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HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
What's the reason for bringing up global warming for this?

Oh yeah, you just wanted to troll.

Actually if you notice there was huge retreat in the glacier that fed that lake.

The water table dropped so it was inevitable that a leak developed and drained that lake to the new water table level.

So it was Global Warming that caused it.

It's a possibility but it's not mentioned in the article anywhere. He brought it up just to troll.
 

ericlp

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Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
Actually I posted the thread because it was interesting. I just added the Troll for fun. I am glad Techs took it as a jest, bringing up Dune.

Thanks for some insight Lemon Law.

Nonono He just wanted to troll for FUN... I'm glad trolls are having lots of fun!
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
I think that this goes to show that large events can happen very quickly, even without human intervention. Would anyone have guessed before that a very large lake (5 acres, 100ft deep) could have completely disappeared within two months?

100 feet is deep for it's size. But 5 acres is little more than a puddle in the grand scheme of water bodies.
 
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Is there a salt mine or deposit below that lake. There was a lake in Louisiana that an oil company accidentally drilled in the wrong spot and exposed the lake water to a salt mine, and drained the lake and the whirlpool sucked down several large barges.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
who is to say that Global Warming didn't form that lake 30 years ago?

How long does it have to be around to get lake status? 30 years in the life of the earth is kinda like it being a giant puddle!




still many glaciers are expanding, its just far easier to make hay out of the ones that aren't.


hehe. exactly what i was thinking.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Shivetya
who is to say that Global Warming didn't form that lake 30 years ago?

How long does it have to be around to get lake status? 30 years in the life of the earth is kinda like it being a giant puddle!




still many glaciers are expanding, its just far easier to make hay out of the ones that aren't.</end quote></div>


hehe. exactly what i was thinking.

Where are the "expanding" glaciers? Do they compensate for the receding ones? What ratio 1 to 100?
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: XZeroII
I think that this goes to show that large events can happen very quickly, even without human intervention. Would anyone have guessed before that a very large lake (5 acres, 100ft deep) could have completely disappeared within two months?</end quote></div>

100 feet is deep for it's size. But 5 acres is little more than a puddle in the grand scheme of water bodies.

Thank you. Five acres is a dinky lake.


The one that drained in FL a few years ago was Lake Jackson, one time the foremost bass fishing lake in the USA.

I lived there for many years and fished it quite often. It had a habit of occaisonaly expanding or contracting. I remember fishing over top homes that had been swallowed up rather sudentdenly. Good spots, the fish liked to hide there.

Fern
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: zinfamous
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Shivetya
who is to say that Global Warming didn't form that lake 30 years ago?

How long does it have to be around to get lake status? 30 years in the life of the earth is kinda like it being a giant puddle!




still many glaciers are expanding, its just far easier to make hay out of the ones that aren't.</end quote></div>


hehe. exactly what i was thinking.</end quote></div>

Where are the "expanding" glaciers? Do they compensate for the receding ones? What ratio 1 to 100?


I wasn't referring to Shivetya's "expanding glacier" comment. ...Merely the fact that the lake isn't even a generation old, and has already disappeared. Aside from the evidence that it leaked through a rather large fissure that opened beneath it, any notion of climate change being directly involved here is ludicrous.

Yes, it seems that it formed from a retreating glacier, like most lakes...but to argue that warming caused it's disappearance (as a negative outcome), you'd have to accept that it was warming that caused it's appearance.

BTW, I am an environmentally-inclined person that trusts scientists above the paranoid delusions of the average right-winger, so my "here, here" towards Shivetya was an effort to quell some of the more ludicrous reactions expected from this lake's disappearance.
 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: zinfamous
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Shivetya
who is to say that Global Warming didn't form that lake 30 years ago?

How long does it have to be around to get lake status? 30 years in the life of the earth is kinda like it being a giant puddle!




still many glaciers are expanding, its just far easier to make hay out of the ones that aren't.</end quote></div>


hehe. exactly what i was thinking.</end quote></div>

Where are the "expanding" glaciers? Do they compensate for the receding ones? What ratio 1 to 100?


The glaciers in temperate zones are decreasing, as they have in generations gone past. Such is one reason they found remains of villages long covered up by Ice. Some in the himalayas are packing in mass, some in scandanavian countries as well. New Zealand also is experiencing expanding glaciers.

Don't expec the press to tell you otherwise, they have already decided so stuff that doesn't fit their group think is no longer news worthy.

 

KMurphy

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Is there a salt mine or deposit below that lake. There was a lake in Louisiana that an oil company accidentally drilled in the wrong spot and exposed the lake water to a salt mine, and drained the lake and the whirlpool sucked down several large barges.</end quote></div>

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dphantom

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
What's the reason for bringing up global warming for this?

Oh yeah, you just wanted to troll.

Actually if you notice there was huge retreat in the glacier that fed that lake.

The water table dropped so it was inevitable that a leak developed and drained that lake to the new water table level.

So it was Global Warming that caused it.

Sort of like the glaciers that have recently melted in Europe, revealing medieval buildings from when the earth was warmer several hundred years ago? Wonder how humans warmed the earth back then.......

There was a lot more volcanic activity.

You may want to check your science. When Pinatubo erupted, the ash and other particulate matter cooled the Earth by about 1 degree F over the next few months.
 

dmcowen674

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I'm officially right:

7-4-2007 Global warming blamed for vanishing lake

SANTIAGO, Chile - Scientists on Tuesday blamed global warming for the disappearance of a glacial lake in remote southern Chile that faded away in just two months, leaving just a crater behind.

After flying over the lake Monday scientists said they were able to draw preliminary conclusions that point to climate change as the leading culprit for the lake's disappearance.

They suggested the melting of nearby glaciers raised the lake's level to the point where the increased water pressure caused part of a glacier acting as a dam to give way. Water in the lake flowed out of the breach, into a nearby fiord and then to the sea, said Andres Rivera, a glaciologist with Chile's Center of Scientific Studies.

On one side of the Bernardo glacier one can see a large hole or gap, and we believe that's where the water flowed through," Rivera said in a navy communique. "This confirms that glaciers in the region are retreating and getting thinner."

"This would not be happening if the temperature had not increased," Rivera said
 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I don't know who did it or why they did it but apparently they dropped it on Sheffield.

Lol.

Well it isn't funny really. I have friends in Yorkshire and a week or so ago their house was flooded. They had insane rain there and ended up with 2.5 feet of water in their house.

A month or so ago we had over 6.5 inches of rain in a few hours. Never seen rain like that before.

I read Oklahoma had the equivalent of the entire previous record for rain in June come down in one single day. One day.

So lots of floods and lots of draughts worldwide. And that is just what the effects of GW show up as really.



 
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GrGr, i really like your sig, and you are right it's not all that funny, i've got half the house flooded and there is feces that people have flushed coming up from my cellar.

And this is exactly what it is all about and it will only get worse, but hey, let's do what the fucking numbnuts do and pretend it doesn't exist and maybe the water will magically dissapear, thatis what they seem to think.

Yorkshire got hit pretty much as hard as we have and it sucks.
 
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