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Jhhnn

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Sorry, do you have something to comment on regarding my statements? Or just nodding in self-confirmation at the person who's actually engaged in conversation?

Perhaps I was too subtle. I try to be polite.

I understand firearms. I grew up in a hunting family. Firearm selection is dependent on the prey. Not all firearms or cartridges are suitable for all prey or circumstances. Some are exceptionally suitable for particular prey & few others.

So, don't be coy. AR & AK style carbines are highly developed for killing a lot of people in a short period of time. That's really their intended use. Civilian versions are only slightly more tame. They have very limited utility in other applications. They're the preferred weapon of murderous bastards all over the world.

So, why do people insist on owning such a thing, anyway? Why do they want it so bad?
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Perhaps I was too subtle. I try to be polite.

I understand firearms. I grew up in a hunting family. Firearm selection is dependent on the prey. Not all firearms or cartridges are suitable for all prey or circumstances. Some are exceptionally suitable for particular prey & few others.

So, don't be coy. AR & AK style carbines are highly developed for killing a lot of people in a short period of time. That's really their intended use. Civilian versions are only slightly more tame. They have very limited utility in other applications. They're the preferred weapon of murderous bastards all over the world.

So, why do people insist on owning such a thing, anyway? Why do they want it so bad?
I suppose like any other enthusiasts, they want one because they want one. You could easily equate this to knife or sword collectors. Some may actually practice with them, but most probably just collect them because they want to, they like them, they like the history, physics, metallurgy, etc. More to the point, are knife collectors demonized, called out, called names, and generally speaking harassed (for various definitions of harassed) because they don't want their hobby taken from them?

Most people have one hobby or another, some of those involve objects which can be, or simply are, dangerous. We also happen to live in a world that, either through nature, ignorance, or cruelty, is dangerous. So why in the hell is one thing, above all others, targeted, when it makes up a relatively minuscule level of the actual danger that exists around us every day?
 
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Younigue

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Off topic: But I just watched a video montage of her (and a few others) melting down on election night. She's another that lives in melodrama.
better the drama than embracing your choice to remain stupid such as you have.
 

SlowSpyder

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its obvious
trump is an idiot
and his picks will be idiotic evil conservatives

I have plenty of reservations about Trump. But this one singular aspect, I think he'll put in pro-2A judges, and I appreciate that. I'm looking at that aspect alone in a vacuum. I may disagree with some other things Trump is for, but I am pro-2A and think there is a good chance judges he puts in place will also be. That is best for preserving our freedom.
 

Younigue

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Explain how, exactly.
The people he is appointing are disgusting who mean to press upon the people their bias, their religious stupidity, their discriminatory points of view... It goes on and on. They will dismantle anything that it's progressive and good for the people. Trump is a piece of filth and filth gravitates toward him, then he appoints them. Their ideals do not match up to the majority of Americans. That you support Trump appointing pigs, makes you a pig.

The math is pretty simple here. Did you forget to carry the 1?
 

mdram

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I have plenty of reservations about Trump. But this one singular aspect, I think he'll put in pro-2A judges, and I appreciate that. I'm looking at that aspect alone in a vacuum. I may disagree with some other things Trump is for, but I am pro-2A and think there is a good chance judges he puts in place will also be. That is best for preserving our freedom.

not just pro-2a, but pro-constitution
people that actually believe in it, and understand it
 
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Younigue

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You have absolutely nothing of substance to add to this conversation, zero, nilch, nada.
Thank you.

Now... you know a lot of words for zero... Are you trying to tell me something about yourself? That's getting too personal, we don't like each other like that.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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The people he is appointing are disgusting who mean to press upon the people their bias, their religious stupidity, their discriminatory points of view... It goes on and on. They will dismantle anything that it's progressive and good for the people. Trump is a piece of filth and filth gravitates toward him, then he appoints them. Their ideals do not match up to the majority of Americans. That you support Trump appointing pigs, makes you a pig.

The math is pretty simple here. Did you forget to carry the 1?


I'm not a conservative, there is plenty about modern conservatives I'm not for. But, if there is one area I am in lock step with the conservatives, it is the 2A. At least in this one single aspect, they are right and the left is wrong. It is that simple. I addressed this a few posts up, 2309.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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I'm not a conservative, there is plenty about modern conservatives I'm not for. But, if there is one area I am in lock step with the conservatives, it is the 2A. At least in this one single aspect, they are right and the left is wrong. It is that simple. I addressed this a few posts up, 2309.
The problem with the Republican party/conservatives right now, IMO, is that as a whole, they've lost touch with normality even moreso than the extreme Democrats have. If the conservative side were given an inch with 2A, they'd run with it so fast to privately owned Abrams, it'd make your head spin. They've been getting hammered (rightly so) by the left for so long, it'd turn into a whirlwind of giveaway legislation, I worry.
 

mdram

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The problem with the Republican party/conservatives right now, IMO, is that as a whole, they've lost touch with normality even moreso than the extreme Democrats have. If the conservative side were given an inch with 2A, they'd run with it so fast to privately owned Abrams, it'd make your head spin. They've been getting hammered (rightly so) by the left for so long, it'd turn into a whirlwind of giveaway legislation, I worry.

its already legal to own a tank, just expensive
 
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