Larry does not lie. 3 of my RDNA2 cards were purchased from him. I gave one to a friend to upgrade a 1650 Super, and still have 2. If you knew his history, you'd know some of us kid him about being Larry's PC warehouse, for good reason. Given the amount of PC parts I've bought or traded with him, there is zero doubt of his veracity on such matters.Still waiting for your proof.
proof of you owning the cards
a ton of data proving that you used the drivers and that they changed anything with the behavior of your cards.
And then I don’t see the reasoning why a miner should upgrade all his drivers to a new one. Pretty unnecessary, and a possible risk (no not magical destruction of cards via a harmless driver that works like all the others).
Anyway, you dodged my inquiry for proof, so there’s that.
Most people on this forum understand that I'm honest. You, obviously, do not.Still waiting for your proof.
proof of you owning the cards
a ton of data proving that you used the drivers and that they changed anything with the behavior of your cards.
And then I don’t see the reasoning why a miner should upgrade all his drivers to a new one. Pretty unnecessary, and a possible risk (no not magical destruction of cards via a harmless driver that works like all the others).
Anyway, you dodged my inquiry for proof, so there’s that.
I agree. This is why I didn't bring it up, initially. Mining is semi-fraught with hardware peril. Most of the time, it's pretty hard to actually kill a card. But over-drawing PCI-E slot power can do it, and burn things up. (My supposition.)Larry, you definitely need to troubleshoot the failures/ do your due diligence before trying the Scooby Doo villain unmasking. Because right now it is a bad look that is already drawing negative feedback.
Still waiting for your proof.
proof of you owning the cards
Can flaky drivers spike the PSU and kill it?
I agree with this assessment, BTW. My RX 6600 (RDNA2) cards were made during the pandemic, and relative to all my other mining cards, they have always been flaky as F. My RX 5700 XT cards (2x XFX, 2x Asus) have been rock-solid in comparison (bought during the last few months of 2020, at close to MSRP), which makes it all the weirder that that rig would "die" and not power-on. It has a 1200W Seasonic Platinum ATX PSU that is less than 2-3 years old.Secondly, I've speculated for a while that cards built during the pandemic might end up with higher than normal failure rates due to manufacturers quietly or not so quietly subbing in lower quality low level parts in order to meet production quotas. Caps/mosfets/resistors/whatever that normally would have a MTBF of 1 million hours got subbed with parts that are good for 500K hours. Parts with larger voltage/amperage fluctuation tolerances got subbed with lower quality parts with very narrow tolerances, etc.
Its possible that now after a couple years those chickens are coming home to roost and we may start seeing more and more card failures of the prior gen across the board.
An interesting meta analysis would be seeing how many failed cards per manufactured card were built in 2020 vs 2021 vs 2022. I'd bet a disproportionately large number of the failures are coming from late 2021 models.
Your mining software stops working correctly with your previous drivers, but you go after the drivers as being the problem. Seem legit.Can flaky drivers spike the PSU and kill it?
A driver bug could cause GPUs to spike power, which would put additional load on the PSU. But it seems unlikely that would result in killing it outright. A power cycle should bring stuff back if the PSU went into overload protection due to some transient.
Yet they are buttery smooth, cool and quiet, as gaming cards. Both are in mini-ITX systems on top of it. Seems like there is a common factor in your difficulties I don't have here, what could it be? You should just stick to team green for mining bro, the gods have spoken.I agree with this assessment, BTW. My RX 6600 (RDNA2) cards were made during the pandemic, and relative to all my other mining cards, they have always been flaky as F.
Well, the mining software auto-updated, so there was really no going back to the older version. As well, the newer version of the mining software, demanded updated drivers to work optimally with it, so I updated to the newest ones. As a side effect, in the web control panel, I was now able to monitor the wattage that each rig used. So clearly, there were some additional lower-level driver interactions going on with the software. (After it updated.)Your mining software stops working correctly with your previous drivers, but you go after the drivers as being the problem.
I feel like we are entering r/selfawarewolves territory here. BTW I get aggro when lifting heavy so don't take any of this personally. I am simply treating your posts like anyone's I think help drive a crappy hypothesis with almost zero supporting evidence.Well, the mining software auto-updated, so there was really no going back to the older version. As well, the newer version of the mining software, demanded updated drivers to work optimally with it, so I updated to the newest ones. As a side effect, in the web control panel, I was now able to monitor the wattage that each rig used. So clearly, there were some additional lower-level driver interactions going on with the software.
Never cared, you’re not important to me, buddy.Most people on this forum understand that I'm honest. You, obviously, do not.
I think that the path of least resistance is to add you to my ignore file.
I'm sorry that you don't see the reasoning behind me updating my drivers; I already explained that. Updated mining software needed an updated range of drivers.
You claim that the driver in question is "harmless" - what actual experience and proof do you have to offer in support of that viewpoint? Supposition that AMD can do no wrong?
You want proof that I own the cards? Look up my past mining-related posts on this forum, there's plenty of them.
Really? I was only mining on those for a few months. I think Newegg sold me one of those XFX cards that was re-shrink-wrapped inside of the box. Because two cards were one way, and one was different than the other two.I will note that the XFX you sent me required a good cleaning and new paste and pads. You were upfront about the condition so it's all good. The performance bios on it was nerfed, and my buddy said he had to flash it. Considering how pimp my XFX 6800 is, it fosters questions in my mind concerning the effects of mining on RDNA2 far more than driver versions.
0.45$ per 24 hours? You’re not mining you’re polluting and wasting energy. Like I said, mining is absolutely dead. Some people seem unable to accept it and move onView attachment 74422
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What power rate makes even that tiny profit possible? When I look on whattomine.com, everything is still negative at 10c/KWh.
I don’t think so. Sellling the hardware off is the smartest move then, basically what all (sane) miners already did. He’s only losing money because his old hardware is losing worth every day he’s not selling it0$ / kWh. You can get this if you live in some form of high multi-unit building (e.g. an apartment or condo) and the landlord doesn't seem to care about the power bill, which is Larry's situation I believe.
You'll still probably never pay off the hardware purchase at that daily mining rate, but if he's using older hardware that was already paid for, then it's pure profit for him. Just a tiny bit of profit, but profit nonetheless.
I don’t think so. Sellling the hardware off is the smartest move then, basically what all (sane) miners already did. He’s only losing money because his old hardware is losing worth every day he’s not selling it
If mining returns are negative, is it smarter to simply buy crypto on exchange if you believe it'll rise in value.It just depends on if you think crypto coin values will rise siginificantly again in the future or not. If you really believe they'll bounce back, mining now and waiting for the bounce makes sense (though of course you may be wrong). If you don't believe this or just aren't very confident that this will happen, it makes a lot more sense to sell your hardware as you suggest. Although, even if you believe the crypto market will recover, it still might make more sense to sell the hardware and just purchase the crypto. I guess then it comes down to how much of the mining activity you enjoy as a hobby.
This is just from a personal economics point of view.