Some screenshot in interviews with Valve showed some LFD3 stuff (trick? or legit, seems to be the question) and it was over a year ago it was noticed ... LFD when played with a good group is a damn fun game. But to many FPS are all "you vs all" and LFD doesn't play well like that, the battle Royal games are HOT and to many want to play co-op games like that. I still play a game or two almost every day, its actually a challenge now as nobody plays to support each other. Frustration can be an issue, but its still quite fun.
Vermintide was mentioned (like it quite a bit too) but the TOXIC player base in LFD was mentioned, not much different in V.. Joining Vermintide now means you get left behind almost every game as you dont know the maps like back of your hand, and any exploring at all is instant death as rest of team has picked map clean and is way ahead of you. cant get an ITEM as 99% of the player base it just running a match to farm, they couldn't give a shit less if you make it or not. But i agree at this point its a better game, maybe not design wise but its newer then LFD2, and has a few new tricks up its sleeve that makes it seem a bit fresher. Isn't there a V2 comming out soon too?