Koolance Getting PWNED by HWLabs

aigomorla

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Well koolance just pissed off HWLabs. Their the makers of BlackICE series radiators:

This is HWLabs response to them:

http://www.hwlabs.com/


Nice going koolance, you just got pwned.
 

aigomorla

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i laughed so hard when i read this.

Dude, false marketing is one thing. But trying to stab a competitor with false info.

Well i guess thats corporate world to you.


another company to stay away from:

IE.. Monsoon VIGOR.

Now do you see, the only people that make reference to it in comparision to water, are owners, who dont know what the true potental of water is.

If that company made claims against water, it would get absolutely crushed.



u guys can listen to my advice on TEC and h2o cooling all you want. But stuff like this only proves i was correct the first time
 

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"Copper is a more noble metal than aluminum. In fact oxidation on copper is not as dangerous as a pinhole cavity of oxides in aluminum as oxidation on a copper surface protects the material beneath it from further oxidation."

Yes, this is true. Fishing boat decks take advantage of this principle. Koolance always sucked in my mind. Not once did I see a killer-app product.
 

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Koolance got destroyed. That was an excellent letter. Koolance definitely failed chemistry...
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: tylerdustin2008
They only made one thing that really looked ok to me.

And this is it....

But its to expensive, and a PA.120.3 will beat its ass.

that thing is expensive because it uses 5 PUMPS

Originally posted by: Howard
I wonder what a pinhole cavity is.

Howard, this is when your alu gets eaten by the copper. This later on forms a little hole, which will leak. In essense its like a tooth cavity. Corrosion will eat the alu and make a cavity. This is also why i tell everyone to say away from ALU, if your using copper.

Or if your using alu, stay away from copper. IE zalman. My cousin had a pin hole cavity in his reserator. Wasnt a good sight.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: tylerdustin2008
They only made one thing that really looked ok to me.

And this is it....

But its to expensive, and a PA.120.3 will beat its ass.

that thing is expensive because it uses 5 PUMPS

Originally posted by: Howard
I wonder what a pinhole cavity is.

Howard, this is when your alu gets eaten by the copper. This later on forms a little hole, which will leak. In essense its like a tooth cavity. Corrosion will eat the alu and make a cavity. This is also why i tell everyone to say away from ALU, if your using copper.

Or if your using alu, stay away from copper. IE zalman. My cousin had a pin hole cavity in his reserator. Wasnt a good sight.
Interesting that only a pinhole is formed. I won't worry about it, since if I ever decide to water cool (not likely) I'll have my trusty galvanic series with me. Did I ever mention sacrificial zinc anodes? I think I did.
 

aigomorla

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lol... yes and because of you, i gave alu tops one last chance.

My GTX is alu top. However the inside of the top is zinc plated colbalt. Military grade.

Well, i'll let you guys know if and when my top gets eatten like the old MCW 6000 series.

 

Howard

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I'm not sure a zinc plating would be enough. Take it apart once in a while to check.
 

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Originally posted by: Howard
Interesting that only a pinhole is formed.

It will usually corrode at a defect (or a discontinuity in the passive film) so that's why it's usually just a pinhole. Leave it long enough though and it will get bigger.

 

Howard

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Originally posted by: thilan29
Originally posted by: Howard
Interesting that only a pinhole is formed.

It will usually corrode at a defect (or a discontinuity in the passive film) so that's why it's usually just a pinhole. Leave it long enough though and it will get bigger.
Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
 

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Funny you mentioned galvanic corrosion............well, funny in that I just replaced the sacrifical anode on my outboard motor. While it's (the motor) mostly used in fresh water and galvanic corrosion isn't a real problem, we do take it out to salt marshes and estuaries a few times each spring and summer.

Anyway, just a stray random thought..........and I've always wondered why mixed metal cooling loops don't utilize a sacrifical anode in-line somewhere. Guess there would be the problem of where the zinc is going to.............
 

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Originally posted by: herbiehancock
Funny you mentioned galvanic corrosion............well, funny in that I just replaced the sacrifical anode on my outboard motor. While it's (the motor) mostly used in fresh water and galvanic corrosion isn't a real problem, we do take it out to salt marshes and estuaries a few times each spring and summer.

Anyway, just a stray random thought..........and I've always wondered why mixed metal cooling loops don't utilize a sacrifical anode in-line somewhere. Guess there would be the problem of where the zinc is going to.............

because if done right, you wouldnt require one. A proper watercooling setup has no alu in it at all. The only other metal that would be included, is most likely brass, and the chrome plated barbs.

Also people who do mix metal and would require a sacrafical anode, are complete noobs. And i highly doubt they would even know what a sacrafical anode is.
 

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Originally posted by: Howard
Freedom of choice is always a good thing.

not if your choices are very very limited. :X
 
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