Laser Printer 59.99 AR

Mecheater

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Great deal, good printer. Have one of these in my office at work. Much faster than the samsung I had.

Nice find again Joker
 

Sappster

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any ratings on this printer? Does anyone know how good it really is? Is it better than HP's 1012 Laserjet??
 

Lanyap

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Originally posted by: Sappster
any ratings on this printer? Does anyone know how good it really is? Is it better than HP's 1012 Laserjet??
Yes, for $60 it is. IIRC, this is a Windows printer.
 

OctaneZ

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Hardware Central's review

The summary, keep in mind that they are reviewing it at $190:
Pros:

* Low price, swift performance, superb text quality
* Nice horizontal paper tray, software control panel, and two-piece toner/drum replacements

Cons:

* Not-so-great graphics quality, even in speed-sapping 1,200 by 1,200 dpi mode
* Memory and paper capacity not expandable

A Couple More Links:
Minolta Product Page
Linux Driver Info
 

LIVAN

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Wasn't there an issue with this printer that you have to replace the drum separate from the toner?
 

Black88GTA

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Thanks, grabbed one. Didn't know I needed it, until I thought about the fact that my Epson CX6400 blows through "high-capacity" black ink carts like there's no tomorrow...and new ones are almost $30 each. Not to mention, I won't have to worry about burning up expensive color ink carts printing ads and other junk off Mapquest and other sites.

This should pretty much pay for itself rather quickly at $60 AR . Nice find!
 

kaborka

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This is a GDI printer (rasterizing in software). The drum is indeed separate from the toner. I have the 1250W and this one, both work great. Uniform coverage, and very reliable paper feed. I would prefer a paper cassette I could keep loaded all the time instead of the fold-down tray this has, but for the price it's excellent.
 

thejman

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Hey everyone, I came across the following review at Amazon, which could potentially cool this deal off somewhat, depending upon the actual cost of "OEM" cartridges, and/or if you can put up with the alleged slowdown in output with refills/discount toner:

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Reviewer: Chip (Berkeley, CA United States) - See all my reviews
This was a great printer as far as print quality and speed... but what Minolta doesn't tell you in advance is that if you either refill the cartridge or use a non-new or non-factory cartridge, the printer goes into "deep cleaning" mode (permanently) while printing and slows down to about 6ppm. It won't go back up to regular speed unless you install a new Minolta cartridge.

This, of course, is a completely bogus excuse for forcing you to buy Minolta toner (which costs $130).

I called tech support to confirm that there was no workaround, and the woman I spoke with had received 4 complaints that morning on that issue.

So I sent it back and bought a Samsung ML-1710, which, although a little bit slower (17ppm instead of 21) can use any toner and seems like an excellent little printer.
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In response to LIVAN:

I have no idea if the review at Amazon is true, however it is not impossible for the printer to keep track of SPECIFIC cartridges. Consider:

Hewlett Packard multifunctioninkjet devices have a built-in "ink level gauge" that also retains the serial # (and expir. date?) information of the last two cartridges used. In order to successfully refill cartridges from these machines, you can alternatively swap cartridges in and out.This of requires that you have a total of three cartridges whise date has not expired.

Who's to say that "The Minds of Minolta" (LOL) didn't do HP one better?
 

LIVAN

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I don't think that is true. There is noway for the printer to know whether if the cartidge or not if you simply refill the original toner. Now if you get an OEM cartidge then that might be another story. But if you refill the oringal cartidge, how would it know?
 

Souka

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Originally posted by: LIVAN
I don't think that is true. There is noway for the printer to know whether if the cartidge or not if you simply refill the original toner. Now if you get an OEM cartidge then that might be another story. But if you refill the oringal cartidge, how would it know?

Actually quite easy. Simplest method...page counting....reaches a certain# of pages, unit flashes light till a new toner (and chip) inserted. Harder method, but more accurate method would employ a logic circut that would remember how much the laser was used....from that determine toner useage.....at certain point stop working till a new toner (and again chip) is replaced.
 

Carl Uman

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Yep, looks like some jerks are trying to pull the same crap some inkjet makes are but taking to the next level and slowing down your printer. Kinda like paying rent on your printer :disgust:

I'll stick with my HP 5n

EDIT:
Probably still cheaper than inkjets in the long run.
 

aceO07

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Does anybody else have more information about the toner cartridge issue? I have a 1250W and I'm wondering if it applies to me also (probably).

If I ever run out of toner for my Minolta 1250W, I might as well look for a new printer.
 

Pretty Cool

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That chipped cartridge issue is true. Mulitple persons have reported having that experience. Perhaps the only way use refill toner is to never let the cartridge hit the low mark and display the warning. Once you see that dialog box, there is nothing you can do. Your fast laser has turned into shareware nag, crippling your machine until you buy an OEM-approved replacemenet. Since PagePro's are not popular models, do not expect a fix/patch/workaround from others. Also, be aware that Minolta only includes a starter which is only 1/3 full, so if you refill, do it soon. Only the 1350w is affected, not last generation's 1250w.
 

kaborka

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Originally posted by: Pretty Cool
<snip>...Your fast laser has turned into shareware nag, crippling your machine until you buy an OEM-approved replacemenet.</snip>
PC, can you confirm that the print speed will recover? An earlier post said the crippled mode was "permanent"?
 

Pretty Cool

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My 1350w's toner has not gotten that low, so I cannot confirm 1st hand exactly what happens. However, I do know individuals who have used up all the starter toner and they have expressed this concern. In addition to Amazon, you could also find folks at FW who has complained about (but failed to resolve) this very issue. Everybody says that the speed drops significantly until a new Minolta toner cartridge is installed.
 
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