LA Clippers Owner Donald Sterling's Racist Rant Caught On Tape

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emperus

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From the Gf's attorney

An audio recording said to be of Clippers team owner Donald Sterling making racist statements is authentic, and his girlfriend V. Stiviano did not release it to any news outlets, her attorney said in an e-mail Sunday to the Los Angeles Times.
The 15-minute recording is part of a one-hour conversation between Sterling and his client, V. Stiviano, attorney Mac Nehoray said in the e-mail. Nehoray, of the Calabasas-based Nehoray Legal Group, is representing Stiviano in a civil lawsuit brought against her by Sterling’s wife, Rochelle.
"Due to the present litigation and its absurd allegations, which Ms. Stiviano vehemently denies, Ms. Stiviano and this office have no comments at this time," Nehoray said in his statement.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...g-tape-20140427,0,3361864.story#ixzz307jhnFzO
 

fskimospy

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Wait, are people really saying that this is somehow not him? Give me a break. Anything is possible but the idea that she fabricated this tape somehow is really, really unlikely. It is also hard to see how most of these statements could be taken out of context.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Authenticate the tape? Who is going to be the arbiter whether the tape is authentic or not? No matter the outcome of this episode. I think your responses thus far speak volumes about you and your world view.

Yes, my poor world view that a person is innocent until proven guilty speaks volumes.

We already know that you immediately judge without proof. You argue for weeks on end even when proven wrong.
 
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Wait, are people really saying that this is somehow not him? Give me a break. Anything is possible but the idea that she fabricated this tape somehow is really, really unlikely. It is also hard to see how most of these statements could be taken out of context.

I can imagine them being out of context and actually being even worse.
 

michal1980

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Who gives a shit? Maybe that NAACP chapter is run by assholes too. Maybe they took a big contribution in return for giving him the award.

Democrats can be assholes too, but notice how nobody is rallying around and defending Sterling, and the NAACP chapter has cancelled the award. That's the difference. You don't have MSNBC running to his defense, organizing rallies and screaming about religious persecution and government intrusion.

divert divert divert.

Until last week this known racist was going to be given a major award by the NAACP, and was a democrat buddy. Until last week the left had no problems with a racist. Now because a recording they have a problem. As long as its a little hush hush, the dems are fine with racists.
 

berzerker60

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divert divert divert.

Until last week this known racist was going to be given a major award by the NAACP, and was a democrat buddy. Until last week the left had no problems with a racist. Now because a recording they have a problem. As long as its a little hush hush, the dems are fine with racists.
Do you think the Los Angeles chapter of the NAACP somehow speaks for Democrats at large, and that Democrats have some kind of top-down decision-making process for deciding who gets to be in their exclusive club? Any asshole can sign up to be in any party. He was an asshole before the tape, too, based on the older racist shit he's done, but there are a lot of racist assholes in the world. It's not like he's a politician or something, where people are voting for him and expressing approval. Instead, he's getting pretty much uniformly panned for his racist assholery.

What exactly is your point to 'divert' from? That a racist asshole calls himself a Democrat somewhere in America, and also some city chapter of the NAACP was going to give him award but isn't now, and therefore Democrats generally are in favor of racist assholes?
 

michal1980

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Do you think the Los Angeles chapter of the NAACP somehow speaks for Democrats at large, and that Democrats have some kind of top-down decision-making process for deciding who gets to be in their exclusive club? Any asshole can sign up to be in any party. He was an asshole before the tape, too, based on the older racist shit he's done, but there are a lot of racist assholes in the world. It's not like he's a politician or something, where people are voting for him and expressing approval. Instead, he's getting pretty much uniformly panned for his racist assholery.

What exactly is your point to 'divert' from? That a racist asshole calls himself a Democrat somewhere in America, and also some city chapter of the NAACP was going to give him award but isn't now, and therefore Democrats generally are in favor of racist assholes?

yes yes, keep the stupidity flowing.

Typical lib word vomit.

A republican does something = all republicans are evil.

A democrat does it = isolated incident nothing to see here.
 

CanOWorms

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yes yes, keep the stupidity flowing.

Typical lib word vomit.

A republican does something = all republicans are evil.

A democrat does it = isolated incident nothing to see here.

It's not all Republicans are evil. It's just that most are.
 

fskimospy

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Yes, my poor world view that a person is innocent until proven guilty speaks volumes.

We already know that you immediately judge without proof. You argue for weeks on end even when proven wrong.

This isn't a court of law. Funny thing is that civil cases (ie: between people) are decided based on the preponderance of the evidence. In this case that pretty strongly points to him having done this.
 

Retro Rob

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This isn't a court of law. Funny thing is that civil cases (ie: between people) are decided based on the preponderance of the evidence. In this case that pretty strongly points to him having done this.

Just to piggy-back off of Matt's victim complex (which, admittedly, I find astoundingly irrelevant to the discussion), Sterling did say that she can admire blacks "privately".

It tickled me a little bit that a racists would use the same line of reasoning liberals do when they say conservative can worship God, but to do it "privately".

()
 

Londo_Jowo

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This isn't a court of law. Funny thing is that civil cases (ie: between people) are decided based on the preponderance of the evidence. In this case that pretty strongly points to him having done this.

What if the tape can't be authenticated? Or shows signs that it was digitally modified?

I will wait to see what the NBA's investigation shows, should the tape be authenticated and proven that it wasn't tampered with in any way then I will agree sanctions should be taken against him.
 

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yes yes, keep the stupidity flowing.

Typical lib word vomit.

A republican does something = all republicans are evil.

A democrat does it = isolated incident nothing to see here.
I'll simplify it for you:

A nobody Republican does something bad = who gives a shit

An elected Republican politician does something bad = Evidence of Republican shittiness

A not-yet-elected Republican politician does something bad = Speaks to what insiders seem to think Republicans want to buy, but not direct evidence of Republican shittiness in isolation; a bunch of cases together starts to make a bigger case. If he still gets elected, even worse.

A nobody Republican does something bad, Republican establishment races to his defense = Evidence of Republican shittiness

A nobody Republican does something bad, throngs of Republican voters swarm to his defense with conspiracy theories and talk of violence and martyrdom = Evidence of Republican shittiness

Don't get me wrong, you've made a good case that the L.A. chapter of the NAACP fucked up good, especially if there are additional cases of them supporting racist assholes for money. That's all you've got though. There's no Dem establishment, no throngs, no Rush Limbaugh equivalent, no Glenn Becks or Alex Joneses rushing to his defense.
 

Greenman

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It's not against the law to be a raciest. It's not against the law to request your mistress not associate with ethnic groups you don't like. So what is the NBA going to investigate? What gives them any authority or over the fellows personal beliefs? How can they investigate anything when they have no legal standing? Do they have a code of ethics that members must adhere too?

The whole thing is nothing short of weird to me. Anyone offended by his remarks should not do business with him, but beyond that, I don't see what action can be taken.
 

fskimospy

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It's not against the law to be a raciest. It's not against the law to request your mistress not associate with ethnic groups you don't like. So what is the NBA going to investigate? What gives them any authority or over the fellows personal beliefs? How can they investigate anything when they have no legal standing? Do they have a code of ethics that members must adhere too?

The whole thing is nothing short of weird to me. Anyone offended by his remarks should not do business with him, but beyond that, I don't see what action can be taken.

So basically you're saying that if the NBA is offended by his remarks they shouldn't do business with him?
 

berzerker60

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So.... what? What are they going to do to him?
Probably not much given political realities, most likely some kind of fine in the tens of thousands of dollars, which is nothing at all to a man that rich. In theory a vote of the other owners could probably force him to sell, which would net him at least a billion. They could remove his right to deal with the league directly, which would mean he keeps getting profits from the team but can't go to games or be publicly involved. My money is on a hand-wringing statement about the NBA's core values and a pittance of a fine.
 

emperus

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What if the tape can't be authenticated? Or shows signs that it was digitally modified?

I will wait to see what the NBA's investigation shows, should the tape be authenticated and proven that it wasn't tampered with in any way then I will agree sanctions should be taken against him.

How very brave of you.
 

emperus

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Yes, my poor world view that a person is innocent until proven guilty speaks volumes.

We already know that you immediately judge without proof. You argue for weeks on end even when proven wrong.

innocent until proven guilty, that is if it's a racist or some other right wing nut.

You should actually go check out your post in the Lois Lerner thread. I wonder if you preached ur innocent until proven guilty and "worldview" there or chastened the OP for starting that thread.
 
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I didn't know that 'innocent until proven guilty' is going to apply here. Are we taking this ignorant racist moron to court?
 

Nebor

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So, a player can get fined for making a homophobic remark, but being a racist means nothing can be done about it?

I understand he's an owner, but they can be fined as well.

Sure, go ahead, fine him. But remember he's the one that's giving the players food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. So you'll need to fine him tens of millions for him to feel it, which the NBA doesn't have the authority to do.
 

fskimospy

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Sure, go ahead, fine him. But remember he's the one that's giving the players food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. So you'll need to fine him tens of millions for him to feel it, which the NBA doesn't have the authority to do.

Of course the NBA has the authority to fine him. Where did you get the idea that they didn't?
 
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