Land Rover Vs Motorbikes in NYC

[HumblePie]

Here is what I think about this whole ordeal.

A) Bikers are complete idiots
B) guy in SUV was in an unfortunate situation that involved these idiots and did his best to get away from them.

I would've probably called police while on the road and stayed on the highway though.......

What SUV driver did was not right HOWEVER, I would do the same under those circumstances.

No, what the SUV driver did WAS right. Stop blaming the victim. SUV driver was minding his own business when the bikers randomly decided to harass him by brake checking. The biker brake checked on an SUV that didn't have enough stopping room to not avoid hitting the biker. The SUV couldn't swerve to avoid contact with the biker that was doing the brake check stunt because the SUV driver would have side swipped other bikers. So the SUV driver slammed on the brakes but still bumped the idiot biker that did the brake check stunt. All the bikers then stop. Some get off their bikes and start beating up on the SUV. If the bikers had approached the SUV calmly after the "accident" of the SUV hitting the idiot biker doing the brake check, the SUV driver wouldn't have tried to flee by driving through them. Instead the bikers before he attempts to flee attack his SUV and slash his tires. The bikers at that point are committing assault and are showing their willingness to use violence.

Once the driver was being assaulted, he is legally allowed to either try to flee the scene or use force to defend himself. By driving OVER the bikers, what he did was RIGHT. Even if he pulled out a gun and started shooting that would also be RIGHT and proper behavior. People have a fucking right to defend their lives and the lives of their love ones by ANY means necessary. Anyone that doesn't think that is a massive fucking idiot.

 

[Incorruptible]

Luckily if this happens to me in my state, the moment a biker punches through my window I'm justified putting lead through his dome.

The driver of the Range Rover won't get charged with anything. In fact, the police should be charging some bikers for breaking traffic laws and assault.

That's exactly what should happen. If these guys try to break in the window then the driver should be able to shoot them.

Once they started chasing him after he ran them over he should have just turned around and run them all over. Going into the city wasn't a good idea and only hurt him.

I dare these punks to try that on me and there is no way they would have been able to beat me.

 

[Nintendesert]

No, what the SUV driver did WAS right. Stop blaming the victim. SUV driver was minding his own business when the bikers randomly decided to harass him by brake checking. The biker brake checked on an SUV that didn't have enough stopping room to not avoid hitting the biker. The SUV couldn't swerve to avoid contact with the biker that was doing the brake check stunt because the SUV driver would have side swipped other bikers. So the SUV driver slammed on the brakes but still bumped the idiot biker that did the brake check stunt. All the bikers then stop. Some get off their bikes and start beating up on the SUV. If the bikers had approached the SUV commonly after the "accident" of the SUV hitting the idiot biker doing the brake check, the SUV driver wouldn't have tried to flee by driving through them. Instead the bikers before he attempts to flee attack his SUV and slash his tires. The bikers at that point are committing assault and are showing their willingness to use violence.

Once the driver was being assaulted, he is legally allowed to either try to flee the scene or use force to defend himself. By driving OVER the bikers, what he did was RIGHT. Even if he pulled out a gun and started shooting that would also be RIGHT and proper behavior. People have a fucking right to defend their lives and the lives of their love ones by ANY means necessary. Anyone that doesn't think that is a massive fucking idiot.

Absolutely. I don't understand what people think should have happened here. This guy even failed at the end and was left in a pool of his own blood and knifed.

I suppose it's just that some people are more willing to be victims than others.

 

[Schfifty Five]

That's exactly what should happen. If these guys try to break in the window then the driver should be able to shoot them.

Once they started chasing him after he ran them over he should have just turned around and run them all over. Going into the city wasn't a good idea and only hurt him.

I dare these punks to try that on me and there is no way they would have been able to beat me.

I know you're probably pissed at the events that transpired, I mean hell, who isn't? But c'mon, anyone can act like a bad ass behind a computer screen. In real life, you aren't going around expecting something as crazy as that to happen in a blink of an eye. Are you still going to be that bad ass and pull out your piece if the moment does arise?

And let's say you did have a gun and were able to put a bullet in the guy that breaks your window, don't you think the rest of those fools would have a gun too and would quite possibly kill you and your family?

 

[Schfifty Five]

No, what the SUV driver did WAS right. Stop blaming the victim. SUV driver was minding his own business when the bikers randomly decided to harass him by brake checking. The biker brake checked on an SUV that didn't have enough stopping room to not avoid hitting the biker. The SUV couldn't swerve to avoid contact with the biker that was doing the brake check stunt because the SUV driver would have side swipped other bikers. So the SUV driver slammed on the brakes but still bumped the idiot biker that did the brake check stunt. All the bikers then stop. Some get off their bikes and start beating up on the SUV. If the bikers had approached the SUV commonly after the "accident" of the SUV hitting the idiot biker doing the brake check, the SUV driver wouldn't have tried to flee by driving through them. Instead the bikers before he attempts to flee attack his SUV and slash his tires. The bikers at that point are committing assault and are showing their willingness to use violence.

Once the driver was being assaulted, he is legally allowed to either try to flee the scene or use force to defend himself. By driving OVER the bikers, what he did was RIGHT. Even if he pulled out a gun and started shooting that would also be RIGHT and proper behavior. People have a fucking right to defend their lives and the lives of their love ones by ANY means necessary. Anyone that doesn't think that is a massive fucking idiot.

Agreed.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Ahh, that was awesome! Kudos to the Range Rover driver!

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Also, LOL at the douche on the bike recording this with his iPad! :biggrin:

 

[Vdubchaos]

No, what the SUV driver did WAS right. Stop blaming the victim. SUV driver was minding his own business when the bikers randomly decided to harass him by brake checking. The biker brake checked on an SUV that didn't have enough stopping room to not avoid hitting the biker. The SUV couldn't swerve to avoid contact with the biker that was doing the brake check stunt because the SUV driver would have side swipped other bikers. So the SUV driver slammed on the brakes but still bumped the idiot biker that did the brake check stunt. All the bikers then stop. Some get off their bikes and start beating up on the SUV. If the bikers had approached the SUV calmly after the "accident" of the SUV hitting the idiot biker doing the brake check, the SUV driver wouldn't have tried to flee by driving through them. Instead the bikers before he attempts to flee attack his SUV and slash his tires. The bikers at that point are committing assault and are showing their willingness to use violence.

Once the driver was being assaulted, he is legally allowed to either try to flee the scene or use force to defend himself. By driving OVER the bikers, what he did was RIGHT. Even if he pulled out a gun and started shooting that would also be RIGHT and proper behavior. People have a fucking right to defend their lives and the lives of their love ones by ANY means necessary. Anyone that doesn't think that is a massive fucking idiot.

I don't disagree at all

 

[takeru]

How would you have handled that situation he was in?

I rather take the 50% chance of fighting back than the 100% chance of being assault/bloody beaten up/stab by knives.

What would you do?

a) Fight back

b) Bend over and take it

i would have done probably the same as the suv driver, and stay driving as long as possible while calling police. my priority is the safety of the two with me. if i had to use force and run over them to keep driving then that's fine. it is not the point of playing the role of the victim or not. it is the point of minimizing the chance of harm to the people with me.

 

[Schfifty Five]

I don't disagree at all

Yes you do, at least partly.

You said what the SUV driver did was not right.

HumblePie said what the SUV drive did was right.

 

[takeru]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...h-range-rover-that-sparked-chase-beating?lite

looks like police have the guy that did the brake check in custody.

 

[Svnla]

i would have done probably the same as the suv driver, and stay driving as long as possible while calling police. my priority is the safety of the two with me. if i had to use force and run over them to keep driving then that's fine. it is not the point of playing the role of the victim or not. it is the point of minimizing the chance of harm to the people with me.

The SUV driver did all of that but he got stuck in traffic at the end.

Now what? Use any mean if neccesary (inluding deathly force) or accept what they did to him?

Since this is NY(C), I would do a spin/driving back and forward/any mean to stop them.

 

[Incorruptible]

I know you're probably pissed at the events that transpired, I mean hell, who isn't? But c'mon, anyone can act like a bad ass behind a computer screen. In real life, you aren't going around expecting something as crazy as that to happen in a blink of an eye. Are you still going to be that bad ass and pull out your piece if the moment does arise?

And let's say you did have a gun and were able to put a bullet in the guy that breaks your window, don't you think the rest of those fools would have a gun too and would quite possibly kill you and your family?

In his situation he couldn't have a gun, Thank you gun control supporters!

If I was in his exact situation then I would have run them over and not gone into the streets like that. If they kept following I would have called 911 and turned around and charged the bikers. They're no match against his Range Rover.

What these guys did was incredibly stupid and dangerous brake checking him. These guys think they're so tough but there not. Lets see how tough they are when it's 1 vs 1.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Those guys got exactly what they deserved. The rest of them should have gotten it, too.

 

[Murloc]

If they kept following I would have called 911 and turned around and charged the bikers. They're no match against his Range Rover.

doesn't sound like a good thing to do on a highway, you risk killing yourself. He should just have gone on with a decent speed so that they couldn't smash the window and unlock the car, and push them laterally if they approached too much.

 

[waggy]

anyone defending the bikers might want to look at this.

they were out to cause trouble and see what they could get away with. they have no respect for law or anyone else on the road.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

 

[Tencntraze]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...wild-upper-manhattan-attack-article-1.1472419

Mieses' wife told the CBS affiliate that she was furious at Lien.

"This man needs to know he hurt someone," she said. "That man paralyzed my husband. He needs to pay for what he did."

So he needs to pay for being assaulted and trying to protect his family?

 

[Schfifty Five]

In his situation he couldn't have a gun, Thank you gun control supporters!

If I was in his exact situation then I would have run them over and not gone into the streets like that. If they kept following I would have called 911 and turned around and charged the bikers. They're no match against his Range Rover.

What these guys did was incredibly stupid and dangerous brake checking him. These guys think they're so tough but there not. Lets see how tough they are when it's 1 vs 1.

And that's the problem. It's not 1 on 1. It's 1 on 100+. And yes, anyone can think "I would never go into the city" but again, when you are surprised by something like that, you don't think straight. Also, you failed to note that his tires were slashed. How long do you think he could stay on the highway with slashed tires?

All you're doing is acting like an internet bad ass. You think you are tough and would do this or that, but I'd wager that if you were in that situation, it wouldn't go anywhere near what you planned to do.

 

[Alienwho]

Those bikers are scumbag. This coming from a motorcycle guy. There has got to be a forum out there where these guys correlated all of this and are discussing the aftermath now. Anybody know it?

 

[96Firebird]

Some images of the aftermath...

http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/suvbikers-insert.jpg

http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/suvbikers-insert-2.jpg

 

[Mandres]

How in the hell did the guy let himself get pulled out of the Range Rover?

I would have used that gigantic truck like the weapon it is, no way in hell I'm letting them get to me and my family. Run each and every one of them that chases off the road.

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...wild-upper-manhattan-attack-article-1.1472419

Mieses' wife told the CBS affiliate that she was furious at Lien.

"This man needs to know he hurt someone," she said. "That man paralyzed my husband. He needs to pay for what he did."

So he needs to pay for being assaulted and trying to protect his family?

Someone needs to go laugh in that lady's face.

 

[Ns1]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...wild-upper-manhattan-attack-article-1.1472419

Mieses' wife told the CBS affiliate that she was furious at Lien.

"This man needs to know he hurt someone," she said. "That man paralyzed my husband. He needs to pay for what he did."

So he needs to pay for being assaulted and trying to protect his family?

Kelly said police were monitoring the group — put together by Hollywood Stuntz, who caused chaos at the Crossroads of the World last year — and arrested 15 bikers, confiscated 55 motorcycles and issued 68 summonses.

jesus.

 

[Schfifty Five]

How in the hell did the guy let himself get pulled out of the Range Rover?

I would have used that gigantic truck like the weapon it is, no way in hell I'm letting them get to me and my family. Run each and every one of them that chases off the road.

Try reading one of the articles/reports. It's been noted that his tire(s) were slashed during the initial stop/accident.

 

[McLovin]

jesus.

I posted this series of unfortunate events on My FB wall. I have a couple of friends who are pretty big in motorcycles and have done similar, yet way smaller, rides. I am interested to hear what they have to say.

From what I've seen so far, I believe all those guys on the bikes are fucking idiots and I don't blame the Range Rover driver one bit.