Koreans suing over skating disputes (now w/clips)

[LH]

Kim was DQ'ed, Ohno didnt steal anything, he just made sure the judge noticed the cross tracked as no instant replay is used in short track. For the final time, cross tracking is against the rules per the ISU. Kim cross tracked. If he had not Ohno would have won the gold, and Kim the silver, but he knowingly or unknowingly cross tracked, which again is against the rules of the game.

 

[Capn]

"i am sure you meant Ohno who disgrace to the olympics for being a Medal thief? that's not too representing olympics is it? "

How'd he steal a medal? A ref made the call, not him.

I'm disgusted by any effort to demonize Ohno, he has been gracious in both his races. He didn't decide to fall in the first race, and didn't decide to get cutoff in the second.

The quote by the italian doesn't make much sense at all, this is a sport. Maybe that guy has taken too many falls on the ice with out his helmet on.

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

is the speed of light constant?

 

[hollowman]

Globe admits that Kim was the winner, except you Americans

 

[ub4me]

But Ohno made a gesture as if he was impeded (basketball player! huh?). Based on that gesture I think that is why the referee made his judgement. So Ohno is responsible for this.

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

how about Ohno and Kim have a fistfight and the winner gets the gold
like the good old days

 

[Nefrodite]

ok i also found the first race with the fall and ohnos reaction.

 

[LH]

Globe? Who and what are they? If you are refering to The Globe, thats a tabloid...

As for Ohno making a gesture, he stood up and put his hands up, never knew that was illegal. In fact it would have saved him from a bad collision if he hit Kim, which he would have if he didnt stand up. Kim cross tracked, the judge saw it, get over it.

 

[EdipisReks]

the bronze medalist in the 1500 supported the fact that kim cross tracked, and an austrailian ref called it. what you are calling "the globe" is in fact a bunch of crybabies. it's the same attitude the russians have: "we should win automatically just becuase of who we are, and if we don't it is because the americans are out to get us". funny how the americans, who are demonized constantly, are the only ones to take defeat graciously. also funny how the same people that whine and complain about america are always real happy to have american help during a crisis.

--jacob

 

[LH]

Only the Italian and Kim didnt like the call(out of the skaters on the ice).

 

[Nefrodite]

Ohno had his hand down on the ice to balance...then his hand hit the block, causing it to fly backwards.....and hitting the Korean guy.

Ohno brings his had back down to balance....but then everyone falls.

So what else do you got?

i encoded the slow mo replay of that race too korean was going down b4 he contacted the block

 

[ub4me]

I don't think this link is helpful for YOU.
But it will explain why Koreans believe the Aussie referee was biased in favor of American skaters.
There were four incidents, and there was always the Aussie referee.
Ohno knew that he had home-ground advantage AND the Aussie referee who evantually gave a call for him. So he could play like that.

At least you should know that Kim is the top short track skater, so he doesn't need any dirty play to win unlike Li Jiajun and Ohno.

Link

KIM

 

[ub4me]

The Korean, Ahn, was not going down until Ohno's left hand blocked him.
See it.

Link

 

[Nefrodite]

well in a little bit you'll get to see for yourself, joohang was good enough to host the files now the wait for my slow upload

 

[heedory]

good link.. ub4me..

there are too many things that prove american guys foul..
I can't understand why americans do not admit it..
if you want I'll show you other evidence..please tell me..

and please show me the one picture of korean guys foul
not dropping a flag..
make a point....Man plz...

and in 1000m, ohno and Li fought!! each other!!
that was the igniton of chain reaction.
he must have beed DQ!!
that's because ohno can't compain

ohno and Li are axis of foul..
NOT a Good sports player..

 

[Nefrodite]

up so far


Shorttrack/1500M Kim pissed divx.avi

1500M Race replay alt angle divx.avi

1500M Kim kicking blocks divx.avi






the longer race ones still uploading..

 

[SilentRunning]

At least you should know that Kim is the top short track skater, so he doesn't need any dirty play to win unlike Li Jiajun and Ohno.

Kim has remained one of the best skaters in the world in the years after the Nagano Games. He has not finished worse than eighth in the overall standings at the World Championships since his first worlds in 1996. He did not compete at the 2001 World Championships in Jeonju, South Korea, however. Kim won the 2000 overall World Cup title but struggled somewhat during the 2000-2001 World Cup season, dropping to 10th in the overall standings. linked

During a breakout 2000-2001 season, Ohno captured the World Cup title at every distance (500, 1000, 1500 meters) en route to winning the overall World Cup title. He was the first American to win a World Cup title at any distance. During the remarkable season, he claimed 12 victories -- three in the 500, one in the 1000, four in the 1500 and four in the 3000 (a non-Olympic event) -- on the World Cup circuit. Ohno's performance at the 2001 World Championships in Jeonju, South Korea, was disappointing, however. He won just one medal in an Olympic event (silver in the 1000). But he did win the gold medal in the 3000 and helped the U.S. win its first relay world title. The American team of Ohno, Tom O'Hare, Daniel Weinstein and Ron Biondo upset favorites China and Canada in the final. Ohno was second in the overall rankings at the 2001 worlds, the best finish of his career. Prior to 2001, Ohno had won just one medal at the World Championships, a 500 silver in 1999 in Sofia, Bulgaria. He finished fourth overall that year. Ohno captured the junior world title in 1999.
linked

 

[Nefrodite]

Shorttrack/1500M Last 5 laps of race divx.avi

 

[hollowman]

SilentRunning

blah blah blah, i think you guys are posting worthless stuff now.. i do not care whether Kim or Ohno is better player. i just hate the fact that Ohno(also referees) did play foul and stole the medal.
and not just that, you American's wont admit that it did happen.
geez, what a bunch of losers.

 

[LH]

Are you blind? Replay after replay, angle after angle, shows Kim cross tracking, cross tracking is illegal in short track per ISU rules. Kim got caught, and got DQ'ed.

 

[Nefrodite]

lol even video isn't good enough for some people

just one more left uploading

At least you should know that Kim is the top short track skater, so he doesn't need any dirty play to win unlike Li Jiajun and Ohno.

Link

KIM

oh come on, that sites bogus. look at the video, it shows some perspective where his hand really was and when the korean started to fall.

 

[joohang]

<< Are you blind? Replay after replay, angle after angle, shows Kim cross tracking, cross tracking is illegal in short track per ISU rules. Kim got caught, and got DQ'ed. >>


That "another angle" clip shows very well that Kim did cross-track. Ohno had a pretty good chance to pass Kim but Kim did block Ohno. Take a look at Kim's leg at the last quarter of the lap, for example.

And that so-called "Hollywood action" by Ohno also seems to me like a reaction (at least partly) to tell the referees that he didn't touch Kim. Isn't that a pretty standard gesture of saying "I didn't touch him"?

 

[Iwentsouth]

Anyone on this forum by now should relize..when all else fails blame America.

 

[Dacalo]

<< I don't think this link is helpful for YOU.
But it will explain why Koreans believe the Aussie referee was biased in favor of American skaters.
There were four incidents, and there was always the Aussie referee.
Ohno knew that he had home-ground advantage AND the Aussie referee who evantually gave a call for him. So he could play like that.

At least you should know that Kim is the top short track skater, so he doesn't need any dirty play to win unlike Li Jiajun and Ohno.

Link

KIM >>



I have looked forward to this winter olympics, and I must say that I have been very disappointed. After reviewing some clips and the site mentioned above, it seems that World Olympics have turned to American Olympics. Yes, I am an American as well. All I want to see is a clean match without any favors and biased crap.

Do you think that if this event occured in South Korea, the judges would have made this call? They dare would not!! Come on, this isnt some wrestling or crap like that. This is the olympics, where there has been a long tradition and athletes dedicate and sacrifice their lives to train for these events. Aweful, just aweful.:disgust:

 

[Nefrodite]

1000M Korean takes ohno down divx.avi