Land in front of my house is being turned into a Home Depot

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DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Citrix
your property value will go up dont worry about it. just smile and say thank you and be on your way.

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Enjoy living there, in 10 years you will make a ton of money on your investment.
That is now prime real estate.

No wonder so many people in the world are unhappy - you'd trade 10 years of your life putting up with the extra noise and extra traffic, just to make some money selling your home?? 10 years is a pretty significant chunk of a person's life. Personally, I'd opt for peace and quiet (and I have.)
 

NoShangriLa

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The HD, Costco, and Staples that built in my town 7-8 years ago turn the emptied surrounding rocky properties into a gold mine. Many of the properties 2-3 acres with a house priced at the time was around 200K-300K, and now they all splits into 1/8-1/9 acre empty lots that are price at around 250K each. (Market value in my town has gone up 95% in the last 10 years).

There was a mall that grew up about 3-4 years prior that is 2 miles down the same area and the result was very positive, however the value didn?t go up so dramatically.
 

SampSon

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I would have to see a plat map of your property in relation to the lot being developed.
I would also need a road map with the most travelled throughfares marked as well as the DOT impact study summary.
Then I would have to visit the site and see what it looks like now and visit other sites of similar nature to yours and see how they look with a comm. dev. in front of them.
Then I would need to pull up sales info and historical assessment info on simliar plots that have a simliar development situation like yours.
After that I would give you a range of possibilities for value influences based on the best information I have and then bill you thousands of dollars for my professional study.

The town that I live in is already considered prime real estate. It has some of the most expensive homes in the region. (mine is not one of them, unfortunately). It also has the best schools in the area.


Edit: I like the idea of having them pay me the difference in property values. That way, even if I sell the house for less, I won't take much of a hit.
In my experience this development isn't going to cause any drastic decrease in property values. "Property values" are also a very subjective thing based on their highest and best use to the intended user. So you can't really get concrete information like "That development will definitely make your property decrease in perceived value to the tune of $50,000". Few residential appraisers/assessors would ever give you a pinpointed number of possible value change, there is too much liability in that. Commercial guys might be more inclined, but they will also state that there is in no way a guarantee that any of their conclusions are correct.

Don't even begin to entertain ideas of having the developer "pay the differential in property values". That's just not going to happen, ever. The only true point in that line of logic is that they could possibly buy you out at some point in time. Though from my experience you're property isn't going to be considered viable land for purchase in this developers eyes. If you were even a faint idea then the planners would have contacted you a long time ago.

Here are the influences I see from my experience in the profession. You've stated that your area holds some of the most sought after property in the area. The values of the houses don't always have an effect on property values until the area is above 75% developed, so take that out of mind. The commercial development of your area is a near sure-fire sign of positive development and increased desireabililty of your area. Commerical development usually directly follows residential development, and in some rarer cases, leads it. At a macro level all signs point to increased values in your area, which includes your land.

Now on a micro level there could be different stories. The micro level is harder to pinpoint due to the different driving forces in the typical homebuyer. Some people may find your property less desireable due to the destructed view of the back of a commercial development. Some people will find your site more desireable due to it's newly found central location to all this new development and potential for future development. Some many not care about any of the perceived external influences due to their strong desire to own your specific house. I could go on for a while about the various influences in the eyes of the typical purchaser.

In the end it will most likely be a positive result for the area and you. The area is, if you're truthful about current values, experiencing rapid growth and expanding its civil/commerical infastructure to accomodate heavy residential development. You shouldn't have much to worry about, except mabey over-crowding in the future.

You can take your fight to the developers, city counsel, DOT, county planning board, whoever you like and they will listen to what you have to say. It may not influence them in their plans at all, but in the past a large public uprising has caused commerical developers to look elsewhere. Though keep in mind that fighting development, in a value/business sense, is foolish and couter-productive.
 

venkman

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Property Value shouldn't be an issue unless crime rate increases but the biggest issues will be your piece of mind and the fact that your neighboorhood could be zoned and taken away from you under emminent domain laws if another store or two want to move into town.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: JeepinEd
Originally posted by: Kreon
We had an old building that was a Sears accross my street

Like you, we faced the loading docks.
When it was ronovated, one of things that was demanded by the neighbors was essentially a privacy fence put up around the back of the building to blot out noise and the bad sights
Also look into city noise ordinances... You might be able to limit when the trucks can be there and the level of noise they make

Like most said, your property will most likely go up, even with the back facing.
Especially if business starts to go up in your area

Good Luck

That's a good idea, I'll definately bring that up with them tonight, along with some sort of compensation for loss of value.

A few of my neighbors are also talking about moving. All those homes selling at the same time definately won't help the situation.

Vegetation is actually better, but if you are in the desert...

Also make SURE that they are responsible for maintaining the fence (painting, sagging, graffiti, etc). Also make SURE there is a mechanism that is fair that determines when it needs to be repainted/repaired, otherwise they could ignore it.
 

RU482

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1. wait for the area to develop
2. move your house off the property
3. sell your property as commercial
4. profit
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
No wonder so many people in the world are unhappy - you'd trade 10 years of your life putting up with the extra noise and extra traffic, just to make some money selling your home?? 10 years is a pretty significant chunk of a person's life. Personally, I'd opt for peace and quiet (and I have.)

I live on the main road through town. Across the road from me are several businesses. Trucks drive by all day and night. I don't notice the noise. I don't care that there are businesses across the road, because I don't find their appearance offensive. And I love that I don't have to drive more than a mile to reach just about anyplace I want to shop other than Costco and Target (about 5 miles for those). To each his own.
 

alphatarget1

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B!tch and complain at every city meeting on the project.

If you get enough people to do it they might back off.
 

bleuless

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why do people think this is a negative thing? if where you live had cows, almost any kind of change is a good thing and will raise desirability of your property.
 

senseamp

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You are gonna have hombres hanging out near the Home Depot. They can write esses for your kids
 

JeepinEd

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SampSon,
You bring up some valid points. I figured the developers compensating the property owners would be too good to be true.

The thing about our town is that people pay the premium property prices and taxes in order to live away from all the traffic and businesses. We have a small main street with all the stores we need (all mom and pop type stores). We also have big box stores just 10 minutes away. Putting these giant retail centers smack in the middle of a residential community would ruin the the character of our community.

We had our second community meeting last night. I found out some interesting facts.
Only 6 people showed up to the first one, because nobody knew about it. Very few people received notifications and the notifications themselves, were were vague about the date, time and location of the meetings. Last night, we had and auditorium full of angry home owners (thanks to a few people who took it upon themselves to spread the word).

There was a city council meeting to talk about this development last night as well. It was scheduled at the exact same time as the environmental impact community meeting, but on the opposite side of town. Hmmm how convenient.

Walmart purchased one of the properties two years ago, knowing that it was classified as residential property.

The school across the street from that property is now getting a new auditorium thanks to a donation by..... Walmart.

Our local water district has been pressuring everyone to cut down water usage and has also threatened to increase rates because there is such a water shortage. Two days ago, they approved the water grants for the retail centers - A Walmart w/ garden center, A Home Depot w/ garden center and a target, plus over 20 other stores and restaurants.

I need to find out who will be making the final approval and get the town to start a letter writing campaign. I have a feeling, though, that this will be an excercise in futility.

Edit: I forgot to mention, I also found out that the City of Lancaster annexed the land directly in front of me, and the land caddy corner to it, where they plan to put up the Super Walmart. (I live in the town of Quartz Hill). This makes things even more confusing.


 

tw1164

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Go bury some indian arrow heads and artifacts.

that does not work. it takes more then some arrow heads and such.

You have use endangered frogs and fruitflys
 

JeepinEd

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There are some Red Tailed Hawks nesting in one of the trees, but I don't think they are endangered.
 

NoShangriLa

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Don?t sweat the little stuffs.

6 years ago a housing development bribed my mom town council by donated over 600K to the council, 20 acres of parkland, an elementary school, and built a sewer system. And, the land was rezoned for 850 single resident development even those most of the residents protested. Thanks to the development the tax on my mom property has gone up more than 4X, and her property also worth more than X4 of what it was.

Phase 3 (last phase) of the development is coming to the tale end and is now on the border of my mom property. And, they are currently buying votes from the town council to rezone the 6 properties (over 200 acres) across the street from my mom that they recently acquired to subdivide to 1/4 acre lots.

My mom purchase her 33 acres 15 years ago for a bit more than 200K and now as is price is well over 1.2 millions. Raw 1/4 acre lot (with trees) in the area is going for 120K each.

Be happy with your win fall and purchase another place once the development complete. The town council have vested interest in increase their personal holding, therefor they want the town to grow & properties value to go up.

 
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