KS: Areal, Successor to STALKER *Update 2* Most likely a scam

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Face2Face

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Yeah I don't think 50K is nearly enough to make a PC game these days.

I wish 4A would buy the STALKER licence or get some partnership going with them as this series really deserves another entry. Metro Last Lights' outdoor section were so good and atmospheric and I yearn for what a STALKER game could look like if they made one.

Some of the folks from GSC Gameword did go to work at 4A Games when they shut down. I agree though, combine Metro Last Light's game engine with Stalkers gameplay, and you would have an amazing game. When playing Metro Last Light maxed out with PhysX enabled, there we some scenes that made my jaw drop playing it. It's one the best looking PC games IMO, second to Crysis 3.
 

Face2Face

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Pretty sure this is a scam now...



Ievgeniia is highly skilled in all aspects of communication and public relations. She studied at Brunel university of London under digital games and design theory.

She is an actress. Here is her real name.

Eugene Lakosnik



Her education doesn't match up -

Education
School-studio improvisation "Black Square" (Kiev) In addition: 1) School-studio of the Kyiv State Higher Music School. RM Glier (certificate from 03.06.1999g.) 2) Currency radio broadcasters Astra Sapience (diploma from 16.09.2008.) 3) Course "Discover a photographer», European Design School (Certificate number 000054 from 08.04.2010); 5) classes vocals, Ballroom and Latin and Irish national dances. fluent Ukrainian and Russian languages, English - at Advanced (IELTS 7.5), French, German, Latin - level Beginner.

http://www.acmodasi.ru/a_72149.html



ALSO



Hmmm.. looks familiar...

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-74929321/stock-photo-a-young-man-standing-on-dark-background.html
 
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Dankk

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This is such a blatant, obvious scam that it's not even funny. I don't even feel bad anymore for the the Kickstarter users who are giving money to these guys. If you're so blind that you fail to see just how ridiculously flawed this whole thing is, then maybe you deserve to get robbed. (A fool and his money, etc, etc)

They just whine and play the victim card for being accused of fraud, without providing any actual counter-evidence whatsoever. Show us that pre-alpha code you have, eh? Something?

A red flag should be going up immediately when you see that they're asking for such a tiny amount of cash to develop such an ambitious game on so many different platforms. It doesn't hold any water whatsoever. That's ignoring the dozens of other flaws people have pointed out with this campaign.

$50,000 is enough to hire MAYBE one decent programmer for an entire year. Two or three, if you're living in a poor eastern European country.

These guys aren't from Europe. They're from Las Vegas.
 

Face2Face

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I cancelled my pledge, I suggest everyone else do the same if you pledged on this KS.
 

werepossum

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I wouldn't go as far as to scream "Fraud!" just yet. They say it themselves. Most artists and writers whose art was stolen are in fact members of the team. So they clearly understand that their work is being used and agree to it.

As for $50,000 being modest, the devs clearly state on the Kickstarter page that they already have most funds for the game and were about 50k short.
Sure, a few annoying legalities may have been overlooked in the creation of the kickstarter page, but lets give these people a friggin break. They are programmers, not lawyers!

In the end its all about money. The guy who owns rights to STALKER doesn't want anyone to benefit in any way from his property. Cant blame him, but I wish he would just shut the hell up and let these people make the game.
Hoping it's real, but not contributing. If it's legit and an actual game emerges I'll buy a copy, but even if it's legit this may well end up so meshed in legal wrangling that it never reaches the market.

I pledged, and this what I received in my inbox this morning. We should have a video soon. The fraud stuff going around is just fud..

Project Update #3: New Mini Update:
Posted by West Games

Check out our previous updates:

Massive first Update

Addressing Vostok Games

We're in our second day and already, we have more than 760 backers! Huge thanks to all of our current and future supporters. The video we promised is going to be posted in the next update, which should appear roughly on this Thursday morning/afternoon in the U.S.

As we've mentioned before, a former S.T.A.L.K.E.R. modder and current creator of a similar post apocalyptic Kickstarter project has been flooding our comments with negativity and misinformation, and then using various accounts to promote his game, called Project Seed. This is what we in the industry call guerrilla PR... We are taking appropriate measures to combat this.

We hope that this negativity stops, and we want to be supportive as well as constructive towards our peers and colleagues. Stay tuned for the video update!

EDIT: They are already at 30K
Interesting, thanks.

Some of the folks from GSC Gameword did go to work at 4A Games when they shut down. I agree though, combine Metro Last Light's game engine with Stalkers gameplay, and you would have an amazing game. When playing Metro Last Light maxed out with PhysX enabled, there we some scenes that made my jaw drop playing it. It's one the best looking PC games IMO, second to Crysis 3.
That would rule, although modded S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games can look pretty amazing already.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, I did see a wiki article that identified West as formerly Union. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSC_Game_World

Of course, there is no attribution so the West games folks might well have added that.
 
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Artorias

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Oh look, the project has now been suspended on kick starter.

The goal was actually met but about 25k was raised in two days to meet it, yeah you can guess who pledged to rake in that easy 40k.

You don't need 65K from the public to fill in the funding gap, you get that from a bank or an investor. At minimum they would need be about 1-3M to make a game like that these days, 65K shouldn't even be an issue if they had most of the funding already and certainly wouldn't need public support.
 
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Bateluer

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Given the actions of the 'developers' on this project, I'm glad Kickstarter nuked it. Kinda sad that they took so long, but better late then never.
 
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