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Lifer
- Jan 25, 2011
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Hey Jared. Come here and read this...That is just the point. He would have to either read the intel or attend the briefings ... and he wont!
Hey Jared. Come here and read this...That is just the point. He would have to either read the intel or attend the briefings ... and he wont!
That is just the point. He would have to either read the intel or attend the briefings ... and he wont!
Hey Jared. Come here and read this...
Oh shit. China Israel Mexico and UAE discussed how to leverage Kushners business dealings to manipulate him. That’s why he wasn’t getting clearance.
Bahahahaha best fucking people.
And this mother f’er was asking for more top secret information than anyone.
Pretend Kushner was Bill or Hillaries son in law. Can anyone imagine the apoplectic response of the right to him not having a security clearance and still working at his job?
More likely that Kushner is either actively corrupt or a huge security risk due to his large debts.
The amount of hate, often harbored by those who can't rightly account for it, is frightening and disheartening. Don't know when facts became optional but these trumpians sure figured out how to exploit it. Sad!Pretend Kushner was Bill or Hillaries son in law. Can anyone imagine the apoplectic response of the right to him not having a security clearance and still working at his job?
If 2016 taught us anything it’s that conservatives have zero tolerance for the disclosure of classified information to unqualified/unauthorized individuals.
Oh from the WaPo article just released Kushner is fucked if it plays out. Explains Mueller teams recent inquiries about him. Also talked to Qatar about investing in his businesses. Counties asked for him specifically as he was inexperienced and easily manipulated.
More likely that Kushner is either actively corrupt or a huge security risk due to his large debts.
Plus Don jr and Eric are getting SS escorts at the taxpayers expense.Well, it's pretty obvious that Trump is running the family business through Kushner. And the beauty of it all is that the Trump/Kushner Clans gets to run their businesses on the taxpayer's dime. Jared going forth to "seek peace in the middle east" is just cover for the business deals the Trumps are generating out there.
Can anyone explain to me why we have interim security clearances greater then a year into the administration?
He did the above four times iirc.If he lied, misled, intentionally left out information, he should have it pulled. Nobody should be above the rules.
He did the above four times iirc.
No other administration has had these problems.
He had to amend his Foreign contacts forms three or four times, he added, iirc 100 contacts with Russians. The last time there was a backlog like this was over 20 years ago.If you say so.
It is not always so cut and dry when filling these types of things out. I got hung up on a few issues and had to have the investigator come and see me again. Its pretty unnerving to be honest. They dig into every part of your life. I don't doubt he has been many places, jet settings all over the world prior to this. Its easy to leave something out, have the wrong date down, and then you look like your hiding something. That's when the dig deeper. If he did do those things, it can be a permanent denial of clearance. I have seen that too. Its all about intent. If he did do things intentionally, he should have it revoked and denied forever. Treat him as you would anyone else.
He had to amend his Foreign contacts forms three or four times, he added, iirc 100 contacts with Russians. The last time there was a backlog like this was over 20 years ago.
I’m somewhat familiar, my mother had top secret clearance when she worked for the government.I had to amend things, not because I was trying to hide anything. But because I either forgot, or put down wrong data. Imagine trying to categorically put down every place you lived, every place outside the USA you went. All family, no matter how extended. In my case, my mother remarried for the 4th time, and I didn't put down my "step brothers and sisters". I have never met them. Never talked to them. I omitted them because I didn't think it was important. Well, it was. Very important. I have not spoken to my father in over 20 years, he is still in Alaska where I grew up. I omitted his information. Another no-no. I literally have had no contact with him in a long time, knew nothing about where he was, or even if still alive. I had to have my mother track down her visa where she immigrated here when she was 6, not an easy thing to do. I went to a lot of countries in the middle east and Africa. I got frilled over those. Also Europe to several countries. They want to know exactly where you stayed, with who if anyone, and for how long. Its not that easy to remember these things. They leave no stone unturned, its not as easy as people may think. The backlog comment is not true. There is one agency that does all this. Investigators can be stretched thin. Mine had a death in the family, delayed it a lot. They interview a lot of people, pull your credit, go over it line by line. They try not to pass it off to anyone else. About 8 years ago we had a lot of people take over 2 years to get their clearance. Not enough investigators, huge hiring influx. We also had one person get it in a month. She has never left the state. Never lived anywhere but one house. Never married. No kids. Extremely simple. There are also computer tests where they try to mind fuck you, asking you the same question 7 different ways. A "cognitive" test where they test math and other aspect. Then a shrink visit. Its not fun, or an easy process at all. And its really stressing. Because you're waiting for months for an answer, and your whole future depends on it. I have had both the DOD and DOE clearance. Now holding and HRP which is even a step above.
What I have stated is not an excuse for him by any means. I don't have doubts he was put ahead of the group to get it done. Maybe not. He has a large family, probably been a lot of places. Amendments are not uncommon, I would say more common than not. So as I said, if he intentionally mislead or lied, it should be denied. I don't care who he is. It's merely a better look at what goes into the process. Its not all that easy, especially for someone like him. There should be zero favoritism, and if he didn't pass the test then oh well. Next up.
I had to amend things, not because I was trying to hide anything. But because I either forgot, or put down wrong data. Imagine trying to categorically put down every place you lived, every place outside the USA you went. All family, no matter how extended. In my case, my mother remarried for the 4th time, and I didn't put down my "step brothers and sisters". I have never met them. Never talked to them. I omitted them because I didn't think it was important. Well, it was. Very important. I have not spoken to my father in over 20 years, he is still in Alaska where I grew up. I omitted his information. Another no-no. I literally have had no contact with him in a long time, knew nothing about where he was, or even if still alive. I had to have my mother track down her visa where she immigrated here when she was 6, not an easy thing to do. I went to a lot of countries in the middle east and Africa. I got frilled over those. Also Europe to several countries. They want to know exactly where you stayed, with who if anyone, and for how long. Its not that easy to remember these things. They leave no stone unturned, its not as easy as people may think. The backlog comment is not true. There is one agency that does all this. Investigators can be stretched thin. Mine had a death in the family, delayed it a lot. They interview a lot of people, pull your credit, go over it line by line. They try not to pass it off to anyone else. About 8 years ago we had a lot of people take over 2 years to get their clearance. Not enough investigators, huge hiring influx. We also had one person get it in a month. She has never left the state. Never lived anywhere but one house. Never married. No kids. Extremely simple. There are also computer tests where they try to mind fuck you, asking you the same question 7 different ways. A "cognitive" test where they test math and other aspect. Then a shrink visit. Its not fun, or an easy process at all. And its really stressing. Because you're waiting for months for an answer, and your whole future depends on it. I have had both the DOD and DOE clearance. Now holding and HRP which is even a step above.
What I have stated is not an excuse for him by any means. I don't have doubts he was put ahead of the group to get it done. Maybe not. He has a large family, probably been a lot of places. Amendments are not uncommon, I would say more common than not. So as I said, if he intentionally mislead or lied, it should be denied. I don't care who he is. It's merely a better look at what goes into the process. Its not all that easy, especially for someone like him. There should be zero favoritism, and if he didn't pass the test then oh well. Next up.