Laid Off w/ Severance But Not Getting Interviews To Return

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postmortemIA

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OP if you were persistent at work (read as "don't know when to let go") as you are here ... seems like they got tired of dealing with you
 

Miky1574

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OP if you were persistent at work (read as "don't know when to let go") as you are here ... seems like they got tired of dealing with you

If they dont like employees who are persistent at work then IDK what that says about the company. You would think a company would want an employee who embodies their core values, makes them money, cares about the company and the other employees and is passionate and determined at what they do. Thats the type of employee I was and I was proud of the work I did.

Now the day a company does NOT want an employee like that, is the day the worldwide leaders in any industry come crashing down. To say a company doesn't want that kind of employee is like saying a Lion doesn't want to eat on a Gazelle, or a fish doesn't want to swim.

Doesn't make sense to me.
 

OverVolt

Lifer
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When you find employment else where you'll feel alot better.

They did you a favor.
 

Lonyo

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If they dont like employees who are persistent at work then IDK what that says about the company. You would think a company would want an employee who embodies their core values, makes them money, cares about the company and the other employees and is passionate and determined at what they do. Thats the type of employee I was and I was proud of the work I did.

Now the day a company does NOT want an employee like that, is the day the worldwide leaders in any industry come crashing down. To say a company doesn't want that kind of employee is like saying a Lion doesn't want to eat on a Gazelle, or a fish doesn't want to swim.

Doesn't make sense to me.

Maybe you have an inflated opinion of yourself.
I get high ratings and work hard etc etc, but I could understand if I was let go why that would be, as I am not perfect.
As it is, my office has staffing issues anyway so they almost never get rid of people because they can't afford to at the moment, and because enough people leave anyway that staffing is a semi-constant issue.

Maybe you think you are better than you really are.
 

88keys

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Maybe they just don't like you, top performer.
Sometimes being a top performer can get you terminated depending on what kind of workplace politics you're dealing with.

But yeah, I agree with the consensus that it's time to move on. Hypothetically speaking I wouldn't feel very secure if I were in your position and I were hired back. That and I probably would have some hard feelings that would reflect in my performance which could get me laid off in the future.

Moving on from these situations and not looking back is more often than not the best thing you can do.
 

dphantom

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Laid off with severance is a polite way to fire people. Be thankful for the severance package and move on. Best wishes on finding a place you like better!
this.

you were fired without being told you were fired.
 

Destiny

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this.

you were fired without being told you were fired.

This...

Being laid off with severance allows you to collect unemployment... if they directly fired you, you may not get unemployment...

if they wanted you to stay - they would have offered to transfer you to another dept instead of letting you go...

either way - they can be a variety reasons that may have nothing to do with your performance or you.
 
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Michael

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The fact that you cannot understand that you were fired and now on the "do not rehire list" shows that you may not be as well suited for management as you thought.

Michael
 

Zstream

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Nah, man people are let go with severance because of internal politics or other random issues. Don't be an asshole and just assume someone is bad at the position.
 

OverVolt

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You could have spent your whole life working at a company and being unable to move up without ever knowing why. They did you a favor.
 

JEDIYoda

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So let me get this straight -- Micky1574 was laid off and given a severance!

Why would they give Micky a severance if the lay off was not permanent?

Somebody like Micky who has a self inflated ego or opinion of his worth would be a terrible person to have in a work environment!
usually people like Micky are not capable of being a team player! Without drawing attention to his value and abilities!

Micky the bottom line is they do not want you back!!!!!

Deal with it!!
 

JEDIYoda

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Nah, man people are let go with severance because of internal politics or other random issues. Don't be an asshole and just assume someone is bad at the position.
What I got from this was not that the responder was being an asshole...the responder was reacting to Micky being full of himself and his worth!!
 

smackababy

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I would just be happy it wasn't the 70s and "firing" someone from a casino included a hole in the desert.
 

Miky1574

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So let me get this straight -- Micky1574 was laid off and given a severance!

Why would they give Micky a severance if the lay off was not permanent?

Somebody like Micky who has a self inflated ego or opinion of his worth would be a terrible person to have in a work environment!
usually people like Micky are not capable of being a team player! Without drawing attention to his value and abilities!

Micky the bottom line is they do not want you back!!!!!

Deal with it!!

It's not having a self-inflated ego or opinion of myself if I have documented recognition of my good work. Multiple awards being given is not "SELF" inflation. If your job recognizes your work in a positive way and then you're laid off and not getting a chance to return, then you're justified in being confused as to why.

If I was one of those employees who show up for the 9-5 and go home without really putting my all into it, then you may have a point, but thats not the case.

So dont be a fucking dick. I've moved on. Been looking at other companies. But I'll always wonder what the hell happened.
 

Superself

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It's not having a self-inflated ego or opinion of myself if I have documented recognition of my good work. Multiple awards being given is not "SELF" inflation. If your job recognizes your work in a positive way and then you're laid off and not getting a chance to return, then you're justified in being confused as to why.

If I was one of those employees who show up for the 9-5 and go home without really putting my all into it, then you may have a point, but thats not the case.

So dont be a fucking dick. I've moved on. Been looking at other companies. But I'll always wonder what the hell happened.

Welcome to the real world where shit just happens. You toughen up and learn to move on. Sounds like you have already done that, so good for you.
 

IndyColtsFan

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It's not having a self-inflated ego or opinion of myself if I have documented recognition of my good work. Multiple awards being given is not "SELF" inflation. If your job recognizes your work in a positive way and then you're laid off and not getting a chance to return, then you're justified in being confused as to why.

If I was one of those employees who show up for the 9-5 and go home without really putting my all into it, then you may have a point, but thats not the case.

So dont be a fucking dick. I've moved on. Been looking at other companies. But I'll always wonder what the hell happened.

First, ignore JediYoda - he is a moron (the rule of thumb on AT: anyone with 'Jedi' in his name can be safely ignored).

Second, as others have said, time to move on. There are many possible reasons why this happened but at the end of the day, why does it matter? You're not receiving call backs when applying there so for whatever reason, they can't/won't hire you back.
 

TheGardener

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Somewhere in the document you signed when accepting severance, there is a limitation for you coming back and suing the casino for cause. It helps them avoid lawsuits. Call it their insurance policy. They help you, but they also help themselves. Giving a decent severance package also helps employee morale of the people staying.

You need to cut the cord and focus on getting a job elsewhere. As far as references go, many companies will just tell your prospective employer that you worked there and that you left because they were "rightsizing" the company. Just because they said they'd give you a reference, doesn't mean that prospective employers are going to get a glowing account. Hopefully there are one or two or more people there who will give you a real recommendation. Talk to them and find out if you can have a recommendation in writing, or if they are willing give one verbally by phone. If by phone, ask what they will say. You want to limit surprises. Get organized. Document. Treat this like a job.

You've heard of real estate people saying the 3 most important things are location, location and location. Well in a job search, it is networking, networking and networking. Start a list of people to contact and stay in touch. Ask for names of people they know who you can contact. I'm not a social media guy, but I'm sure that you can use this as a tool. Find a local group that meets 2 or 4 times a month. Having a support group can help you organize and be prepared. Lots of resources on the net. Good luck.
 
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nk215

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Many company give out severance packages. Why? Because no one wants to be the one deciding on no-severance packages. The higher the person that hands out the bad news, the higher the chance of getting a severance package. People want to show compassion. After all, it’s not their personal money but it’s their personal experience/dealing with delivering the bad news to you.

Employers always say “yes” to reference request unless they are doing you a favor and telling you the truth (no) – which nobody does anymore since a reference doesn’t include much more than “yes he worked here from x-y, salary was xyz”. They don’t want lawsuit by potentially saying the wrong thing. A reference is different from a personal reference (as in you know the boss personally).

There are 2 main reasons they didn’t call you back. Everyone gave you the first one. I’ll give you the second:

Since they know you well, they know interviewing you is just a formality so they put you in the bottom and interview other candidates first. It’s their chance to try for someone new, at worst they know they have you. That means if you get an interview, most likely you’ll get the job.

In many positions, top performers doesn’t really mean much. Almost everyone is a top performers. If you never see a matrix that shows you specifically earn XYZ for the company, reduce cost by XYZ then “top performer” is just lip service. Employers has a specific bucket of money for raises, everyone can be a top performer and get around 0.5% raise of each other. It doesn’t cost the company more to have more top performers.

That’s my view as a SB employer.

Move on, don’t bet on a single company. I wish you the best in luck.
 

mrjminer

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There could also be some sort of terms they have with severance, whether you are aware of them or not. Could also be some internal company policy that if they give someone a severance they don't hire them back for xx months or something.

Either way, move on time for sure.
 

OverVolt

Lifer
Aug 31, 2002
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Many company give out severance packages. Why? Because no one wants to be the one deciding on no-severance packages. The higher the person that hands out the bad news, the higher the chance of getting a severance package. People want to show compassion. After all, it’s not their personal money but it’s their personal experience/dealing with delivering the bad news to you.

Employers always say “yes” to reference request unless they are doing you a favor and telling you the truth (no) – which nobody does anymore since a reference doesn’t include much more than “yes he worked here from x-y, salary was xyz”. They don’t want lawsuit by potentially saying the wrong thing. A reference is different from a personal reference (as in you know the boss personally).

There are 2 main reasons they didn’t call you back. Everyone gave you the first one. I’ll give you the second:

Since they know you well, they know interviewing you is just a formality so they put you in the bottom and interview other candidates first. It’s their chance to try for someone new, at worst they know they have you. That means if you get an interview, most likely you’ll get the job.

In many positions, top performers doesn’t really mean much. Almost everyone is a top performers. If you never see a matrix that shows you specifically earn XYZ for the company, reduce cost by XYZ then “top performer” is just lip service. Employers has a specific bucket of money for raises, everyone can be a top performer and get around 0.5% raise of each other. It doesn’t cost the company more to have more top performers.

That’s my view as a SB employer.

Move on, don’t bet on a single company. I wish you the best in luck.

A manager who doesn't read what he signs? A top performer!
 
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