Flynn also there in the room with Kushner.
I'm wondering if they get enough to lay charges if it's going to be all on one day they arrest everyone, or a process over time. With everything out so far, it seems they already have enough to arrest Flynn for making a false statement to the FBI.
I guess there would be concern Trump is a corrupt POS and will pardon everyone. If they a reach a state of multiple arrests and everyone is arrested at once, it will make the damage to him huge if he pardons the lot of them.
Disturbingly from a legal expert on Fake News CNN, there are no laws against someone working with a foreign power to win an election. The only possible way to be doing something illegal is to help hack, revel password or security to a known hacker. Essentially giving the keys to the building to a known criminal. There are no laws against talking to a foreign power about leaks that you did nothing to make happen.
SO
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And it's almost impossible to say where we are in this story, we could be in it's infancy or towards it's tail end, although I think we're closer to it's infancy, and by a wide margin.boys, we are living through the biggest political news story of the 21st century.
So...IF the FBI investigation finds enough on Kuchner to charge him, and the US Attorney decides to actually indict him...and...just for the sake of argument, a jury finds him guilty of whatever charges are brought...will Trump just pardon him and things will go on like before? Would Trump even let it go that far?
He can pardon whoever he wants, for whatever reason he wants, whenever he wants.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-pardon-michael-flynn/?utm_term=.311189f3afd4
And if any of those people are convicted, and possibly even before that, he will pardon them, political fallout be damned.
You can bank on it.
Yep...that's my take on it...he CAN do it...the Constitution gives him that power...and he WOULD do it...in a New York minute.
The spin has begun. I just heard a nameless conservative commentator on the news say a private channel between Trump & Russia could have been needed because our Intel Agencies are too leaky thus they didn't want to use established channels.
Sounds pretty weak to me
Except can't a pardon only be issued after a conviction? So for that to work there would have to be a carefully arranged scenario in which someone would take the fall for obstruction in exchange for a promise to be pardoned. That in itself would seem to be tampering/obstruction.
The Pardoning Power
The power to pardon comes from Article II of the U.S. Constitution, which gives the president "Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States." While the Supreme Court has interpreted the power broadly -- "It extends to every offense known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment" -- it is limited to those offenses falling under the jurisdiction of the pardoning official.
And in the end, this is why they'll never get the goods on Trump himself, not for collusion. They aren't going to have a recording of Trump himself colluding with Russians. The only way they could ever get him is by getting the goods on one of his associates, and that person turns on him in exchange for immunity. But Trump will pardon the person before that could happen. This power means he is totally insulated.
Pardons are only federal as well. If a state prosecutes and convicts Trump can't do shit.
Yep. NY AG Schneiderman come on down. You're the next contestant on "File a RICO case".
Rofl...that would be beautiful...but I'm NOT gonna hold my breath waiting for it to happen.
Hmmm... http://www.palmerreport.com/politic...ctments-in-donald-trumps-russia-scandal/2314/