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KidNiki1

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Oct 15, 2010
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ive been following the invisible children movement for years.

now everyone thinks they know everything.


dumb people

so, you think that getting people aware of an issue, no matter if they came to the party later than you, makes them dumb? isn't the point of the video, and the invisible children movement, to make people aware? if you have been supporting them for years, i would think you would be happy for all the attention that it is now getting, not condescendingly self-righteous about how you have been following them for years...



it's a great cause, something that completely deserves the attention it is getting, and it needs more. don't begrudge people like the OP (and me), who are just now hearing of it and want to spread the word and support the cause.
 

Crono

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The biggest problem humanitarian organizations face is that half the time you need the sword to precede you. It's hard to help anyone when warlords, murderers, and dictators rule in the absence of a strong and relatively non-corrupt government.

Otherwise you need enough of the locals (in addition to foreigners like us) to be outraged to turn the tide against people like Joseph Kony.
The LRA is a plague to that entire region. Last I checked, we (the United States) have only 100 soldiers there, but only in a non-combat role. That might change if this sparks enough outrage around the nation and in Washington.

And everyone joking or complaining about people being late to the party, or not caring as much, needs to shut the hell up. Even casual awareness of this issue could mobilize more forces in the U.S. and internationally to enter Uganda and the Sudan - perhaps enough to severely hinder or dismantle the LRA.
 
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mnewsham

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Looking more into this issue im not really sure what the point is, Kony has left Uganda and is no longer in that part of africa, as such the Ugandan military (who we should be "funding") has no way to search for him (they have no jurisdiction outside of Uganda). So why then are we funding the military that isn't even going to be searching for Kony? How does this work?

Also reports show that only 1/4 of all the money donated to IC goes to Uganda. The man who made that video for instance makes $90k a year from IC. that seems like a fair chunk of change for a non-profit organization to be paying out.

anyway don't just believe the video look some of this up for yourself and make a more informed opinion on the issue.
 

TridenT

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The biggest problem humanitarian organizations face is that half the time you need the sword to precede you. It's hard to help anyone when warlords, murderers, and dictators rule in the absence of a strong and relatively non-corrupt government.

Otherwise you need enough of the locals (in addition to foreigners like us) to be outraged to turn the tide against people like Joseph Kony.
The LRA is a plague to that entire region. Last I checked, we (the United States) have only 100 soldiers there, but only in a non-combat role. That might change if this sparks enough outrage around the nation and in Washington.

And everyone joking or complaining about people being late to the party, or not caring as much, needs to shut the hell up. Even casual awareness of this issue could mobilize more forces in the U.S. and internationally to enter Uganda and the Sudan - perhaps enough to severely hinder or dismantle the LRA.

Because the USA needs to spread itself thinner during an economic meltdown that has been happening over the past 4 years... right? Along with all the other shit that we're already in...
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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Bought a kit, expensive shipping to UK, but this has brought something important to my attention, so I'd rather spend the money on this than a night out.
 

rh71

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Aug 28, 2001
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over 30k kids... kinda crazy. What is he actually holding over them?
 

HAL9000

Lifer
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ive been following the invisible children movement for years.

now everyone thinks they know everything.


dumb people

I love people like this "No I was listening to them ages ago, ugh they are so main stream now."
 

Crono

Lifer
Aug 8, 2001
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Sad!

Where/how LRA get provisions & weapons?

Sudanese government.

EDIT: supposedly. No one knows exactly what other sources they have, but weapons change hands and flow across the borders of neighboring nations.
 
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Baked

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Dec 28, 2004
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I think I might go to the one in LA with a bunch of friends.

over 30k kids... kinda crazy. What is he actually holding over them?

After making them kill their own parents? Their life?
 
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Crono

Lifer
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Agree with everything there.

This is a major point:
The United States is already plenty involved in helping rout Kony and his band of psycho sycophants. Kony is on the run, having been pushed out of Uganda, and it’s likely he will soon be caught, if he isn’t already dead. But killing Kony won’t fix anything, just as killing Osama bin Laden didn’t end terrorism. The LRA might collapse, but, as Foreign Affairs points out, it is “a relatively small player in all of this — as much a symptom as a cause of the endemic violence.”
I wouldn't say the LRA is a "small player", but it is no doubt one among many of the problems with the entire region.
 

BillGates

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Nov 30, 2001
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I asked Ron Paul if I should give a fuck about this and he said no. Good answer.
 
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Did I follow this prior to the video? No. Was it something I knew about? Not really. Sure I knew there were atrocities in Africa, but didn't really know what I could do as most aid groups are very bogged down in the administrative aspect of things.

So, am I joining a bandwagon in support of this? Who gives a fuck. If it helps bring one person that should rot in hell to justice, then it really doesn't matter.
 

zokudu

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I didn't watch the video but I saw people mentioned Invisible Children. I own 4 shirts my school used to raise money for that organization. Do I win a medal for caring before it was cool?
 

akshatp

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Do not donate money to this shady charity. They come up with a new "Kony" campagin every year to line their own pockets. Kony has left that region of Uganda three years ago. Do some research before throwing your weight behind a cause just because you watched a 30 minute video that toyed with your emotions about an issue you had ZERO prior knowledge about.

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