Last Vegas strip shooting: More than 20 dead, 100 injured after gunman opens fire near Mandalay Bay

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Ann Coulter jumps the shark for the 3,987,673rd time

I had to look around, but found one for you.
http://www.anncoulter.com/

"Now the media are just taunting us with their tall tales about Stephen Paddock, the alleged Las Vegas shooter. Reputedly serious news organizations are claiming that he made a living playing video poker. That's like claiming someone made a living smoking crack. "
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"Among the questions not being asked by our wildly incurious media:

Why would Paddock unload 200 rounds into the hallway at a security guard who was checking on someone else's room beforebeginning his massacre?

How can it possibly take eight days to figure out when the alleged shooter checked into the hotel?

Why was Paddock wearing gloves if he was about to commit suicide?

Have any other solitary mass shooters ever had girlfriends?
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"If this were a movie script, a terrorist would go to Paddock's room on the pretense of buying guns, kill Paddock, commit the massacre, put his gunshot residue-covered gloves on Paddock's dead hands and slip out of the room when the coast was clear.

According to the all-new timeline given by the Las Vegas police -- pending a third revision -- this is at least possible. The hallway was empty, except for a bleeding security guard down by the elevators, for at least two minutes after the shooting stopped. The stairwell was clear for more than half an hour. It also explains the gloves.

There's no evidence for any of this, but on the other hand, there's no evidence for the version the media are giving us. At least the movie script version doesn't require us to pretend that Paddock was making "millions" from video poker. "
 

shortylickens

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Long ago we agreed Ann Coulter is just a professional troll. She says outrageous shit to get attention and generate ad revenue. It works well.
She doesn't actually believe anything she says. In fact I don't think she really believes in anything.
 
Nov 25, 2013
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Long ago we agreed Ann Coulter is just a professional troll. She says outrageous shit to get attention and generate ad revenue. It works well.
She doesn't actually believe anything she says. In fact I don't think she really believes in anything.

She obviously believes in money and believes that "outrage" will get it for her. She's not been wrong yet.
 

Jhhnn

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She doesn't actually believe anything she says. In fact I don't think she really believes in anything.

I think that assessment covers Repub politicos in general. They believe in playing the rubes & the suckers for all they can. In that sense, Trump is the ultimate Repub politician.
 
Feb 16, 2005
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EL OH EL
ann coulter as a source for anything other than how to be a vitriolic, racist xenophobe. What's the matter tajjy, couldn't find a link from milo on this topic?
 
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Long ago we agreed Ann Coulter is just a professional troll. She says outrageous shit to get attention and generate ad revenue. It works well.
She doesn't actually believe anything she says. In fact I don't think she really believes in anything.
"we agreed" ? You got a mouse in your pocket? Oh wait, you we talking about the usual suspect circle jerk lefties.
 

Jhhnn

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God DAMN you are fuckin stupid!

Taj defending Coulter reminds me of an old lawyer joke, the one where a lawyer slipped & fell overboard into shark infested waters. The sharks carried him on their backs right up to the beach & let him go. When asked why they would do that he replied "professional courtesy".
 
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SlowSpyder

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Just a reminder, since this shooting about 28500 people have died from tobacco. Almost 2500 of those are innocent victims of second hands smoke (more than every gun suicide, murder, accident, police shooting combined by some hundreds of lives). None of you that "care about saving lives" (LOL) have started any threads on it. Your anti-2A crusade is not about saving lives, you don't care about that, you care about your anti-2A agenda.
 
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Just a reminder, since this shooting about 28500 people have died from tobacco. Almost 2500 of those are innocent victims of second hands smoke (more than every gun suicide, murder, accident, police shooting combined by some hundreds of lives). None of you that "care about saving lives" (LOL) have started any threads on it. Your anti-2A crusade is not about saving lives, you don't care about that, you care about your anti-2A agenda.

This photo represents my thoughts

 

Thebobo

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Just a reminder, since this shooting about 28500 people have died from tobacco. Almost 2500 of those are innocent victims of second hands smoke (more than every gun suicide, murder, accident, police shooting combined by some hundreds of lives). None of you that "care about saving lives" (LOL) have started any threads on it. Your anti-2A crusade is not about saving lives, you don't care about that, you care about your anti-2A agenda.

Here we go again.

tobacco
second hand smoke
care about lives
anti 2A agenda

You just copy and paste that from one of your bazillion other post of yours that say the-exact-Same-thing over and over. In the future just copy and past the four talking points it will save you some time.
 
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Just a reminder, since this shooting about 28500 people have died from tobacco. Almost 2500 of those are innocent victims of second hands smoke (more than every gun suicide, murder, accident, police shooting combined by some hundreds of lives). None of you that "care about saving lives" (LOL) have started any threads on it. Your anti-2A crusade is not about saving lives, you don't care about that, you care about your anti-2A agenda.

And all those smokers knew the risk, and people who hang around second hand smoke know the risk. The people killed didn't ask to be shot and killed. Not really comparable. Maybe start an anti smoking thread and we can discuss that topic there?
 
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This second hand smoke comparison is amusing for many reasons. Not the least of which why you can't smoke just about anywhere.

Shall we enact the same for gun carrying?
 
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pmv

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Just a reminder, since this shooting about 28500 people have died from tobacco. Almost 2500 of those are innocent victims of second hands smoke (more than every gun suicide, murder, accident, police shooting combined by some hundreds of lives). None of you that "care about saving lives" (LOL) have started any threads on it. Your anti-2A crusade is not about saving lives, you don't care about that, you care about your anti-2A agenda.

So how much effort, exactly, have you or those you vote for, put into protecting workers from exposure to workplace pollutants like second-hand smoke?

I remain a little bit skeptical, personally, about the claimed magnitude of the effects of second-hand smoking, but I'm nevertheless very happy that smoking has been progressively banned in many public places, if for no other reason than I find breathing in the stuff very unpleasant (in my lifetime it's gone from trains, buses, pubs, hospitals and most workplaces, and I recall being very unhappy with having to endure it in all those places, though at least in pubs there was some degree of consumer choice, not so with public transport). I find it amazing that smoking was ever allowed on the London Underground (it was almost certainly a dropped cigarette that started the Kings Cross fire that killed over 30 people).

Can you point to where your preferred politicians have worked to ban smoking in public places, please? And where they've tightened up workplace safety rules on other pollutants. Just so its clear you really do care about the issue and aren't just opportunistically using it as an excuse to do nothing about everything.
 

SlowSpyder

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And all those smokers knew the risk, and people who hang around second hand smoke know the risk. The people killed didn't ask to be shot and killed. Not really comparable. Maybe start an anti smoking thread and we can discuss that topic there?


Anti-2A'ers here very regularly include suicides (as they make up about 2/3 of all gun deaths) to inflate the numbers for their arguments. Some go so far as to actually blame guns for suicides as guns are more deadly in a suicide attempt than most other methods. So fair is fair.
 

SlowSpyder

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Here we go again.

tobacco
second hand smoke
care about lives
anti 2A agenda

You just copy and paste that from one of your bazillion other post of yours that say the-exact-Same-thing over and over. In the future just copy and past the four talking points it will save you some time.

You don't care about saving lives.
 

SlowSpyder

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So how much effort, exactly, have you or those you vote for, put into protecting workers from exposure to workplace pollutants like second-hand smoke?

I remain a little bit skeptical, personally, about the claimed magnitude of the effects of second-hand smoking, but I'm nevertheless very happy that smoking has been progressively banned in many public places, if for no other reason than I find breathing in the stuff very unpleasant (in my lifetime it's gone from trains, buses, pubs, hospitals and most workplaces, and I recall being very unhappy with having to endure it in all those places, though at least in pubs there was some degree of consumer choice, not so with public transport). I find it amazing that smoking was ever allowed on the London Underground (it was almost certainly a dropped cigarette that started the Kings Cross fire that killed over 30 people).

Can you point to where your preferred politicians have worked to ban smoking in public places, please? And where they've tightened up workplace safety rules on other pollutants. Just so its clear you really do care about the issue and aren't just opportunistically using it as an excuse to do nothing about everything.


Both guns and tobacco are restricted. Yet only guns are put under such a microscope because they scare people. But if you're about saving lives, if you are looking at what puts more cold bodies into the ground statistically, tobacco is well over a magnitude more deadly than guns, and no one ever starts a thread on it, no liberal politician is riding on a tobacco restriction platform. They don't care that this killer affects minorities more, but that is a banner argument against guns. No anti-2A'er cares about saving live, they care about further restricting guns, it is a partisan agenda, not some quest for a greater good.
 

SlowSpyder

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Edit. nevermind. Conflicting stats.

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm

  • Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.1
41000 / 365 = 112 dead innocent victims a day.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".

11208+505 = 11713

11713 / 365 = 32 dead innocent victims a day.


No matter how the anti2A crusaders try and frame it, not one of them cares about saving lives from lower hanging fruit. But when it is politically charged guns, then they're all about restricting personal freedoms of others to improve statistics.
 

pmv

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https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm

  • Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.1
41000 / 365 = 112 dead innocent victims a day.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".

11208+505 = 11713

11713 / 365 = 32 dead innocent victims a day.


No matter how the anti2A crusaders try and frame it, not one of them cares about saving lives from lower hanging fruit. But when it is politically charged guns, then they're all about restricting personal freedoms of others to improve statistics.


By the way - how _old_ are the victims of each? How many years of life are lost?
 

brycejones

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https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm

  • Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.1
41000 / 365 = 112 dead innocent victims a day.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".

11208+505 = 11713

11713 / 365 = 32 dead innocent victims a day.


No matter how the anti2A crusaders try and frame it, not one of them cares about saving lives from lower hanging fruit. But when it is politically charged guns, then they're all about restricting personal freedoms of others to improve statistics.

Same shit, different post.
 

soundforbjt

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https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm

  • Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.1
41000 / 365 = 112 dead innocent victims a day.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".

11208+505 = 11713

11713 / 365 = 32 dead innocent victims a day.


No matter how the anti2A crusaders try and frame it, not one of them cares about saving lives from lower hanging fruit. But when it is politically charged guns, then they're all about restricting personal freedoms of others to improve statistics.
Looks where tobacco is grown and produced...Red states
Who could most likely stop the production without Federal intervention? Red state governments...
Hmmm...
 
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urvile

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https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm

  • Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.1
41000 / 365 = 112 dead innocent victims a day.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".

11208+505 = 11713

11713 / 365 = 32 dead innocent victims a day.


No matter how the anti2A crusaders try and frame it, not one of them cares about saving lives from lower hanging fruit. But when it is politically charged guns, then they're all about restricting personal freedoms of others to improve statistics.

The main difference there is people choose to smoke and (hopefully) also understand the consequences. People don't choose to be randomly murdered by some lunatic armed with an assualt rifle that he bought at walmart. Can you see what you have posted isn't really a cogent argument? That it's comparing apples to oranges? If people were charged with murdering themselves because they chose to smoke it would make a lot more sense.

Perhaps doing a comparison with murders that involve people randomly dropping fridges from a great height onto other people would make more sense? Yeah?
 
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