Lance Armstrong Positif!

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Link (In French)

Just out in French sports news...

Basically says new tests on his blood samples from 1999 (the first he won), obtained after six different stages, test positive for a synthetic hormone...

Let's see if fox or cnn get a hang on this.

 

[MaverikV]

The french did it. I don't believe them.

They're just jealous. Also, cycling is boring.

 

[Feldenak]

Did they not test the blood in 1999?

 

[dugweb]

6 years after the fact?! please... this is worthless

 

[NickelTitanium]

Viva la France

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: MaverikV
The french did it. I don't believe them.

They're just jealous. Also, cycling is boring.

:thumbsup:

 

[MoPHo]

why are they testing his blood from 6 years ago? and how do they still have blood from 6 years ago? do they just stock pile it and wait?

 

[BW86]

Originally posted by: MaverikV
The french did it. I don't believe them.

They're just jealous. Also, cycling is boring.

 

[everman]

What? Soap?

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: everman
What? Soap?

hahaha

 

[MaverikV]

I was in Europe recently. I am by no means the kind of American the world pictures when they picture an American. I speak fluent French and am 1/3 french. I am moderate both concerning politics and general life. I am rather calm and mild mannered. I can safely say that 99% of the people I met there were nothing but rude to me. Also, Paris was filthy. Most of the French bashing that goes on is ignorant, but from personal experience, I have absolutely no qualms with telling the entirety of modern day France to go fsck itself.

 

[NoToRiOuS1]

armstrong rocks even if he used hormones or whatever....THE GUY HAD CANCER FOR PETE'S SAKE!!! how many other cancer survivours do you see performing at his level...thats what i through frenchie(directed to not all french but only the ones that are annoying and jealous and whinny about a guy who had cancer actually using some assistance to win a bike race).

<--- avid mountain biker who met him while he was training in NC. never seen a biker of his caliber. he's amazing at what he does and deserves everything he has gotten in the past few years. :thumbsup:

 

[Mucker]

They need to reflect more on all the American blood left on their soil to liberate their ass. Freakin INGRATES that they are....

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[OrByte]

GOODNESS GRACIOUS!!

This actually makes the french look worse than armstrong!

 

[Feldenak]

Is there an English translation of that French page?

 

[Sheepathon]

Silly peasants

 

[MoPHo]

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Is there an English translation of that French page?

Freetranslation.com gives:
I never had recourse to forbidden products, that this be the epo or all other illicit substances. » (THE equipe of April 10 2001). Facing this affirmation, many reiterated, matching times sometimes of a « this is at you, journalists, to determine you, to say if I lie or if I say the truth » (in these same columns, July 22 1999), THE equipe is today some measures to contradict the seven times conqueror of the Turn of France, and of him to reply. Yes, recent analyses practiced on samples dateing back to the first France Turn victorious of the American in 1999, show that Launches Armstrong already consumed products drugs.

After four months of investigation, of which the exit revealed to be itself posterior of a month to his seventh one consecrates on the Fields elysées and to his athletic retirement, the facts are indisputable: the leader of Discovery Channel, during six seasons at the head of the Postal us, already used uniformly forbidden products in 1999 and would have therefore lied on this non-consumption in competition. By , at the time of to the coming from to -of the-, 1999, and of - (), - (), - of boo (10e), galmier - flour () and Castrate - gaudens (14e), , analyzed by of screening of (LNDD), are marked by The bias of an increase of the population of red globules, allows a better muscular oxygenation and a possible gain of performances than the physiologistes value at 30% maximum.

 

[dug777]

meh, i can't take anything the french say seriously...

 

[OulOat]

After Armstrong survived cancer and raced again in 1998, he found himself unable to compete at a high level, and ultimately stopped racing altogether after abandoning a Paris-Nice race exhausted and looking very much as one would expect a man who has undergone cancer treatment to look. At that point, Armstrong went into seclusion with coach Chris Carmichael and emerged the next year to win the Tour de France. In the space of a few months, he had gone from collapsing by the side of the road to handily winning one of the top three cycling races in the world. The label that the press, fellow riders, and amazed fans put on this feat was unanimous: "It's a Miracle".

If this is true, then he is very suspicious.

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[darkswordsman17]

This crap is getting sickening.

Whats with all the freaking witch hunts going on anymore? It seems to me the world wants to tear down every accomplishment ever.

Yet, people are content to turn a blind eye to some of the real injustices of the world. Yeah, makes sense to me.

Why can't people live their own damn lives and stop worrying so damn much about everybody else?

Of course if you keep looking and looking and do new tests for new things then you're surely going to find something eventually.

Not saying it was a good thing if Lance did use illegal substances, or the whole baseball debacle, but come on, this is just getting out of hand.

/rant

 

[NoToRiOuS1]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
This crap is getting sickening.

Whats with all the freaking witch hunts going on anymore? It seems to me the world wants to tear down every accomplishment ever.

Yet, people are content to turn a blind eye to some of the real injustices of the world. Yeah, makes sense to me.

Why can't people live their own damn lives and stop worrying so damn much about everybody else?

Of course if you keep looking and looking and do new tests for new things then you're surely going to find something eventually.

Not saying it was a good thing if Lance did use illegal substances, or the whole baseball debacle, but come on, this is just getting out of hand.

/rant

qft

 

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Just heard on the news a little bit more... apparently back in 1999 drug tests for "EPO" (a synthetic hormone?) were not perfected/effective/accurate and EPO was widely used by many of the Tour cyclists.

 

[C'DaleRider]

I find it odd that Armstrong, if this is actually correct, had access to something that would effectively hide the EPO use while the French national champion, Jalabert, was unable to access the same substance and was caught in, I believe, 2003.

Strange that Jalabert, four years after this supposed EPO use by Armstrong, was found positive for EPO use. Stranger still is the fact that while there had been a "substance" out there for years before he was caught and banned for two years from competition that would have effectively masked his use of EPO, he and his multi-million dollar French cycling team was unable to locate any of it. Guess the French are stupidier than anyone can imagine.

 

[oboeguy]

Originally posted by: OulOat

After Armstrong survived cancer and raced again in 1998, he found himself unable to compete at a high level, and ultimately stopped racing altogether after abandoning a Paris-Nice race exhausted and looking very much as one would expect a man who has undergone cancer treatment to look. At that point, Armstrong went into seclusion with coach Chris Carmichael and emerged the next year to win the Tour de France. In the space of a few months, he had gone from collapsing by the side of the road to handily winning one of the top three cycling races in the world. The label that the press, fellow riders, and amazed fans put on this feat was unanimous: "It's a Miracle".

If this is true, then he is very suspicious.

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That article if full of the same crap as L.A. Confidential. Does it even state that Lance was specially introduced to Ferrari by his good friend Eddie Merckx, "greatest cyclist ever"? Of course not, because that would make it sounds too legit. Then there's the wording of how the French investigation was dropped in 2000... pure yellow journalism. Also, the "positive" test for "cortisone" is crap because 1) what he was supposedly positive for wasn't banned then (it wasn't cortisone per se), 2) was in trivial, trace amounts and 3) there was a Rx for it. I could go on...

 

[oboeguy]

Originally posted by: C'DaleRider
I find it odd that Armstrong, if this is actually correct, had access to something that would effectively hide the EPO use while the French national champion, Jalabert, was unable to access the same substance and was caught in, I believe, 2003.

Strange that Jalabert, four years after this supposed EPO use by Armstrong, was found positive for EPO use. Stranger still is the fact that while there had been a "substance" out there for years before he was caught and banned for two years from competition that would have effectively masked his use of EPO, he and his multi-million dollar French cycling team was unable to locate any of it. Guess the French are stupidier than anyone can imagine.

I don't think Ja-Ja ever tested positive for anything. He was a great champion. However, the French hero Richard Virenque was at the heart of the 1998 Festina doping scandal which nearly destroyed pro cycling. He eventually admitted to doping and went on to become the favorite rider of the French (heck even I like him).