Last Samurai = white propaganda?

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squirtle24

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I don't plan on seeing the movie, but it seems to me that they adapted a famous Japanese historical event(Katsumoto being a fictional version of Saigo in the Satsuma rebellion) and put this American guy in the middle of it. To someone like me, who has read about said event and Japanese history, it's almost as ludicrous as putting a Japanese samurai fighting side by side next to say, George Washington in the American Revolution, learning about uh, the frontier and no taxation without representation. There's just no way I could suspend my disbelief, as the idea is too far-fetched. I'll take a Kurosawa film any day.

In regards to white propoganda, I used to think like that. I even took a film class back in college about Asian American film. To me, the bottom line is that American filmmakers have to do it this way to make the movie successful in America. Certainly, an all Japanese cast in subtitles won't be nearly as popular. In that sense, I'd complain about the target audience more than the movie makers.

Joy Luck Club...I think a lot of people had problems with that movie because there was not a single good Asian male(under the age of 70, anyway) in that movie; they were all villains. Hollywood has a habit of making Asian men the bad guys, or in the case of the single good Asian father, old and weak. I suppose it's not as bad as it once was, but I don't think things will change for a very long time.
 

iwearnosox

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White power! Who's with me?

All white people are decendants of Asian people, by the way. A recent DNA based report from a guy at Stanford traced back human evolution and migration through unique genetic markers, it was really cool. Their last stop was a small tribe in Africa which was the "purest" genetic match for the world's population. So whites used to be asian and we all used to be black.

Get over your differences, people. Learn to hate everyone equally like me.
 

GasX

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Feb 8, 2001
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Here is my take on whether or not this is "white propaganda":

Until the Japs apologize to me, my family and my native country for torturing and killing my uncle in a WWII POW camp in Burma they can go fvck themselves....
 

Sureshot324

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I haven't seen The Last Samurai, but a lot of new war movies are blatent pro american propaganda.
 

Tab

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True, the jappanse never aplogiesed to America. Who they really should aplogize to is China, you could easy say the were worst than Hilter. Anyway, welcome to hollywood.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: RgrPark
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RgrPark
Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Originally posted by: Kev RgrPark = idiot propaganda?
Originally posted by: CrazyDe1 Last samurai was friggin awesome..
funny how idiots like u are attacking me for.....what? did you even read my post? i liked the movie...i just posted someone else's opinion. But then again, looking at when you joined and the # of posts you have, you're probably one of those people that talk before thinking...go out and enjoy life instead of posting here all day.
what an ignorant and pathetic comeback. i made my post after your dumb ass forgot to actually put content in your message.
and i average 6 posts per day. wow i must have no time for anything else. once again,
moron.

that post was to Tetsuo. thanx for showing your high intellect and participating in my thread.

a post where he said nothing but quoted my post. damn you are dense.
 

Bolvangar

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I thought it was a great movie. People should get better things to do than analyze every movie they see and criticize it.
If you don't like it, keep your rude comments to yourself until you can put out better films.
 

TommyVercetti

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Originally posted by: Bolvangar
I thought it was a great movie. People should get better things to do than analyze every movie they see and criticize it.
If you don't like it, keep your comments to yourself until you can put out better films.

Would you say the same thing if a movie came out supporting Nazi ideology and sympathyzing to Palestinian suicide bombers?
 

EvilYoda

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Originally posted by: Bolvangar
I thought it was a great movie. People should get better things to do than analyze every movie they see and criticize it.
If you don't like it, keep your comments to yourself until you can put out better films.

yeah...so only good things should be said about movie, I'll definitely keep my mouth closed unless I think a movie is great...if you can voice your opinion about it, why can't someone else, regardless of what he/she has to say?
 

iwearnosox

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Oct 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Originally posted by: Bolvangar
I thought it was a great movie. People should get better things to do than analyze every movie they see and criticize it.
If you don't like it, keep your comments to yourself until you can put out better films.

Would you say the same thing if a movie came out supporting Nazi ideology and sympathyzing to Palestinian suicide bombers?
I'd probably actually go see that.

 

theNEOone

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Apr 22, 2001
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i'm willing to bet that the author of that piece has a small prick and had a g/f that left him for a white guy.


=|
 

Sid59

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i can understand the rant of the quoted OP. I'll have to watch the movie before i can comment on the worth of the movie.

But historically, in comics, books, and movies, asians were depicted as beasts, martial arts experts, demonic / evil, and feminine.
Also, in prevalent books that include Asians, there's the theme of "white savior". Where the "white person" always comes up with the solution to save an Asian Family or something else.

Might sound like BS but there are many books and Asian AMerican Literature classes which round it all together.
 

ThreeLeggedGnome

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Originally posted by: theNEOone
i'm willing to bet that the author of that piece has a small prick and had a g/f that left him for a white guy.


=|

Just for the record, white women are not at all impressed by the white men's genitalia, see how many date black guys nowadays? Most asian girls, I suspect, are not dating white males for their sexual prowess (big joke there), but for their social status.
 

RgrPark

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RgrPark
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RgrPark
Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Originally posted by: Kev RgrPark = idiot propaganda?
Originally posted by: CrazyDe1 Last samurai was friggin awesome..
funny how idiots like u are attacking me for.....what? did you even read my post? i liked the movie...i just posted someone else's opinion. But then again, looking at when you joined and the # of posts you have, you're probably one of those people that talk before thinking...go out and enjoy life instead of posting here all day.
what an ignorant and pathetic comeback. i made my post after your dumb ass forgot to actually put content in your message.
and i average 6 posts per day. wow i must have no time for anything else. once again,
moron.
that post was to Tetsuo. thanx for showing your high intellect and participating in my thread.
a post where he said nothing but quoted my post. damn you are dense.

your comments to my thread has been very informational. Obviously i was talking about Tetsuo's post #, but you are too dumb to figure that out.You are a moron. go talk non-sense in some other thread. but then again i bet pointless name calling is something that isn't new to you. People like you do not contribute in any way to society. if you have nothing to say about the topic, don't talk kid. discussion over. I will not deign to reply to any more of your stupid comments. Get out of my thread you are not wanted.
 

bleeb

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Feb 3, 2000
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What we need to have is to increase the number of asian male pr0n stars and more asian male leading actors in these big budget movies.
 

virtuamike

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Originally posted by: RgrPark
Originally posted by: bleeb
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti What was so rasict about the Joy Luck Club?

I have no idea. never watched it.

If you're gonna blame anyone about Joy Luck Club, blame Amy Tan. Stupid liberal feminist, every book she writes sounds exactly the same. Oh woe to me! I'm female and I'm being oppressed by worthless Asian guy! Hollywood did a very good job of literally portraying her Asian-man-hate.
 

zener

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Come on children! Now children, have more respect for the asians. We, white dude, proud european descandant, own our existence to the asian rats (imported by mistake from an venetian ship) who delivered us from the Black Plague. It took them only about two years to overwhelm the virus infected european rat and it should not take them too long to overwhelm the US and European economy. Give them a few decades.
 

Dacalo

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It's a damn FICTIONAL movie for crying out loud.

Damn morons think every movie out of Hollywood is based on the true historical facts.
 
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