KT333, AGP 8x, etc.

wizdum

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When is the new VIA chipset, kt333, coming out? Also, what features will it have? I've heard it will have support for ddr-2, agp 8x and usb 2.0? is this true? also, will an 8x agp card work in my 2x mobo? Thanx.
 

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Don't sure about AGPx8, the BIOSTAR M7VIF has KT333 and USB 2.0, ATA 133, DDR 333, but it didn't mention the AGP port speed.
 

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KT333 will come out indefinitely. Within a couple of months, some motherbard manufacturers already have a board out. It will support PC2700 DDR (currently KT266A supports PC2100 DDR) The motherboards will probably Support USB 2. BUT!!!! That's if they use the NEC USB 2.0 chip on the motherboard. Unlike current motherboards where USB is support by the Southbridge of the chipset. Look for USB 2 integration during the summer. AGP (advanced graphics port) is ALWAYS backwards compatbile (dont no body mention INTEL in this affair and how they F'd up the AGP slot) But if you have a current AGP card (2X, 1X.. whatever) It should work with the new 8X specification, and VICE VERSA a 8X graphics card (ie Geforce 4 Ultra) will work in a 4x and 2X motherboard.
 

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<< It is AGP4x, 8x comes out with the KT333A. >>

Do you think the KT333A will offer Serial ATA(AKA Firewire inside)?
 

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<< Do you think the KT333A will offer Serial ATA(AKA Firewire inside)? >>



LOL... hehehahah... ohh ohh.. wait I have catch my breath.. hehe You actually would think INTEL (who BTW made Serial ATA) is gonna HELP VIA make it compatible with their southbridges? (Remember Intel and VIA's court meetings?) Unfortunately IT will HAPPEN.. But wont be on the KT333 or KT333A (doesnt seem like VIA will jump onboard until Intel says OKAY!!) VIA will probably implement it maybe when the "Thouroghbred" Athlon come out, but I doubt it. VIA might do it when the "HAMMER" cpu's come out. Though AMD has its own Hyper Transport that can be used instead of Serial ATA, but it seems it wont be used.

About the Fire Wire, I dont think southbridges currently support iEEE 1394 (Fire wire) in the chipset configuration like they do of USB. Current Ti (Texas Instruments) and NEC (Dunno what that stands for) Have Fire Wire Chips that can be Put on the motherboard, but not in the southbridge. I actaully think there IC manufacturer's are dong nothing these days.

WTH do we still have PARALLEL ports ( I got a Parallel Printer, BUT there are USB converters) Also I think we should shrink it down to 1 SERIAL PORT! I dont see the need for 2 of 'em. Why cant PC makers take APPLES's LEAD. Apple only has USB, FIREWIRE on the back of their PC's. They know the old technology does not matter anymore. If you still got old peripherals, use an OLD computer, but if we will move forward they have to get rid of the old stuff from motherboards.
 

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ATX has to change for this to happen. I think it will soon, and all you who paid a fortune for your AL cases I'll be laughing at.
 

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<< LOL... hehehahah... ohh ohh.. wait I have catch my breath.. hehe You actually would think INTEL (who BTW made Serial ATA) is gonna HELP VIA make it compatible with their southbridges? (Remember Intel and VIA's court meetings?) Unfortunately IT will HAPPEN.. But wont be on the KT333 or KT333A (doesnt seem like VIA will jump onboard until Intel says OKAY!!) >>

Open mouth, insert foot! Your speculation is the real cause for amusement, I agree you should catch your breath as I believe your brain could use it Intel isn't solely responsible for the serial ATA technology and won't be hording the rights to it either. To quote

<< Who are the members of the Serial ATA Working Group? Can new companies
join?
A7: The Serial ATA promoters group includes APT Technologies Inc, Dell Computer
Corporation, International Business Machines, Intel Corporation, Maxtor Corporation,
Quantum Corporation, and Seagate Technology. Information on joining the working
group is available at www.serialata.org and new members are welcome.
>>


Also

<< What are the licensing requirements and costs of Serial ATA to companies
that want to use the technology?
A14: When the Serial ATA specification is complete, it will be made available at no
charge. The working group expects to complete the specification later this year.
>>


Finally, what I think is that you should research something before Trolling on someone BTW, here's the Link AAO According to the developers of serial ATA those with expensive aluminum cases should be O.K.

<< Will Serial ATA be compatible with today?s PCs?
A9: Serial ATA electronics and connectors will differ from Parallel ATA, however the
technology is software compatible and OS transparent. It is anticipated that there will be
adapters to facilitate forward- and backward-compatibility of hard disks on PC systems
>>

so don't bust a gut just yet EDIT: I almost forgot, take a look at the serial ATA contributers list Here and I believe you'll find VIA Technologies, Inc. on it.
 

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<< VIA might do it when the "HAMMER" cpu's come out. Though AMD has its own Hyper Transport that can be used instead of Serial ATA, but it seems it wont be used. >>


Got room for that other foot?

<< Question:
Is HyperTransport? designed to connect peripherals like removable drives and entertainment devices?

Answer:
No. HyperTransport is used to provide high-performance interconnect between integrated circuits that comprise the system's core. Peripheral device interconnect is provided by existing industry standard busses such as IDE, SCSI, etc.
>>

Link I know I'm busting your chops kinda hard but you came off like an arrogant a$$ :frown: I play nice with everyone and give respect to (almost) everyone and all I ask is not to be undeservedly flamed or trolled on. Peace
 
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