Land Rover Vs Motorbikes in NYC

[HamburgerBoy]

Here's a demonstration of how much Dari cares about costs and the well-being of others

 

[Dari]

Wow, just wow.

I can't believe what I just saw. If you are a member of the jury, you are supposed to look for facts and evidences of the case. NOT about who has the money to pay/deep pocket.

I can't believe you just said that out loud in public. D:

Have you ever been in court? It's all a song and dance. You have people lying. People telling the truth. Then you have the cold hard facts. A lie is no different than the truth, imho, since the latter is what one truly believes to be facts. I look at the facts and I see Lien hitting a motorcyclist. Then I see Lien speeding off. Then I wonder, WTF, as a taxpayer, should I have to foot the bill (if this guy lives) for his welfare and those of his children? Why can't Lien chip in since he was partly responsible? He's not losing his freedom, just money. Guilty.

 

[Svnla]

Have you ever been in court? It's all a song and dance. You have people lying. People telling the truth. Then you have the cold hard facts. A lie is no different than the truth, imho, since the latter is what one truly believes to be facts. I look at the facts and I see Lien hitting a motorcyclist. Then I see Lien speeding off. Then I wonder, WTF, as a taxpayer, should I have to foot the bill (if this guy lives) for his welfare and those of his children? Why can't Lien chip in since he was partly responsible? He's not losing his freedom, just money. Guilty.

Learn to read. I said I was a member of a jury on a civil case a few years ago on my previous post.


We the jury (except one) found the defendant not guilty because the defendant did nothing wrong based on the facts and evidences of the case. NOT because he has deep pocket (he was the CEO of a major real estate company). As we should have done based on the law.

So a rich woman was about to be rape, she did shot the perp and wound him and also hurt his buddy severely. So now she is guilty and has to pay because she "was partially responsible" as you said. Gotcha.

Well, I tried but you are hopeless, especially the statement of not the facts/evidences but who has deep pocket/money. Just as the Brits say "God Save The Queen".

Ok, who is up next to debate with Dari? I am heading out, can't handle much more fail from Dari.

 

[ABC10]

I'm sorry Lien did not think to made a Left Swipe when they were riding beside him (notice the cowards did not get in front of the RR again) which would have tumbled a few over and help have those bunched up tumble over the downed bikes. That would have caught the "riders" attention.

 

[OutHouse]

Here's a demonstration of how much Dari cares about costs and the well-being of others

god damn, what a scumbag. there are no statue of limitations for arson.

 

[yuchai]

@ Dari
It's interesting to me that you are similar to Lien in many ways (based on your info about working in Wall Street, having a wife & kids, and actually around the same age as well), but you feel no compassion at all towards him. In fact, you seem to hate his guts. Why?

When it comes down to it, you seem to think that because he was following a bit too close to that bike for a few seconds (you admit to doing the same thing sometimes yourself) that he deserved everything that came after it? Really?

Here's another simple way to think about it. If either the bikers, or Lien, were not on the road that day, the incident would never have happened. As a NYC driver yourself, who would you pick?

 

[Ichinisan]

@ Dari
It's interesting to me that you are similar to Lien in many ways (based on your info about working in Wall Street, having a wife & kids, and actually around the same age as well), but you feel no compassion at all towards him. In fact, you seem to hate his guts. Why?

When it comes down to it, you seem to think that because he was following a bit too close to that bike for a few seconds (you admit to doing the same thing sometimes yourself) that he deserved everything that came after it? Really?

Here's another simple way to think about it. If either the bikers, or Lien, were not on the road that day, the incident would never have happened. As a NYC driver yourself, who would you pick?

The SUV driver wasn't "following too close" at all. The bike cut-in too close and immediately tried to stop (to shut down traffic illegally and do stunts / tricks in the middle of the highway).

 

[DVad3r]

I see aggressive people in cars all the times trying to pass bikes, cutting them off, riding their ass, etc. I guess we don't know the full story, but from my perspective the guy got what he deserved. And you have to be total asshole and have absolute disregard for anyone plowing through bikes like that. It's not like they were going to kill him, but after, I didn't blame them at all.

 

[Zim Hosein]

I see aggressive people in cars all the times trying to pass bikes, cutting them off, riding their ass, etc. I guess we don't know the full story, but from my perspective the guy got what he deserved. And you have to be total asshole and have absolute disregard for anyone plowing through bikes like that. It's not like they were going to kill him, but after, I didn't blame them at all.

 

[Broheim]

I see aggressive people in cars all the times trying to pass bikes, cutting them off, riding their ass, etc. I guess we don't know the full story, but from my perspective the guy got what he deserved. And you have to be total asshole and have absolute disregard for anyone plowing through bikes like that. It's not like they were going to kill him, but after, I didn't blame them at all.

uhm, yeah we do...


you're an idiot, go watch all the videos and read all the articles. you're just plain wrong.

 

[Dari]

@ Dari
It's interesting to me that you are similar to Lien in many ways (based on your info about working in Wall Street, having a wife & kids, and actually around the same age as well), but you feel no compassion at all towards him. In fact, you seem to hate his guts. Why?

When it comes down to it, you seem to think that because he was following a bit too close to that bike for a few seconds (you admit to doing the same thing sometimes yourself) that he deserved everything that came after it? Really?

Here's another simple way to think about it. If either the bikers, or Lien, were not on the road that day, the incident would never have happened. As a NYC driver yourself, who would you pick?

Why? Because the man is seriously critically injured and is nothing but a vegetable now. Lien was selfish in so many ways and a lot of the damage that occurred here could have been mitigated or altogether avoided had he even cared about the people around him. He didn't and, imho, somebody has to pay for this incident. Mieses happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I would feel less bad for Mieses if it was him that allegedly brake-checked the RR but it wasn't. I would've also felt less bad if it was him that was assaulting the RR or Lien but it wasn't. He just happened to be in that one place. And assholes here are celebrating his injuries? How callous can y'all be? He may not be a stand-up guy but, like Lien, he as a mother, father, child and S.O. that loves him. His lower societal standing does not make him less of a victim in this incident. That is why I believe he (Lien) should pay. I am almost certain Lien will come to a settlement with the Mieses family considering the gravity of the situation.

I don't understand the vitriol against me and others who show sympathy for the other victim in this disaster of an event. And I hate the herd mentality on this board and elsewhere that is not unlike that from the bikers. IMHO, once Lien comes to his senses, he will acknowledge that he could've done things a bit differently and that is all I am saying...

EDIT: Just because I do the same thing (tailgating) doesn't make it right. If you've ever driven in NYC you know that you have to be aggressive or else someone will cut in front of you. But you still have to be careful because any mistake is something you have to own. Lien fucked up and must pay.

EDIT2: Who would I pick? It doesn't matter. I've seen two rich wild animals come to blows over a parking spot. Sometimes you just have to think long-term and consider the consequences of your actions.

 

[Dari]

The SUV driver wasn't "following too close" at all. The bike cut-in too close and immediately tried to stop (to shut down traffic illegally and do stunts / tricks in the middle of the highway).

Is that what Christopher Cruz told you?

 

[Ichinisan]

is that what christopher cruz told you?

THE FUCKING VIDEO!!!

The biker doesn't even leave a single car length between them when he cuts-in and immediately tries to stop.

 

[Engineer]

THE FUCKING VIDEO!!!

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LOL...You're wasting your time.

 

[olds]

Serious question: why are you guys engaging Dari in intercourse?
If you stop responding to him, he'll go away.

 

[Doppel]

Here's a demonstration of how much Dari cares about costs and the well-being of others

Ah, mental problems FTL.

 

[BUTCH1]

Why? Because the man is seriously critically injured and is nothing but a vegetable now. Lien was selfish in so many ways and a lot of the damage that occurred here could have been mitigated or altogether avoided had he even cared about the people around him. He didn't and, imho, somebody has to pay for this incident. Mieses happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I would feel less bad for Mieses if it was him that allegedly brake-checked the RR but it wasn't. I would've also felt less bad if it was him that was assaulting the RR or Lien but it wasn't. He just happened to be in that one place. And assholes here are celebrating his injuries? How callous can y'all be? He may not be a stand-up guy but, like Lien, he as a mother, father, child and S.O. that loves him. His lower societal standing does not make him less of a victim in this incident. That is why I believe he (Lien) should pay. I am almost certain Lien will come to a settlement with the Mieses family considering the gravity of the situation.

I don't understand the vitriol against me and others who show sympathy for the other victim in this disaster of an event. And I hate the herd mentality on this board and elsewhere that is not unlike that from the bikers. IMHO, once Lien comes to his senses, he will acknowledge that he could've done things a bit differently and that is all I am saying...

EDIT: Just because I do the same thing (tailgating) doesn't make it right. If you've ever driven in NYC you know that you have to be aggressive or else someone will cut in front of you. But you still have to be careful because any mistake is something you have to own. Lien fucked up and must pay.

EDIT2: Who would I pick? It doesn't matter. I've seen two rich wild animals come to blows over a parking spot. Sometimes you just have to think long-term and consider the consequences of your actions.

First off, it's more than "societal" standing, as in net worth, Mieses hasn't had ANY kind of license since 1999 and NEVER had a motorcycle license in his entire life, let's review his character, convicted of,: distribution of cocaine, possession of a firearm without a permit, knowingly receiving stolen property, attaching plates, destruction of property, resisting arrest, too many driving charges to list. Get the bigger picture now?, he was a criminal dirtbag, plain and simple and the story he told of "I was trying to get them to stop attacking the family" is utter bullshit. To insist Lien should have stayed stopped and possibly get killed OR his family injured is beyond stupid, yea, reason with a thug mob of outlaw bikers that are busy destroying your vehicle and slashing your tires, that makes sense..

 

[ABC10]

Hopefully this incident catches the attention of bikers nation wide. Maybe it is not so safe to gang up on a car or truck. Those cycles are easy to tip over and as always with these donor cycles, people get hurt when they do. Being in front of an RR on a cycle is stupid and these guys are paying the piper and price for their stupidity. The RR driver should have side swiped them when they were congregated next to the car resulting in a domino falling of them, their motorcycles and their gang running into them - wow, what a sight that would have been. Meise would have lots of company in the hospital.

 

[olds]

Hopefully this incident catches the attention of bikers nation wide. Maybe it is not so safe to gang up on a car or truck. Those cycles are easy to tip over and as always with these donor cycles, people get hurt when they do. Being in front of an RR on a cycle is stupid and these guys are paying the piper and price for their stupidity. The RR driver should have side swiped them when they were congregated next to the car resulting in a domino falling of them, their motorcycles and their gang running into them - wow, what a sight that would have been. Meise would have lots of company in the hospital.

Is this how rednecks in Nevada do it?

 

[ABC10]

Is this how rednecks in Nevada do it?

Well, we don't have rednecks in Nevada and certainly not in Sin City, but it is how this Emergency RN with 2 Master Degrees would try and protect my family and my self from these thugs. Can't hurt seeing a tangle of downed cycles and bikers.
Bikers, "Oh but we were just ganging up on you and the children trying to terrorize you'all. Don't you know who we are"?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I dunno about rednecks, but this how this RN with 2 Master Degrees would do it.

And how anyone with the slightest understanding of physics would do it.

 

[ABC10]

And how anyone with the slightest understanding of physics would do it.

Tipping a two wheeled motorcycle, with or without a rider, is easy causing a Domino Effect on those cycles and riders not only near by but those racing to get into the fray. They would turn into a tangle of bikes and bodies with minor or severe injuries. Tarmac and cement ain't forgiving of frail bodies.
Don't need no physics to understand that. It's easy. We see the results of that everyday in the Emergency Department.

 

[Perknose]

The RR driver should have side swiped them when they were congregated next to the car resulting in a domino falling of them, their motorcycles and their gang running into them - wow, what a sight that would have been. Meise would have lots of company in the hospital.

And how anyone with the slightest understanding of physics would do it.

It's not ABC's understanding of physics I question.

All internet tough guy rhetoric aside, Lien will prevail in any possible civil suit because he was merely attempting to escape, not inflict maximum damage.

 

[olds]

It's not ABC's understanding of physics I question.

All internet tough guy rhetoric aside, Lien will prevail in any possible civil suit because he was merely attempting to escape, not inflict maximum damage.

This

 

[ABC10]

It's not ABC's understanding of physics I question.

All internet tough guy rhetoric aside, Lien will prevail in any possible civil suit because he was merely attempting to escape, not inflict maximum damage.

I am not an internet tough guy but protecting my family comes above all else. We do what we gonna do. Escape coupled with pro active motorcycle swipe was perhaps a better solution to the thugs. A little interference in their gang up tactics would have helped him more and certainly slow them down. Not always is there safety in numbers and not on a two wheeled bike. I agree totally that Lien will prevail and hope these guys get the max.