Originally PMed to Creig by: RIGorous1
I expressed my opinion and you have yours, but when you guys start taking hits on me and publicly try to humiliate me then the gauntlet is off.
fu<k you you sack of sh!t...
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Listen Junior, when 5 or 6 people tell you you're wrong about something, don't you think maybe you take a step back and double-check your facts?
Is there really a need/benefit for this case if I'm not OCing?
RIGorous1 answer => NO.
WRONG With Intel?s new Prescott core consuming over 100 watts WITHOUT overclocking I?d say that there could be a definite
need for water cooling, especially in warmer environments.
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benefit that I already mentioned is the lower noise level. Water cooling can use much slower fans than air cooling due to the thermal carrying capacity of water. Air just can?t move that kind of heat without fans that are spinning at high RPMS which is very NOISY. And if your computer is in or near your bedroom this is something you or your significant other definitely don?t want.
One thing that watercooling people will tell you right away is the Friggin' hassle the whole damn thing is.
WRONG There is no more ?hassle? than any other part of building/upgrading your own system. If you use distilled water with an algae preventative like the manufacturer suggests then you might only need to change the fluid once a year, maybe even longer than that. And considering that computer enthusiasts generally go through components faster than an open bag of Doritos then it?s no extra trouble at all.
You should clean the water every month or so (think for a second how you are going to get the water out
WRONG Everything about this statement is just plain wrong. According to Koolance:
Q: What type of maintenance does the system require?
A: Very little. The reservoir level should be checked every 6 months, and refilled if necessary. We also recommend replacing the liquid in your system every 12 months. Additional Koolance liquid coolant can be purchased inexpensively from your local Koolance dealer.
Q: How do you avoid biological growth?
A: The liquid coolant included with each Koolance case includes a small amount of additional chemicals to address biological growth and corrosion. It is important to add only Koolance-approved coolant in filling your system. Regular tap water, bottled drinking water, or "purified" water may eventually cause organic growth or corrosion, which is bad for temperatures and can be messy to clean up.
installation is often quite difficult (as the blocks often need screws to your motherboard and often crush the core), and upgrades are even more horrendous (take out everything in the way, often times that is everything).
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG Crushed the core?!? What were you using to put the waterblock on with, a set of Vice Grips? The Koolance CPU waterblocks are actually designed to be
CRUSH-PROOF. They have a knob on the top that you turn to tighten the clamp. When it reaches a preset amount of pressure the knob makes a loud 'CLICK' and releases a small amount of the tension. So you could sit there and spin the knob all day long and never crush a thing.
For example, I upgraded my cpu, so guess what I had to take the block off, but what is the block hooked up to? The back of the motherboard. Can I reach the back of the motherboard? No because the motherboard is mounted vertically with the case. But what is blocking the motherboard from removal? The video card, pci cards, hard drive, cdrom, and a few fans. Holy Carp! A simple cpu upgrade took 4 hours and the removal and replacement of nearly every component.
WRONG Again, the Koolance CPU waterblock goes on simply and quickly. In fact it's easier to install than a normal heatsink/fan combo because it's so small. It does NOT attach to the back of the motherboard, it attaches to the three lugs on each side of the socket. So to replace a CPU you simply unscrew the tension knob on the waterblock, pull off the bracket and waterblock, replace the CPU, replace the waterblock/bracket, tighted the previously mentioned tension knob and you're done. Total time, less than 5 (five!) minutes. Can't imagine what you were doing for 4 hours. You can go
here to see a flash animation of a waterblock installation. Doesn't get much easier than that.
Unless you are a hardcore overclocker who loves to take his/her computer apart constantly, then buy this. Otherwise stick to a good HSF like the Zalman's.
WRONG I think I covered this statement pretty thoroughly already.
Evaporation negligible? Talk to some real overclockers who run 2.4c's @ 3.4+ Ghz or 1700+ @ 2.1+ Ghz and ask then if evaporation is negligible. Evaporation is a friggin' function of water temps you dip sh!t, so don't make stupid comments tearing me down if can't grasp that concept.
WRONG Closed loop = sealed to contact with outside air. Unless water molecules can magically pass through rubber, copper or plastic then yes, evaporation
IS negligible! I would even say non-existent!
You don't have any problems with bubbles? Just because you don't have problems it doesn't mean that others won't. Let me ask how big your resevoir is and how strong is your pump? Because often with strong pumps like my eheim 1250 the pump creates bubbles due to the water turbulance. Either you have a large radiator, a cheap pump, or your not even talking about the koolance system. look look at that resevoir/pump system and tell me you don't see potential for turbulance problems.
WRONG - The Koolance pump/reservoir combination has ZERO problems with bubbles since the pumps are totally submerged within the reservoir. It pulls water into the reservoir and pushes it back out. Any errant air bubble that wasn't purged when the system was initially set up would simply get sucked into the reservoir where it would rise to the surface and stay there.
It might be better for you to shut your mouth and open your ears for a change.
Oh, one last quote before I'm done.
I expressed my opinion and you have yours, but when you guys start taking hits on me and publicly try to humiliate me then the gauntlet is off.
I don't have to try and publicly humiliate you, you've done a pretty good job of doing this to yourself already.