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Matt1970

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Another Whoosh.

I will take that whoosh over an altered state of reality any day. I am out of this one. You guys have successfully redefined pro-socialism, anti-communism and anti-communism as conservatism. Congratulations are in order.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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I will take that whoosh over an altered state of reality any day. I am out of this one. You guys have successfully redefined pro-socialism, anti-communism and anti-communism as conservatism. Congratulations are in order.

You realize that you're trying to engage in revisionist history and redefine the nazis in the face of what the majority of the experts think, right?

It's either an amazing display of delusion or an amazing display of balls to then accuse everyone else of doing exactly what you're trying to do.
 

nehalem256

Lifer
Apr 13, 2012
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You realize that you're trying to engage in revisionist history and redefine the nazis in the face of what the majority of the experts think, right?

It's either an amazing display of delusion or an amazing display of balls to then accuse everyone else of doing exactly what you're trying to do.

I posted what Hitler stood for:
In the 1930s, Hitler was widely viewed as just another protectionist central planner who recognized the supposed failure of the free market and the need for nationally guided economic development. Proto-Keynesian socialist economist Joan Robinson wrote that "Hitler found a cure against unemployment before Keynes was finished explaining it."

What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits.
http://mises.org/daily/5765/Hitlers-Economics

If he was running for President you would probably vote for him.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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I posted what Hitler stood for:


If he was running for President you would probably vote for him.

Yeah and then the silly guy started testing out all kinds of weapons during the Spanish Civil War, mass production, started doing crazy speed and a secret Master Race thing in the background and ran around killing people nonstop.

Read some Ernest Hemingway someday.

Sounds a bit like what ISIL trying to promote atm, they just aren't as slick about it as coverage of events happening in real time are a lot better than they were back in the day.
 
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nehalem256

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Yeah and then the silly guy started testing out al kinds of weapons during the Spanish Civil War, mass production, started doing crazy speed and a secret Master Race thing in the background and ran around killing people nonstop.

Sounds a bit like what ISIL trying to promote atm, they just aren't as slick about it as coverage of events happening in real time are a lot better tha they were back in the day.

Whats funny is progressives supported eugenics back in Hitler's day. Look up Planned Parenthood.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Yeah and then the silly guy started testing out al kinds of weapons during the Spanish Civil War, mass production, started doing crazy speed and a secret Master Race thing in the background and ran around killing people nonstop.

Sounds a bit like what ISIL trying to promote atm, they just aren't as slick about it as coverage of events happening in real time are a lot better tha they were back in the day.

Don't bother with him, I finally put him on ignore.

He's not rational and he's not trying to engage honestly. Just wait for him to be banned.
 

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
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You realize that you're trying to engage in revisionist history and redefine the nazis in the face of what the majority of the experts think, right?

It's either an amazing display of delusion or an amazing display of balls to then accuse everyone else of doing exactly what you're trying to do.

You are out of your mind. I am defining the Nazis by exactly what they claimed they stood for. It's well documented. They are anti-capitalism, pro-socialism and anti-communism. If you think that is conservatism more than liberalism then it's you that is engaging in revisionist history and redefining the Nazis.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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You are out of your mind. I am defining the Nazis by exactly what they claimed they stood for. It's well documented. They are anti-capitalism, pro-socialism and anti-communism. If you think that is conservatism more than liberalism then it's you that is engaging in revisionist history and redefining the Nazis.

You are trying to engage in revisionist history in the face of expert opinion on the issue and then declare that everyone else is doing what you're doing.

Hell, this is the first post where you've even been honest enough to (slightly) acknowledge that the nazis defined themselves by anti-communism. I guess the most horrific war of annihilation that the world has ever seen was too big for even an extremely motivated reasoner to ignore, huh.
 
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Oh so you mean like when you read "majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as being a far-right" and take that as gospel when in fact they are self proclaimed as being pro-Socialism and hated capitalism and even called themselves the National Socialist German Workers' Party?

Ya, I am the one just reading things and not thinking about them.

Other than the fact that they were scary and killed a lot of Jews it seems like you really don't know anything about the Nazis. They were *not* a socialist party in any way, shape or form.
 

Vic

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Other than the fact that they were scary and killed a lot of Jews it seems like you really don't know anything about the Nazis. They were *not* a socialist party in any way, shape or form.
They were National Socialists, which means that the socialism extended only to "good Germans." All others were to be exploited, killed, or both.
 
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Whats funny is progressives supported eugenics back in Hitler's day. Look up Planned Parenthood.

Herbert Hoover, Winston Churchill, G.K. Chesterton, George Bernard Shaw, Prescott Bush, Henry Ford, The Carnegie Institute (and family), The Rockefeller Foundation (and family), The Harriman family (railroad money), Sir Francis Galton, Teddy Roosevelt, Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

What do the above have in common other than not being either 'progressives' or Margaret Sanger?
 
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sportage

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Liberal = Jew hater?
Where did you learn math? Obviously on the street, along with sex.

ANyway...
An interesting tidbit of news I will grant you that. Minus the personal commentary.
Hitler also created the superhighway the Germany's autobahn, and the Volkswagen, so he spent some of his time doing other things besides coming up wait ways to exterminate people.

I would think someone would buy the lakeside home, refurbish it, and turn it into some tourist thing. Of possibly a hotel.
Im sure there are people that would love to say they stayed overnight in Joseph Goebbels lakeside love nest.
 
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They were National Socialists, which means that the socialism extended only to "good Germans." All others were to be exploited, killed, or both.

They simply redefined the word/concept to meet their political need.

From the man himself (Joseph Goebbels)

"Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!"

http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/haken32.htm


They really had their own 'special' view of the world, being the unique and wonderful snowflakes that they felt themselves to be.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Absolutely not.




What is heritage? Where is the line between heritage and hate?

That house is part of German history. Should it be torn down, or preserved like some of the southern plantation homes?

Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. What kind of shape is Monticello in?

Last time I went there it looked pretty good.


Of course, Jefferson didnt gas millions of slaves, so if you have to ask where the line is, I think thats it right there.
 

Texashiker

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Nazism arose as Germany was in a deep depression. It did not arise out of a high-minded attempt to regulate the economy, it was simply pitting rich against poor for political gain. The poor were unhappy with their circumstances and the Nazis gave them a scapegoat: The rich. That scapegoat later became the Jews, homosexuals, the institutionalized, and the Gypsies.

This is conservatism.

I respectfully disagree. That is not conservatism, that is classic bleeding heart liberalism.

To blame someone else for your problems is liberalism.

It is not your fault you are in jail, you are product of your upbringing.

It is not your fault you got a junk degree, the bankers are keeping you down.

Occupy wall street - if you have time to sit around, you have time to look for a job.

You still have not answered the question, would you buy the home?


He seemed to like kids

You do know he and his wife killed their children?


Last time I went there it looked pretty good.

Of course, Jefferson didnt gas millions of slaves, so if you have to ask where the line is, I think thats it right there.

The line between heritage and hate is how many people died?
 
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fskimospy

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I respectfully disagree. That is not conservatism, that is classic bleeding heart liberalism.

To blame someone else for your problems is liberalism.

It is not your fault you are in jail, you are product of your upbringing.

It is not your fault you got a junk degree, the bankers are keeping you down.

Occupy wall street - if you have time to sit around, you have time to look for a job.

You still have not answered the question, would you buy the home?




You do know he and his wife killed their children?




The line between heritage and hate is how many people died?

Says the guy who constantly whines about how oppressed he is.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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Says the guy who constantly whines about how oppressed he is.

Says the guy who proudly proclaims "it is legal" in his defense of heinous acts.

So tell us, since what Joseph did was legal at the time, you would buy the home wouldn't you?

Which direction does your moral compass point?
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Says the guy who proudly proclaims "it is legal" in his defense of heinous acts.

So tell us, since what Joseph did was legal at the time, you would buy the home wouldn't you?

Which direction does your moral compass point?

Whine some more, you shitbag troll.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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Whine some more, you shitbag troll.

Your compass points to whatever is legal at the time. So you should have no problem buying the home.

Maybe get married, have some kids? Maybe your kids will walk next to the memory of Josephs kids? Set the baby bed in Josephs office where he wrote his speeches?

Does that idea bother you? It shouldn't. You proudly proclaim the most vial acts justified because "they are legal."
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Would you buy the home?




To quote Matthew Modine, my comments and questions are a reflection of the duality of man.

At the root is the question why do we think the way we do?

Um...so if I'm in the market for homes "owned by prominent World War 2 figures", I think I'd much rather own Chartwell, thank you very much.


Would you but a AUDI or Lamborghini?
 
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