How the hell do you take 20 long guns into a hotel room without anyone noticing?It says:
"All of this comes after The Wall Street Journal reported earlier today that “investigators found 18 to 20 firearms, some fully automatic, in a room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.” It is unclear whether a so-called “bump stock,” which allows semi-automatic rifles to simulate automatic rifle fire by using recoil from each shot to push the trigger into the shooter’s stationary trigger finger, were attached to the gun."
From reports, it seems like they believe he had two modified rifles although i can't confirm 100%
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-la...d-19-rifles-in-room-1506985512-htmlstory.html
This update is fairly recent and says 1 in hotel room modified.
omg this video is super raw. what a terrifying 5+ minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H80tAIFG2wM
Actually, he is not far off. Unalienable rights were mentioned in our Declaration of Independence. Our Founding Fathers were well read in John Locke, Francis Hutchinson, Hegel and even Martin Luther. These unalienable rights are inherent in our Constitution and the principles behind it. That is, we, the people gain our rights not by Government bestowing them upon us but rather they are inherent - natural - to us. The Bill of Rights are mentioned in several court cases and referred to as unalienable rights.
So before you go off the deep end again, perhaps a bit of fundamental College 101 American History would be good for you. And Natural Philosophy too.
Not sure how those rights are not given to you by the government. You have them because they are in the Constitution. The constitution was written by, and is protected by your countries political machinery.
Those rights are only "unalienable" by agreement, there's nothing intrinsic or natural about them.
This. Why don't other countries have these 'unalienable' rights then?
I deal in facts, you deal in hypotheticals. Most of the arab spring movement did not involve guns from the people.
Not sure how those rights are not given to you by the government. You have them because they are in the Constitution. The constitution was written by, and is protected by your countries political machinery.
Those rights are only "unalienable" by agreement, there's nothing intrinsic or natural about them.
Because they don't worship the same god?
Australia's major religion is Christianity with the major denominations including Catholic, Anglican, Uniting Church, Presbyterian and Reformed, Eastern Orthodox, Baptist and Lutheran. The two major denominations, Anglican and Catholic, account for 42.4% of the Australian population.
The Bill of Rights isn't supposed to grant rights, but mention the rights we have that are natural to us that government is to preserve and protect.
After the WTC bombing we chose to allow fertilizer to continue to be on the shelf too.
Where did these 'natural' rights come from?
How the hell do you take 20 long guns into a hotel room without anyone noticing?
I don't know exactly. For believers, god. For people like me, I think "natural right" sums it up.
Rights don't exist unless they are given. Who decided which rights are natural? Surely by deciding which are natural rights and which aren't you are deciding which rights to grant?The Bill of Rights isn't supposed to grant rights, but mention the rights we have that are natural to us that government is to preserve and protect.
It's remarkable how you always divert into "this other shit is just as bad". Booze. Tobacco. And now fertilizer. None of these things are built with killing in mind. They have other primary purposes.
When we start talking about things that kill then we necessarily need to consider what's to be killed & how many at a time. We need to recognize that modern firearms are built for a host of different kinds of that, from small game to elephants. We need to recognize that AR & AK type weapons are purpose built to kill a lot of people in a short period of time & that they represent a pinnacle of engineering in terms of doing that. That's really what they're good for & not much of anything else. The fact that civilian models are semi-auto changes that very little.
In civilian hands, they're just very, very dangerous toys until somebody decides to use them for their designed purpose.
We're American's and those are the rights that every single one of us share and we don't give a damn what you foreigners think about them.Rights don't exist unless they are given. Who decided which rights are natural? Surely by deciding which are natural rights and which aren't you are deciding which rights to grant?
Rights don't exist unless they are given. Who decided which rights are natural? Surely by deciding which are natural rights and which aren't you are deciding which rights to grant?
Negative, per how the US Constitution is laid out, there are certain rights which are defined as part of being a human being, right to free speech, bear arms in defense of oneself and one's country, freedom of religion, etc. That's how the US Constitution works, and how Americans expect shit to happen. To clarify, the Constitution doesn't grant anything, except limits on what the Govt can do. It simply states out what citizens have naturally, as part of being a citizen, and states that Govt can't do anything about that.Not sure how those rights are not given to you by the government. You have them because they are in the Constitution. The constitution was written by, and is protected by your countries political machinery.
Those rights are only "unalienable" by agreement, there's nothing intrinsic or natural about them.
Suitcases on a rollcart? Same way people haul anything else into a hotel room.How the hell do you take 20 long guns into a hotel room without anyone noticing?
By the writing of the Constitution, they do, other countries just oppress their citizenry and remove those rights. Aka, they alienate those rights from their citizens, the US doesn't.This. Why don't other countries have these 'unalienable' rights then?
Yup, lots of things are just very, very dangerous toys until someone uses them to evil intent. I refuse to look at guns in some other different light, especially as they kill us significantly less than other things no one really cares about.
That's a good point. I don't think we can get rid of guns and have long since stopped calling for it as it's time wasting and useless. However, the right to do anything doesn't mean it can't be discouraged via other means. Hell, we tax the living crap out of tobacco and it's worked wonders to reduce it's use. Maybe we should start taxing the living hell (3, 4, 5...more? times) of firearms, especially the assault type. As in tobacco, some of the money should be given to victims for treatment of 'attacks' and the likes.
Not unless you're prepared to argue the validity of the Constitution, and if you are, you've got a few hundred years of precedent to deconstruct. The US in it's current incarnation will fall before that document does in any significant way."Natural Rights" are a philosophical construct, based upon Reason. Thus they are mutable and can be changed based upon Reason.
Negative, per how the US Constitution is laid out, there are certain rights which are defined as part of being a human being, right to free speech, bear arms in defense of oneself and one's country, freedom of religion, etc. That's how the US Constitution works, and how Americans expect shit to happen. To clarify, the Constitution doesn't grant anything, except limits on what the Govt can do. It simply states out what citizens have naturally, as part of being a citizen, and states that Govt can't do anything about that.