Last chance for your 69x0 predictions! Disclaimer:Lets make thing up ITT

[Fhistleb]

Supercharged 5570>580>6870>470>6970>5570

its a neverending circle

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

That is an awesome quote. I may just have to steal it. It is the closest thing I have seen to an actual fanboy post, where it seems that you are cheering on a sports team, but in actuality you are cheering on a Graphics Card company to have higher performance than a competing company. :awe:

Indeed, only a fanboy would defy common sense... If the new AMD cards arent competitive, we will all be paying higher prices... But who cares right? Our favourite company WINS!!

 

[Arkadrel]

580>570OC>570>480>6970>470>560>6950

The 6970 will also be slower than a 5970.

595 > 6990

Epic gonna be fun seeing if that really happends.

Also is 570>480 really true? Techpowerup has it at 1% faster in their "Relative performance all resolutions" charts, but I remember seeing some review sites saying it was abit slower than the 480. Guess this might be very dependent on which games you pick as a review site, weather the 570 is actually faster than the 480 or not.

 

[Wreckage]

I guess WelshBloke did say to just make stuff up but do you really think that the 6850 and 6950 will be neck and neck? Same thing with the 5870 and 6970?
.

Well I've seen rumors put the 6970 behind the 570, so I based my chart on that.

If I had to bet money on where these cards would end up, I would not bet as all information so far has been crappy.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

I guess WelshBloke did say to just make stuff up but do you really think that the 6850 and 6950 will be neck and neck? Same thing with the 5870 and 6970?

Hey, dont make stuff up... In Wreckage's world, 470 > 5870, as he has already said before, with the evidence of a Hawx 2 benchmark LOL.

 

[Aristotelian]

AMD/ATI isn't worth my time...

That's funny, because you spend an inordinate amount of time on these forums doing everything you can to disparage the company. This isn't a call out. You made a claim that they aren't worth your time yet the vast majority of your posts do nothing but belittle AMD - contradicting your very post here.

I predict that the 6970 and 6950 will be slightly slower than their Nvidia counterparts (580 and 570 respectively) and that people will still be willing to pay a premium for the cards (i.e., they'll be more expensive than their Nvidia counterparts and people, for whatever reason, will be willing to pay more anyway).

 

[WelshBloke]

Epic gonna be fun seeing if that really happends.

Well to be fair I did say not to take this thread too seriously so I don't think anyone should he held to any predictions in it.

Edit: Hold on, am I defending Wreckage here? Aw F this.. I'm going for my tea.

 

[solofly]

Indeed, only a fanboy would defy common sense... If the new AMD cards arent competitive, we will all be paying higher prices... But who cares right? Our favourite company WINS!!

Yeah I'm the biggest fanboy there is, I'm a fanboy of stability, compatibility and trouble free computing and that's what I am...

 

[Stoneburner]

I'm hoping the Celtics win this year (anyone but the Heat really). Not a Kobe fan.

I don't mind the celts but the Heat winning would be awesome


<---- D.wade fan.

 

[Elfear]

Well I've seen rumors put the 6970 behind the 570, so I based my chart on that.

If I had to bet money on where these cards would end up, I would not bet as all information so far has been crappy.

There have been a lot of rumors covering a whole spectrum of performance but wouldn't common sense dictate that AMD wouldn't bother releasing expensive high-end cards that perform the same as their mid-range?

Like I said, this seems to be just a fun thread so I'm not sure if you are being humorous or if you really think that would be AMD's strategy.

 

[Teizo]

Since it's so close to release.

#1 580
#2 6970
#3 570
#4 6950

But,

#1 6970 CF
#2 580 SLI
#3 6950 CF
#4 570 SLI

I also think people will be able to cherry-pick benchmarks where 6970 is faster than 580.

I agree with you on the crossfire scaling, if AMD can replicate what they did with the 68's...that would be nice.

I'll go further on at least one cherry picked benchmark and say the 6970 will be faster than the 580 in Crysis.

My other prediction is that Nvidia is going to make a huge bonanza of their 570 OC cards since they are going to be cheaper than the 6970, but offer equivalent performance, or close, in lots of games. Guru3d has another one up already, and that is two in the last two days..so it's pretty much official they've started their push lol....

 

[Wreckage]

Hey, dont make stuff up... In Wreckage's world, 470 > 5870, as he has already said before, with the evidence of a Hawx 2 benchmark LOL.

Don't forget Lost Planet 2, Metro2033, WoW: Cataclysm, etc. New drivers are pushing the Fermi architecture up nicely.

 

[Stoneburner]

Yeah I'm the biggest fanboy there is, I'm a fanboy of stability, compatibility and trouble free computing and that's what I am...

You should also be a fanboy of evidence and structured analysis. You've had issues with ati drivers, fine. Alot of people do not. I have far more issues with my nvidia drivers (laptop admittedly) than ati drivers. Based on my experience, shouldn't you hate both companies?

There's a personal experience bias you're suffering from. If, in fact, somebody objectively measured driver stability and showed ati to be severely lagging, your statements would be well-founded. But just saying, "Amd sucks because i've had driver issues!" is like saying lightning strikes are the biggest threat to safety because you've been hit twice.

 

[Wreckage]

That's funny, because you spend an inordinate amount of time on these forums doing everything you can to disparage the company. This isn't a call out. You made a claim that they aren't worth your time yet the vast majority of your posts do nothing but belittle AMD - contradicting your very post here.

You are new here. Solofly was once one of the biggest ATI fans on this forum. Rabid even.

 

[notty22]

gtx 580- still the fastest gpu in the world.
The 6970 will be about even with the gtx 570.
There is not a lot of performance difference here between the gtx 480, gtx 570 ,hd 6950, and even the trailing hd 5870.
IMHO

 

[Barfo]

580>570OC>570>480>6970>470>560>6950

The 6970 will also be slower than a 5970.

595 > 6990

The 4870 will be slower than a 8600GT.

:thumbsup:

 

[Wreckage]

There have been a lot of rumors covering a whole spectrum of performance but wouldn't common sense dictate that AMD wouldn't bother releasing expensive high-end cards that perform the same as their mid-range?

Who knows what they are up to. When was the last time they launched a series with a slower card. 6870 vs 5870. In the past they always launched with a faster card. x1900 -> 2900 -> 3800 -> 4800.

Their marketing is all wacko right now.

So if the 6870 is their "mid-range", their is plenty of space between that and a 480.

 

[Elfear]

Yeah I'm the biggest fanboy there is, I'm a fanboy of stability, compatibility and trouble free computing and that's what I am...

Lol. I know what you mean. I haven't used my computer with the 5850 in it for over a year because my Pentium laptop with integrated Nvidia graphics provides a much better computing experience. In fact my 5850 was so unstable when I bought it that it caught my desk on fire and tried to electrocute my 5-yr old.

 

[Aristotelian]

You are new here. Solofly was once one of the biggest ATI fanboys on this forum. Rabid even.

What does my reg date and post count have to do with my claim that he has been spending a lot of time belittling AMD? The vast majority of his posts in the past few months either support my claim explicitly or implicitly. Spin cycle: stalled.

 

[Wreckage]

. In fact my 5850 was so unstable when I bought it that it caught my desk on fire and tried to electrocute my 5-yr old.

That's terrible Mind if I quote you in my sig with that to warn others?

 

[96Firebird]

Lol. I know what you mean. I haven't used my computer with the 5850 in it for over a year because my Pentium laptop with integrated Nvidia graphics provides a much better computing experience. In fact my 5850 was so unstable when I bought it that it caught my desk on fire and tried to electrocute my 5-yr old.

You should definitely file a claim against AMD in that case, that is completely unacceptable. :biggrin:

Most people judge products (brands) by their own experience. I don't see a problem with that.

 

[Aristotelian]

Lol. I know what you mean. I haven't used my computer with the 5850 in it for over a year because my Pentium laptop with integrated Nvidia graphics provides a much better computing experience. In fact my 5850 was so unstable when I bought it that it caught my desk on fire and tried to electrocute my 5-yr old.

Guess you never owned an xps m1330 huh? I predict some sterility lawsuits in the future against Nvidia for putting that chip inside a 'lap'top.

 

[Lonbjerg]

I agree with your prediction, albeit I am disappointed AMD did not pull ahead of the 580 at average resolutions, which is just an overclocked GTX 480 with a few more shaders, with the 6970.

I have been looking at benches that show 6970 Crossfire being much, much faster than GTX 580 SLI for 3 monitor gaming, so I think there will be exceptions.

For the gamer who wants to use 3 monitors for resolutions such as 5760x1200, 6970 Crossfire, and 6950 Crossfire will be far superior to 580 and 570 SLI, not to mention you can run a 3 monitor setup on one AMD card, but you have to go SLI to run 3 monitors on Nvidia.

6990 will be a real beast with the improved Crossfire scaling in 6 series, but I'm not sure how fast 2x6990 will be as generally 4 GPUs do not scale that well. 6990x2 may be faster than nvidia's best in GTX 580 Tri-SLI because the 5XX series cannot run quad-sli, but it remains to be seen.

What did you expect?
With AMD's focus so much om "performance per watt" and cutting out stuff from their GPU's...it has to show up somewhere.

You know like starting to reducing I.Q at same settings, performing less or passing o a lackluster AF solution.

This is the path AMD has taken...should come as no surprise...if you are a realist.

 

[zokudu]

This is the happiest thread on VC&G forum I've ever seen.

 

[Martimus]

Holy $hit I'm famous...lol

I hope you don't mind. I will likely remove it after a week or so, since I never keep quotes for any period of time in my sig.

I just chuckled when I read what you wrote based on the absurdity of it, and felt the need to share it. It is all in good fun, I just thought it amusing that you were cheering for a company like a cheerleader. I am sure that amusement was response you were looking for. :awe: