Last Vegas strip shooting: More than 20 dead, 100 injured after gunman opens fire near Mandalay Bay

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Bird222

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The right to bear arms doesn't include "arms of any kind", given the constitutionality of restrictions currently in place. At the time it was written, the Constitution only referenced black powder flintlocks. Breech loaders & rifled barrels were very rare while the percussion cap, metallic cartridges & smokeless powder had yet to be invented. The lethality of modern firearms was beyond their imagination.
The internet was beyond their imagination too, but I'm not going to say the first amendment doesn't apply to emails though.
 

Younigue

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The ability of one person to murder 58 people and injure some 500 more in just 8 MINUTES negates all of your post. All your ilk care about is your so called rights what about the rights of the victims to live and not get slaughtered?
You misunderstand... the victims, they have the right to die.
 
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Bird222

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Needs more false equivalency.
Explain. Progress has been made in both areas. Citizens had weapons equivalent to what soldiers carried in that day and they probably should now. Freedom is hard and messy. Like I said to make the changes that some want, you are going to have to repeal the 2A at a minimum. If you haven't you should look at the latest Bill Maher episode. He touched on not letting Republicans be the party of freedom. He was commenting on a bill to install sensors in cars to prevent kids being left in hot cars. It's tragic when that happens but it is so statistically small it's ridiculous. We can't have government micro-manage every aspect of our lives. Again, we can't/shouldn't craft policy based on emotions.
 
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Svnla

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Typical loner, with anti social behavior -

The portrait, gleaned from interviews with hundreds of people interviewed over the past week, is that while Paddock might have been financially successful, he had real difficulty interacting with people. He is described as standoff-ish, disconnected, a man who had difficulty establishing and maintaining meaningful relationships.

The 64-year-old was known for playing gambling games in casinos for hours at a time with little or no human contact. One source told ABC News that Paddock was exhibiting many antisocial traits that are typical of past mass shooters.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/investigat...-undiagnosed-mental-illness/story?id=50346433
 

vi edit

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Clearly the answer to only allow married men to purchase firearms.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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Whew, thank god, that will make the dead people feel better.

Its just another crazy white guy. Nothing to be done about it being easy for the mentally ill having easy access to firearms.

Now if it had been a black guy it would have been because of his rage at white people and the breakdown of social order leading to white people being persecuted in this country. Black people need to get over slavery and institutionalized discrimination.

Muslim - It was an attack on the foundation of America because country music is Christian music. Ban them all.

Single white guy - he is just crazy and we can't do anything about it.
 
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mdram

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Its just another crazy white guy. Nothing to be done about it being easy for the mentally ill having easy access to firearms.

Now if it had been a black guy it would have been because of his rage at white people and the breakdown of social order leading to white people being persecuted in this country. Black people need to get over slavery and institutionalized discrimination.

Muslim - It was an attack on the foundation of America because country music is Christian music. Ban them all.

Single white guy - he is just crazy and we can't do anything about it.

what if it was a crazy white guy shooting at a hip hop concert?
 

HumblePie

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Needs more false equivalency.

Not really. Also muskets may have been the "common" fire arm at the time, but there were other more advanced guns at the time if rare. Also, within the lifetime of all those that wrote the declaration the advances in firearm technology continued to give them rapid fire capabilities close to what anyone has access today in doing. They could have hundreds of years ago changed the Constitution if they only meant the common man to own muskets or "hunting" only weapons. You think people that wrote the Constitution during a great time of industrial evolution that was making massive progress in technologies everywhere couldn't see that firearms and weapons of "war" would advance too? You are really dumb to even think that people at any given point in time can only focus on the present and not imagine future changes.

Hell in 100 years people like you would be arguing that people of today never imagined they would be using flechette rifles, hand railguns, or lasers, or whatever advanced weaponry humans finally make. That's the lame brain argument you are making now. You don't think people back then could imagine weapons that fired quicker and more accurate? Because if they couldn't imagine it, they couldn't work towards the development of it and we'd still be using muskets the world over. Heck, with the retarded theory you've spouted we should all be using clubs as weapons of war today because no human capable of drafting the Constitution is capable of foreseeing technological improvements in the future to weapons.
 
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Explain. Progress has been made in both areas. Citizens had weapons equivalent to what soldiers carried in that day and they probably should now. Freedom is hard and messy. Like I said to make the changes that some want, you are going to have to repeal the 2A at a minimum. If you haven't you should look at the latest Bill Maher episode. He touched on not letting Republicans be the party of freedom. He was commenting on a bill to install sensors in cars to prevent kids being left in hot cars. It's tragic when that happens but it is so statistically small it's ridiculous. We can't have government micro-manage every aspect of our lives. Again, we can't/shouldn't craft policy based on emotions.
Jhhnn is one of the liberal elites that believe you have no rights, no power and no freedom, except what his government permits you.
 

Thebobo

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Jun 19, 2006
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Jhhnn is one of the liberal elites that believe you have no rights, no power and no freedom, except what his government permits you.

Hyperbole

[hahy-pur-buh-lee]
  • Examples: When I post about gun control or just about anything I'm often prone to hyperbole.
See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
noun, Rhetoric.

1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to betaken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”.
 

bshole

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Hell in 100 years people like you would be arguing that people of today never imagined they would be using flechette rifles, hand railguns, or lasers, or whatever advanced weaponry humans finally make. That's the lame brain argument you are making now. You don't think people back then could imagine weapons that fired quicker and more accurate? Because if they couldn't imagine it, they couldn't work towards the development of it and we'd still be using muskets the world over. Heck, with the retarded theory you've spouted we should all be using clubs as weapons of war today because no human capable of drafting the Constitution is capable of foreseeing technological improvements in the future to weapons.

Is this some kind of shitty argument to open up nuclear weapons, chemical/biological weapons etc to the highest civilian voter? If so, how many days after that happened do you think western civilization would exist?

PS.... 100 yards with a pistol.... my fucking ass....
 

J.Wilkins

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Jhhnn is one of the liberal elites that believe you have no rights, no power and no freedom, except what his government permits you.

Jnhnn is not a liberal, he has demostrated that time and time again, he is not as authoritarian as you fascists but he's quite a bit against the free market...

You are the epitome of a dead eyed follower of whatever dear leader says, there are times when you are arguing against your original point because you missed the point Trump was making and you have to agree with that at all costs...

This is for you:

I twist the truth,
I rule the world,
my crown is called deceit
I am the emperor of lies,you grovel at my feet
I rob you and I slaughter you, your downfall is my gain

And still you play the sycophant and revel in your pain
And all my promises are lies, all my love is hate
I am the politician, and I decide your fate
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Off topic: But I just watched a video montage of her (and a few others) melting down on election night. She's another that lives in melodrama.

say what you will about Rachel Maddow, but she's not so stupid as to bring a cigarette to a gun fight.
 

J.Wilkins

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Jun 5, 2017
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say what you will about Rachel Maddow, but she's not so stupid as to bring a cigarette to a gun fight.

Can you blame her for a meltdown though? No one saw that coming and the laughter is just now subsiding from around the world at the stupidity of the American retards.
 
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