Kodak wins lawsuit again Sun

[bastula]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
NOOOO

my grandpa has allot of sun microwave (i cant get it thru his head that it is MICROSYSTEMS) stock

hahaha - that's awesome!

This is absurd though. I wonder what the actual infringement was...

 

[Staples]

Is Kodak ever going to learn why people by Fugi Film instead of theirs? Maybe they prices are too high.

 

[notfred]

Software patents are bullsh!t, I'm so sick of this crap.

 

[Wahsapa]

http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=23117

 

[stonecold3169]

Originally posted by: notfred
Software patents are bullsh!t, I'm so sick of this crap.

Agreed... I seriously wonder how qualified the people deciding these rulings are in such a matter. I mean, really, that is such a vague wording as to what is actually going on... how long before somebody sues saying that accessing a memory location is patented because the idea of "accessing information from multiple sources" was patented?


Don't get me wrong, some stuff SHOULD be patented. For complex operations, I have no issues with an algorithm being patent, for a specifica and clear application... but all of these software patent rulings have been so vague and ambigious that it almost seems like they can be extended to anything

 

[TitanDiddly]

I work at the photo lab in CVS. The other day, over 6 hours, we got one roll of film and six digital orders. Hmm.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: stonecold3169

Originally posted by: notfred
Software patents are bullsh!t, I'm so sick of this crap.

Agreed... I seriously wonder how qualified the people deciding these rulings are in such a matter. I mean, really, that is such a vague wording as to what is actually going on... how long before somebody sues saying that accessing a memory location is patented because the idea of "accessing information from multiple sources" was patented?


Don't get me wrong, some stuff SHOULD be patented. For complex operations, I have no issues with an algorithm being patent, for a specifica and clear application... but all of these software patent rulings have been so vague and ambigious that it almost seems like they can be extended to anything

So they patented OOP ? WTFBBQ??

 

[kamper]

That article didn't explain at all what the violation was (in any reasonable detail). Anyone got better links?

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: kamper
That article didn't explain at all what the violation was (in any reasonable detail). Anyone got better links?

I did a little digging last night and actually found the patent. Unfortunately, I lost the link.

It describes, in frighteningly un-detailed vagueness, object oriented programming.

Edit: Here we are

Patent 1
Patent 2
Patent 3

 

[Yax]

Originally posted by: kamper
That article didn't explain at all what the violation was (in any reasonable detail). Anyone got better links?

Yes, without the details we don't know what the actual lawsuit was over. Dam media! Sputid reporter doesn't even know what he's reporting I bet. Anyway, if infact SUN lost the suit because of Java, then this would apply to any and all OOP languages since they evolved from the same based concepts.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Originally posted by: kamper
That article didn't explain at all what the violation was (in any reasonable detail). Anyone got better links?

That's because there is no reasonable detail. Software patents are the devil. Stupid judges wouldn't allow software patents. Then after insistant assault they just let the floodgates open and since they still didn't know anything about it allow any software patent.

I especially love the patent for computer card games, and the patent for tabbed interfaces (how many big corporations are infringing that one :Q )

 

[Pepsi90919]

it doesn't say they're GOING to pay 1 billion dollars, they haven't even determined that yet.

The Silicon Valley giant on Friday said it would "put on a vigorous defense" in the next phase of the trial, in which the jury will hear testimony to help it determine how much Kodak should be paid. That phase begins sometime next week.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
Kodak really needs money now that they can't sell film anymore, don't they.

huh? Why can't they sell film?

arnt they the biggest film maker?

I think his point was that everything is going digital.

I think the photopgraphy companies should develop a new digital film (as opposed to memory cards). The film would cost as much as ordinary film, but hold a lot more data, at an extremely high resolution in a good quality image format (like tiff, perhaps broken into CMYK layers).

 

[SuperTool]

Unfrikkenbelievable. Most of Sun profits from 1998 to 2001 were from Solaris based servers, not from Java.
To say that one software patent entitles you to half of company's profits is just absurd.

 

[Linux23]

TOORALOO:Q

 

[abellamy]

Heard they were dropping making films and have already stopped making film cameras - so guess they need to get their money from somewhere.

But that patent seems very general!!

 

[Psycho18]

Wow!

 

[Garuda]

The lawsuit seems bogus. But I'm always happy to see the pirates of Silicon Valley get whats coming to them. :thumbsup:

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: abellamy
Heard they were dropping making films and have already stopped making film cameras - so guess they need to get their money from somewhere.

But that patent seems very general!!

They can still sell photo paper.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: abellamy
Heard they were dropping making films and have already stopped making film cameras - so guess they need to get their money from somewhere.

But that patent seems very general!!

They can still sell photo paper.

Do they make more legal paper than photo paper now?

 

[FreshPrince]

maybe now we'll have kodak vm?

 

[tooltime]

i think kodak invented the silver emulsion for film...they gotta know what their doing...

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: tooltime
i think kodak invented the silver emulsion for film...they gotta know what their doing...

Ah, so that's why all the nature photography pros love E100VS (or whatever it's called) and eschew Velvia because it sucks so badly. I'm not up on the portrait photography field, so I don't know who's negative films are more popular, but the last I heard, Fuji was ahead in the transparency aka slide film department.

Well, there's only one roll of Kodachrome sitting there amidst a forest of green film boxes in my fridge, and I don't think any more yellow boxes will be added any time soon.

 

[Gibson486]

Dam....Sun really needs to redo it's whole business plan though. Right now it stinks and their performance in the market shows it.

That said though, I am kind of pissed b/c i wanted to do my next coop there. I even had all my contacts to get in

 

[amoeba]

Gibson, where do you live ?

I might be able to help out depending on the type of position you are looking for.