Koreans suing over skating disputes (now w/clips)

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LH

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He was already falling when Ohno's hand brushed him. And if you didnt know, short trackers put there hands down around turns, but all that video shows is the 16 yead old korean falling before Ohnos hand touched him
 

Croton

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Ohno had his hand down on the ice to balance...then his hand hit the block, causing it to fly backwards.....and hitting the Korean guy.

Ohno brings his had back down to balance....but then everyone falls.

So what else do you got?
 

Red Dawn

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It looks as if the Chinese skater hit the back of the D S's Skate when he wiped out which caused it to come into contact with Ohno's hand. It also looks as if the D S was losing it about right then.
 

Nefrodite

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<< shame on you.. america..
you're country can carpet bomb on every place in the earth,
but can't perform a game in harmony..

you are the most powerful in the earth.
but maybe the most unwanted country...
>>


its amazing how arrogant some people are. when the canadians were robbed did americans yell and scream death to france and russia? no. just that the judges was dirty. here its even worse, they don't have anyone to blame but themselves and still attack an entire country.

on bnet its all death to america, etc, its disturbing to say the least.

maybe i'll search my videos and encode kim throwing down the flag later if someone wants to host

me<- dial up, can't host

 

LH

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About the flag dropping/throwing. He dropped it picked it up, and tossed back down. Im sure someone also has footage of him throwing a temper tantrum and kicking the blocks.
 

Croton

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that would be cool if someone could encode the flag throwing....(or dropping, if you believe that).....then we could see for ourselves.
 

heedory

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OH.. Man...
I don't care if you burn or tear you're Stars and strite

I don't think a gold medal is such a valuable thing

what makes me upset is some american's attitude..

they consider 'gold medal pickpocker' ohno to be a hero..
that's ok.. I don't care..

but someone blame Kim as crying baby, sportsmanship-less blah.. blah..

I can't bear it..
 

KaBudokan

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<< I don't think a gold medal is such a valuable thing

what makes me upset is some american's attitude..

but someone blame Kim as crying baby, sportsmanship-less blah.. blah..

I can't bear it..
>>



Yet you quote an Italian skater who says another athlete should be shot as an example of good sportsmanship?

Get a freaking clue. :disgust:
 

EmperorRob

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<< The problem was not that Ohno and Sung almost touched, but that Sung switched lanes while Ohno was accelerating behind him. >>

People do that to me when I'm driving on I-40. Can I sue somebody for that?
 

Nefrodite

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OH.. Man...
I don't care if you burn or tear you're Stars and strite

I don't think a gold medal is such a valuable thing

what makes me upset is some american's attitude..

they consider 'gold medal pickpocker' ohno to be a hero..
that's ok.. I don't care..

but someone blame Kim as crying baby, sportsmanship-less blah.. blah..

I can't bear it..


um apparently you have no idea what americans think. the thing that makes ohno look heroic is his behavior in comparison to kims. kim pouts and struts around after throwing down the flag when he was dq'd, ohno was a sportsman and said thats the way the game is when he lost the gold.

anyone have webspace? i encoded the race
 

hollowman

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<< the thing that makes ohno look heroic is his behavior in comparison to kims >>



obviously, ohno didn't go through the same bullsh!ts Kim went through this year.
 

LH

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Its not Ohno's fault Sung fell in his other races(the 5000m relay and 1000m semi's, both his fault). Ohno lost races in the final heats of several world cup races due to DQ's.
 

hollowman

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<< Ohno lost races in the final heats of several world cup races due to DQ's. >>



so? your point is?
just because an American has lost many times due to DQ, does not mean others to DQ for nothing.
i am really not upset because of a medal. i just hate the way you guys are all acting to protect Ohno which you guys know that he doesn't deserve a medal or heroic calls.
 

Nefrodite

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mundania i need about 13mb atleast. thats for a total of 4 files, reactions from kim(kicking stuff etc) and replay, and race

maybe more if i find the first race where ohno got robbed of gold..

private message me i guess

or icq 2080880
 

LH

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My point was, Ohno has been DQ'ed from winning for the exact same thing, cross tracking. Kim clearly cross tracked, there is no disputing that. Can't change the rules after the fact. Kim broke the rules, which results in DQ, has happened to many skaters, just not at the olympics. The Koreans are mad because Kim will be the 2001-2002 World Cup champion when the seasons over and he had a bad olympics, with falls in the 5000m relay semi's, and a fall in the 1000m semi's. He then got DQ'ed for cross tracking. DQ's are a fact of life in speed skating. Ive been watching short track speed skating ever since they were included in the Olympics(1992), the only event I really watch. The fact of the matter is, short track always comes down to controvesy, no ones ever happy, because anyone in the final race can win it with a bit of luck. The reason most of the world likes Ohno is because HE IS A GOOD SPORT. Kim on the other hand has complained through out the short track events, he also threw his flag down twice, skated over it and kicked the blocks, Kim is a bad sport, plain and simple. Ohno has gone through just as much as he, and has done it without throwing hissy fits on the ice in front of a packed crowd and millions watching around the world. Im sure the Korean media doesn't even mention him kicking the blocks or throwing the flag down.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Answer this you Ohno Haters. Who was whining more after they got screwed, Ohno or Kim? Did Ohno cry out after he was DEFINITELY and INTENTIONALLY brought down by Kim causing him a Gold medal....... nope. Ohno accepted it gracefully like a true champion does, and you can genuinely see he loves his sport and just loves racing. Kim on the other hand is a total and utter disgrace to the olympics. He represents everything that is wrong with the olympics.
 

LH

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yeah rule 292, theres also that rule that says cross tracking is prohibited, which falls under the overtaken acting improperly in rule 292. IMHO its clear he cross tracked. He was clearly in the outer lane and the switched to the tight lane right as Ohno was making his move. I still say the Italian is solely pissed off because he would have been the winner if Ohno hadn't of stood up to avoid hitting Kim. Not sure if the 500m will be clean but I know the US relay team will blow away everyone else in the 5000m relay, just like that did in the semi's.
 

hollowman

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<< Kim on the other hand is a total and utter disgrace to the olympics. He represents everything that is wrong with the olympics >>



i am sure you meant Ohno who disgrace to the olympics for being a Medal thief? that's not too representing olympics is it?
 

Capn

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I read that Steve Mason article, guy sounds like a complete idiot. Sports writers aren't necessarily selected because of their intelligence.

NBC article was decent, he was just stating he wants to see a clean race, no contraversy.
 
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