LA approves condom measure for porn shoots. Porn industry vows to move out of LA.

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Thump553

Lifer
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I wonder which state will be the first to offer them a multimillion dollar subsidy to move in. After all they are job creators.
 

RightIsWrong

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Just how many porn stars have acquired AIDS and what it's the cost benefit of enforcing this crap versus just collecting whatever taxes you can from the industry?
 

jackschmittusa

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If it's good for the porn industry, it's good for the rest of the population too. But they're going to need a lot more inspectors.
 

Exterous

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You want to look at blue waffles every day? May I interest you in some drugs to treat your obvious mental disorder?

You misunderstand. I was merely offering to take a paying job to visit porn sites - verify they have a health certificate and to watch the production of the movie to ensure that condoms were being worn. (heterosexual movies only....well....lesbian if, for some reason, they wanted someone to verify there was a condom on the dildo, strap on, sybian, machine....)
 

HamburgerBoy

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You misunderstand. I was merely offering to take a paying job to visit porn sites - verify they have a health certificate and to watch the production of the movie to ensure that condoms were being worn. (heterosexual movies only....well....lesbian if, for some reason, they wanted someone to verify there was a condom on the dildo, strap on, sybian, machine....)

Is verification really even all that necessary? It's verifiable by the end product, at least in the case of hardcore pornography. If condoms are visible, it means they are abiding the law. If none can be seen where they should be, it means they are not (or that they've adopted a workaround whereby they just photoshop the condom away).
 
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Sure there is. It's about the safety of employees in the industry and potential for exploitation in a field that can be seen as demeaning to women. If this was about simple sexual morality, they'd be campaigning to abolish pornography entirely. That LA (blue county) supported this measure should make that obvious.

But they dont have the right to force them to wear condoms. The major issue is also the viewers dont want condoms being used
 

HamburgerBoy

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But they dont have the right to force them to wear condoms. The major issue is also the viewers dont want condoms being used

They clearly do have the right. Forcing employees to not wear condoms is not free speech or whatever the porno industry claims. Not saying I support this measure, however.
 

Ns1

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Voters told public health officials to begin monitoring the filming of sex scenes in pornographic movies.

On Wednesday, the county was trying to figure out how.

The new law requires porn actors to wear condoms and establishes a permitting system similar in some ways to how Los Angeles County inspects restaurants. Porn producers are required to purchase health permits from the county, which will perform spot inspections on porn sets to make sure condoms are being used. The inspectors can close production if the filmmakers don’t comply with the rules.

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The county has said the law, pushed by AIDS activists concerned about disease outbreaks, forces the establishment of a new bureaucracy complete with inspection schedules, a permitting process, a training program for dealing with bodily fluids and a special vault for evidence seized from movie sets. County employees could even be called upon to screen X-rated titles for condom compliance.

Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky, who has been critical of the measure, said it would be difficult for the county to enforce the law because many porn shoots occur in private homes and are never registered with authorities. But he added that the county was obligated to enforce the law, which passed with 55.9% of the vote.

“People voted for it and they’re entitled to have it on the books,” Yaroslavsky said. “It’s a challenge we’re going to have to confront.”

The passage of the law created an outcry Wednesday in the adult entertainment industry. Porn producers have long said consumers will not purchase movies in which actors wear condoms and on Wednesday, executives and directors once again threatened to move from long-time production sites in the San Fernando Valley to other California counties, Las Vegas or Hungary, Europe’s center of adult moviemaking.

“I love this business, but I feel this is an attempt to drive us out of California,’’ said veteran director Kevin Moore. In a letter to county supervisors, the head of an industry lobbying group called the law “untenable for adult production” and said the group was preparing a suit to stop it from going into effect on 1st Amendment and other grounds.

The measure leaves the details of inspections to the county.The county has estimated enforcing the law would cost nearly $300,000 in the first year with fees from the production companies covering its costs.

The Safer Sex in the Adult Film Industry Act, also known as Measure B, was the brainchild of the L.A.-based AIDS Healthcare Foundation, which bills itself as the largest AIDS healthcare organization in the world.

The group’s president, Michael Weinstein, waged a mostly lonely battle for condoms in sex scenes for a decade, ramping up public pressure on officials in 2005 following the HIV infection of three actresses by a porn star.

His efforts were opposed by the industry, which maintained that mandatory actor testing was effective, and he got little traction with elected officials who seemed reluctant to wade into unsavory details of pornographic production.

Pressure increased in 2010 when a porn actor was infected with HIV. County officials said they were in favor of condom use, but didn’t want the law because the state had jurisdiction for workplace safety and that in any case, enforcement would be too difficult. Dr. Jonathan Fielding, the county health officer, wrote in a report this summer that it would be challenging to identify “underground, inconspicuous, intentionally noncompliant filmmakers.” County lawyers also said they worried the measure violated the 1st Amendment.

Weinstein charged that the real issue for county supervisors was disgust with the world of pornography. Their rejection led him to take the issue to the ballot box, where, the public did not evince any of the government’s qualms, he said Wednesday.

“There was no ‘ick factor’ among the voters. They were so much far ahead of the politicians. And they made a considered decision,” Weinstein said.

He said the county’s worries about enforcement were silly and reflected officials’ distaste for anything related to adult entertainment.

“If you have a hot dog stand, you apply for a permit and periodically a health inspector comes out and determines whether you’re operating safely, so you don’t give food poisoning to people,” Weinstein said. “We have 134 businesses that require county permits. Why is this so exotic?”

He noted that the county has required sex clubs and bathhouses to obtain government permits since 2006.

Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich, who had remained silent on the law, declared his support for it Wednesday.

“It’s a matter of public health when you have the spreading of disease,” Antonovich said.

The porn industry vowed to continue battling the law and made the economic impact on the region a central argument. About 5,000 adult films are shot each year in the county, employing more than 10,000 people according to industry estimates.

Steven Hirsch, founder of the adult film company Vivid Entertainment Group, said the industry would fight the measure “to the very end” and predicted efforts to enforce the law would be an expensive failure.

“The truth of the matter is I’m not sure there will be a lot to enforce if no one is producing in the county of Los Angeles,” he said, adding that supervisors would “spend a lot of time and a lot of money on how to figure out how to put something in place that ultimately won’t work.”

Evidence of how closely the porn community was following the vote could be found on an industry website where images of scantily clad women appeared next to breathless vote tallies from the county registrar-recorder’s office.

“The margins have closed slightly, though, as more returns have been posted to the official government website,” AVN.com reported, adding, “Oh, and President Obama was re-elec

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...t-porn-sets-for-condom-use-under-new-law.html



yeah there's gonna be NO porn production in LA anymore. Why the fuck would a producer front the money to get hosed by legislation? They won't.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Man the SFV legacy as the epicenter of porn goes back for decades. Kinda sad to see it come to an end like this. I liked me some Chatsworth sluts from back in the day.
 

wirednuts

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there are more std's in la's porn business then there are in nevada's brothels.

but if you ask me, its peoples choice. if the government wants their hands in it, why dont they force mandatory std testing and tracking of the results? just make it so people know what theyre getting into before they come.
 
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Aw crap now porn is going to be over run with Eastern European girls that dress funny and guys that have obnoxious accents.
 

techs

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A lot of the porn industry already moved to Russia and the newly freed former Soviet satellite states.
And Japan always had the monoply on tentacle porn.
 

Ns1

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Man the SFV legacy as the epicenter of porn goes back for decades. Kinda sad to see it come to an end like this. I liked me some Chatsworth sluts from back in the day.

I work down the street from Vivid and who knows how many other porn companies. I'll be miss seeing the busted porn stars at the In N Out across the street.

Aw crap now porn is going to be over run with Eastern European girls that dress funny and guys that have obnoxious accents.

if fakeagent is any indication, I don't mind.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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I work down the street from Vivid and who knows how many other porn companies. I'll be miss seeing the busted porn stars at the In N Out across the street.
Ventura county should just decide to incorporate everything down to White Oak. 805 area codes for everybody!
 

DucatiMonster696

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I will never understand our stupid culture when it comes to sex. It's as if we're 100 years behind.

I will never understand the nanny state mentality (i.e. "I don't like/it scares me so lets use government to regulate it or ban it.") but it also ecompasses the backward views on sex.

However if LA insists on being stupid then it will be to the economic benefit of other cities/regions such as Orange County, Las Vegas and SF, etc.

In fact there is already a very large porn studio located in SF between 14th and 15th Mission street. It is a rather large and old brick building that was once a military armory. Anyways this is nice a example of how government can drive out industries and kill jobs via legislation and regulations.
 
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Cerpin Taxt

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Anyone have any sense for how this law applies to porn shoots that are on-location outside of LA county? I mean, could they all keep their offices in LA county and go shoot out in Scheemy Valley or something? I imagine there's something keeping them from doing that.
 
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