LAKERS on the road to three-peat. New Jersey WHO?!?!??

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Bobomatic

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The lakers, as a team, complain about the way other teams play shaq. Shaq does his share of complaining, as do his teammates...lets see, one quote, from the sportingnews team report on the lakers...

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It also has been a contentious series, with everything from hotel room service food to the officiating open to critique. The Lakers complained that O'Neal wasn't getting the respect he deserved while Sacramento won three of four games midway through the series -- and in Game 6, the Kings were whistled for a foul nearly every time they touched O'Neal.
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I could find others, but thats the general tone...the lakers work the refs a lot between games-and most of it revolves around the way the other team plays shaq.

So some people paraphraise(sp?) badly. I want to see a quote that is shaq complining about specifically hack a shaq. good luck finding one, maybe if you go to some quotes from 2 years ago.
 

somethingwitty

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Originally posted by: FrontlineWarrior
dude, that makes you feel better, then go right ahead believing it.
adelman is the most whiny crybaby coach i've ever seen.
vlade is a disgrace to the nba, pouting on the floor after the last foul and saying horry's shot was luck
webber cries about every single damn foul or no-foul

the only way you can say the kings don't whine or whine less than the lakers is if haven't been listening to their comments. i've read almost every article about this playoff series and it's always been the kings crying and bitching.

Webber: Someone told me we had no chance tonight (game 6)
Vlade: Why did they make us come here if they were going to be like that? (game 6)
Adelman: 20 fouls vs. 4? blah blah blah

contrast to:
Kobe: That's the way the game is, you just have to play through it (game 5)

hmmmmmmmm

Well, for one thing, I honestly dont need to feel better about anything. Though I *am* a laker-hater, I really dont care about the NBA. Yeah, that sounds contradicting, but all I really want to see is exciting basketball. I see it in college hoops, I see it in some pro teams (philly, dallas, and the kings (more so than LA anyways), I do NOT see it in the lakers. Fine, so now I wont watch the finals. no skin off my back. hockey's more exciting anyways

I havent been following the threads, so I dont know if you're a big lakers fan, a self-proclaimed "unbiased" viewer, or what... but I DO know that, from reading your post I'm quoting now, you are clearly making rash generalizations...adelman and vlade biggest babies, etc-dude, have you seen, to name one, portland? incidently, the portland series was one in which I enjoyed watching the lakers win, since portland's crying is much more amusing than any kings crying, percieved or real

As for the quotes-you're referencing quotes from after game 6, a terribly officiated game by all accounts. I dont know if you watch PTI on espn, but, as a washington area resident, I have the opportunity to read some of michael wilbon's columns. Check this one out; he makes some great points, and he tends to be unbiased and, more importantly, down to earth.

So some people paraphraise(sp?) badly. I want to see a quote that is shaq complining about specifically hack a shaq. good luck finding one, maybe if you go to some quotes from 2 years ago

you're right-i would have trouble finding specific shaq quotes in which he complains about "hack a shaq". however, though I'm not a big fan of watching the games during the season, I seem to recall a number of instances in which shaq got fed up of getting fouled and actually went after the players fouling him. something about an overhand right that, had it landed, would have knocked some guy (brad miller?) out cold. my point is, his teammates still complain for him about the way opponents play him, and he does his share of complaining and, if he feels nothing's changing, taking matters into his own hands. does he use the term "hack-a-shaq"? no, i dont think so. does he complain about the way he's played more than most people in the league? definitely. (do i agree that he IS played differently, since, for lack of a better word, he's a monstrosity who cant be played straight up by 99% of the guys in the league? yep )
 

RalphWiggum

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Great series all around. I was surprised by the Kings, but everyone knew Bibby for Williams was the biggest rip off since Webster .

To the LA-haters, I am surprised at how gracious some of you are. But, I can see where you're coming from as I was a Bull-hater but I still had to give credit where credit was due. And, next year will be a whole new year. And the following year, when TDunk teams up with TMac, the east will finally rise. I can't wait for those years. But for now, I will relish the victory .

Well, this series will definitely go into NBA folklore. One more series to go before we get to chant 3peat, buy our 3peat gear, and watch Madsen do his funky dance and hear Shaq rap. I can't wait...

Lakers baby!
 

OneOfTheseDays

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this series has been without a doubt one of the most exciting series in all of sports history. To say that the Lakers are a boring team is quite a bold statement, what do you want them to do? not pass to shaq and let devon george, derek fisher, robert horry, and rick fox shoot 3 pointers all day?
 

bonk102

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all i know is i feel bad for Macullough, he's got to face Shaq in 2 straight NBA finals.
 

somethingwitty

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
this series has been without a doubt one of the most exciting series in all of sports history. To say that the Lakers are a boring team is quite a bold statement, what do you want them to do? not pass to shaq and let devon george, derek fisher, robert horry, and rick fox shoot 3 pointers all day?

Obviously NOT giving the ball to shaq or choosing to be more of a run and gun team would be stupid on their part. they have a team built around a halfcourt offense with, argueably, the most dominant inside player ever-based on both size and the ability to hit his baby hook or whatever it's called.

they are a boring team (minus the alley-oops to shaq), and thats how they win. it's not, however, the kind of basketball I enjoy. I enjoy watching it when they dont go through shaq, because that usually means kobe is about to pull out some really impressive one on one moves. however, they know thats not how they win, and, in turn, thats why I dont want them to win.

 

her209

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I lmao when Divak was stupid and fouled himself out of the game... pretty sad to be the only person fouled out of a game that went into OT too.
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: somethingwitty
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
this series has been without a doubt one of the most exciting series in all of sports history. To say that the Lakers are a boring team is quite a bold statement, what do you want them to do? not pass to shaq and let devon george, derek fisher, robert horry, and rick fox shoot 3 pointers all day?

Obviously NOT giving the ball to shaq or choosing to be more of a run and gun team would be stupid on their part. they have a team built around a halfcourt offense with, argueably, the most dominant inside player ever-based on both size and the ability to hit his baby hook or whatever it's called.

they are a boring team (minus the alley-oops to shaq), and thats how they win. it's not, however, the kind of basketball I enjoy. I enjoy watching it when they dont go through shaq, because that usually means kobe is about to pull out some really impressive one on one moves. however, they know thats not how they win, and, in turn, thats why I dont want them to win.

GO NETS!!!

lets start praying now

 

zzzz

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this series has been without a doubt one of the most exciting series in all of sports history.
This statement is a lot bolder and sounds like Bill Walton.
 

Zoe

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Originally posted by: CplHicks
Did anybody notice when Jim Gray was interviewing Bibby (I think) that somebody else put a microphone into the view and Gray shoved it out of the way? It was kinda funny and awkward. BTW, Jim Gray is a total ass.

heh yeah i saw that too
 

Rickten

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Originally posted by: FrontlineWarrior
dude, that makes you feel better, then go right ahead believing it.
adelman is the most whiny crybaby coach i've ever seen.
vlade is a disgrace to the nba, pouting on the floor after the last foul and saying horry's shot was luck
webber cries about every single damn foul or no-foul

the only way you can say the kings don't whine or whine less than the lakers is if haven't been listening to their comments. i've read almost every article about this playoff series and it's always been the kings crying and bitching.

Webber: Someone told me we had no chance tonight (game 6)
Vlade: Why did they make us come here if they were going to be like that? (game 6)
Adelman: 20 fouls vs. 4? blah blah blah

contrast to:
Kobe: That's the way the game is, you just have to play through it (game 5)

hmmmmmmmm


First of all, Portland is easily the biggest whiners and easily have all the techinical fouls to prove it. (heck, even kenyon martin whines as much as guys on SAC)

Vlade is the best passing center since Sabonis, and he is a great role model for all NBA players. He left LA to go to Charlotte because it was the "best thing to do for LA" since he loves the city of LA. That has to be among the noblest thing a player could do, stepping aside and letting a better player (i believe this was to make room for shaq) come in.
 

dethman

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He left LA to go to Charlotte because it was the "best thing to do for LA" since he loves the city of LA. That has to be among the noblest thing a player could do, stepping aside and letting a better player (i believe this was to make room for shaq) come in.

that is COMPLETELY untrue. he absolutely did NOT want to leave LA, and he threatened to retire if he was traded because he didn't want to leave the Lakers, jeopardizing the entire Kobe deal and the Shaq signing.

It was only after much hard and tired convincing from many including Jerry West that he was willing to play for the Hornets.

he was one of my favorite players when he played for the Lakers though. always a character.
 

neovan

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Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: neovan Now computing for Game 7.... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... LAKERS WIN!!!
Ah, you must be using one of those intel chips with a faulty FPU. Step up to a real processor and the results show the kings winnings.
my processor concurs with ur result and it IS intel anyways the officiating was not nearly as bad in game 5 not even close come on both foul out and webber at 5 that is just plain BS i'll admit the lakers are a good team but IMO SAC deserves the win because they are a better team and they will

Nope! Its an AMD and running quite fine You guys must be running Cyrix chips

Just my .02 on the series but I thought it was a very exciting series and all you Laker haters are too bitter. So just kick back and watch the Lakers get their three-peat. Sac fans have a really great future ahead of them but its gonna be tough for you guys as long as Kobe and Shaq play together harmoniously.

During the off-season I like to see some acquisitions made: Somehow acquiring GP "The Glove" and trading Derek Fisher. Somehow acquiring KM "The Mailman" to move Robert Horry to the bench (he's better off the bench anyways). That's it! I don't think it will happen but its nice to dream.

Oh yeah...my prediction for the upcoming series: Lakers in 4
 

DTBH

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Ok i might sound crazy for saying this but the nets do have a chance albeit small against the lakers.

The lakes struggled with the princeton offense. Which is what the nets are using right now with great effiency. The nets are arguably a better defensive team than sac.

Mike bibby the point guard punished the lakers throughout the serious. His pentration and kick out really screwed with the lakers. The nets have the best point guard in the business. J kidd.

However that being said. The lakers has shaq who will dominate the NETS with ease. (no flopping vlade here to help) and of course they can put Kobe on kidd.

It will interesting to see who Kobe guards since Jkidd is not really an offensive threat. But overall the lakers are going to meet a team similar to sac in the finals. A team that has less offensive capability but better defensively.

Phil jackson during his chicago years solved his crappy point guard problems but using Pippen to defend the other teams Point. ( remember how stockon was totally overwhelmed by pippen )

sigh... who am I trying to convince? The lakers lack a power forward and a small forward which the nets do not have either. Sac shld have killed the lakers since they had superior players at all those positions including the point.

lakers gonna win it.

I hate the lakers.
 

holden j caufield

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I've been a Laker fan since I was a little kid but I'm also not biased and in all honesty I do think the Kings played a better series overall. Vlade is a smart guy because the best way to defend against Shaq is to get him out of the game or to get him to play passively. That means getting him into foul trouble. If you can get Shaq out you also prevent your team from getting into foul trouble (thus playing passively) or with Shaq in playing aggressively the Lakers are always in the bonus and shooting free throws with like 4 min left in each quarter. Though the Lakers are not a great 3 point shooting team if they could hit even a reasonalbe percentage things would have been significantly different. But if's don't matter for both sides. And yes the Kings whine too much. Everytime down if Vlade or Webber go to the hoop and don't get a call they throw their hands up and look at the refs (how about hustling back). BTW Webber will now be known for his infamous timeout at Michigan and the technical for complaining that cost his team that precious 1 point. Adelman complains like a bitch while Jackson comes off as stating facts, that plants some seeds in the refs for possible future calls. Shaq is hard to officiate because the NBA let those bunny hops and shoulder bumps go for so long. Now they start calling them more but there is nothing worse that inconsistent calls. Some games they call them some they don't. Kings are gonna be good for sometime cause they go like 6 -7 players deep and considering Peja wasn't around and Christie played like crap. But they have to find more minutes for Bobby Jackson
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Bobby Jackson is shaping up to be quite a player. He is unbelievably fast, good shooter, good defender, but just a little inexperienced. I'm amazed at how poised and calm Bibby is though. This little guy is absolutely amazing, cutting in and out, faking defenders left and right, crossin over back and forth, and then dumpin the quick jumpshot while the defender is still trying to find out where he went. Absolutely amazing.
 

BillyBatson

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man i was hoping the lakers would lose
i swear if they get the 3peat i am moving out of LA!!!!!!!!
 

holden j caufield

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the best thing about the B. Jackson is he plays with no fear. Hell he gives away 6-7 inches to Kobe yet he bodies Kobe like he was a 6 footer. But in the long run defensively you're screwed if you have like two six footers in the backcourt. The Lakers need Ron Harper in this series. Now he would've done a significantly better job than fisher. Hell why wasn't Brian Shaw in there more often against Bibby. What they need Fisher in for the bricks he threw up?
 

Dragnov

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The only thing the Lakers need at this moment is a 3rd scorer. Mitch Richmond was supposed to fit the deal but he was struggling throughout the season and didn't prove himself.... I think hes too old. Lakers don't really need a power forward at this moment I'd say... Samaki and Horry do just enough... Madsen should eventually fill that position in once Phil Jackson considers him experienced and good enough.

either Mitch will prove himself next season, or the Lakers will find a good shooter to fit the triangle offense.
 

SirDante

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It's the third scorer curse. Rice, Rider, now Richmond.

Dr. Buss: Please open your walletbook and sign Bibby! (yeah I know it's nearly impossible under the CBA)
 

Stark

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Those Lakers sure are a good team.

I just got off a flight from NY to Ontario CA and the whole plane was watching the score updates on ESPN news. We couldn't even watch the game but the tension was still unbelievable. A cheer went up throughout the plane when the final score was announced.

My 5 thoughts:

1. Vlade went out flopping on the floor... poetic justice if ever there was such a thing.
2. Webber will never win a big game. The kings need to pull him in the 4th like they did with J. Williams.
3. The Lakers should do everything they can to get Bibby on their team next season.
4. Phil Jackson is the best coach of all time... Red be damned.
5. In four (maybe five) more games the dynasty becomes official.
 

FrontlineWarrior

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Originally posted by: BillyBatson
man i was hoping the lakers would lose
i swear if they get the 3peat i am moving out of LA!!!!!!!!


See ya and don't let the door hit you on your way out.
 
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