You have to remember, the anti-2A'ers here are not thinking straight, it is all emotion and no logic. If he wants to think that quote is out of context because that protects his fragile (and incorrect) view of what reality is, anti-2A'ers will gladly create their own reality and substitute actual reality with it.
I suppose like any other enthusiasts, they want one because they want one. You could easily equate this to knife or sword collectors. Some may actually practice with them, but most probably just collect them because they want to, they like them, they like the history, physics, metallurgy, etc. More to the point, are knife collectors demonized, called out, called names, and generally speaking harassed (for various definitions of harassed) because they don't want their hobby taken from them?
Most people have one hobby or another, some of those involve objects which can be, or simply are, dangerous. We also happen to live in a world that, either through nature, ignorance, or cruelty, is dangerous. So why in the hell is one thing, above all others, targeted, when it makes up a relatively minuscule level of the actual danger that exists around us every day?
LOL, A battle you should forever take pride in. In the mind of a natural born loser you have to take your wins through imagination alone. Good on ya.see predictable
You sound more and more stupid with every post. You've a gift buddy!progressivism is not progress. its socialism pure and simple
In gun nutter reality if someone wants to take their guns then theymust be anti 2A people. Geezuz somebody take his computer rights away... Better yet, his free speech away. Just kidding but holy shit are you stupid!You have to remember, the anti-2A'ers here are not thinking straight, it is all emotion and no logic. If he wants to think that quote is out of context because that protects his fragile (and incorrect) view of what reality is, anti-2A'ers will gladly create their own reality and substitute actual reality with it.
LOL, A battle you should forever take pride in. In the mind of a natural born loser you have to take your wins through imagination alone. Good on ya.
The thing you nuts seem to be missing is that I'm not trying to win you over. You're wrong and very much married to it. Such a toxic relationship y'all have with 2A. 2A is ugly because of assholes. Freedom isn't guns. Yet weak simple minded folk bastardize it to sooth not only their fears but to make their dicks feel bigger (if a woman falls for that... She's too dumb to date) and to back up their chest beating. People with guns look stupid, not heroic or powerful and when I see people fighting for their gun rights I know that they are deeply frightened, insecure, stunted human beings. They're too ignorant to see it of course but then they're far too busy imagining how others see them with their big bad guns in their hands and convincing themselves it probably looks really hot. Here's the thing, they know they look like idiots, they believe they're not good enough to function in society with out a weapon to prove their worth, they know that their guns are crutches rather than safety from a big bad world. But then... Guns, more powerful and loyal than any gun owner could ever be.
No amount of debate will ever tear their cold dead hands from their guns because... Insecurity and stupidity's got them by the throat and their only safety word is freedom (like they deserve that kind of freedom some how).
So, sure, you win. Congratulations! You have a ridiculous penis.
Who's deflecting? I was answering your question as to why someone would want to own them, the answer is in my comment. The introspection is 'because some people want them'. There's no deflection there, that is honesty.Deflecting madly, huh? I asked for some probity & introspection, maybe even some honesty, but all I got was "I want it because I want it".
Yup, you take pride in the weirdest things.Yup you got me, I often strap on all my guns and go for a walk around town because I know it makes me look super cool and tough which is important because of my tiny penis. Thats also why I get the newest iPhone right away and drive a Tesla. Super micro penis.
Who's deflecting? I was answering your question as to why someone would want to own them, the answer is in my comment. The introspection is 'because some people want them'. There's no deflection there, that is honesty.
Why do you, personally, want them gone so badly? Why do you want to dictate what other people can do? Honestly.
At least you state your point directly.I want guns gone because stupid or bad people are allowed to own them. Obviously can't weed them out and also restrictions on them alone so let's just get rid of guns all together.
Yup, you take pride in the weirdest things.
Sympathies to your lady friend. Maybe one day you'll find some self-esteem and I bet it'll have nothing to do with you owning a gun. I recommend doing a good deed... Something like, oh I don't know, I'm just gonna spitball an idea atcha... Stop fighting against gun laws. Ya know, make the country great again.
What's the statistics on [civilian] gun owners saving lives with their guns?
Guns are for killing or harming, they serve no (statistically viable) other purpose.
If there's one thing we know about people protecting gun rights, it is that they are coldly rational and never let emotions cloud their thinking in any way.You have to remember, the anti-2A'ers here are not thinking straight, it is all emotion and no logic. If he wants to think that quote is out of context because that protects his fragile (and incorrect) view of what reality is, anti-2A'ers will gladly create their own reality and substitute actual reality with it.
In gun nutter reality if someone wants to take their guns then theymust be anti 2A people. Geezuz somebody take his computer rights away... Better yet, his free speech away. Just kidding but holy shit are you stupid!
Make your list and it can also be debated.At least you state your point directly.
Can we start naming other things we'd like gone because stupid or bad people are allowed to own them?
So you support every SCOTUS decision as is currently ruled?Also, if someone wants to take away guns, doesn't that mean that person is ant-2A? What part of the 2A do you support besides the right to own firearms then?
I'd rather not, just making a point at the (what I find to be) absurdity of banning $thing I don't like because $reason.Make your list and it can also be debated.
But please, make a new thread for it.
Hmm. So all bans are bad? Seems a weird position to take.I'd rather not, just making a point at the (what I find to be) absurdity of banning $thing I don't like because $reason.
Who's deflecting? I was answering your question as to why someone would want to own them, the answer is in my comment. The introspection is 'because some people want them'. There's no deflection there, that is honesty.
Why do you, personally, want them gone so badly? Why do you want to dictate what other people can do? Honestly.
Very, very situational. It's very rare to have an individual thing be the direct cause of a problem, and bans tend to be overly broad. There's some case of specific bans that are for good reason, like hunting bans to protect a specific pocket of ecology, but those are even usually paired with encouragement in the other direction, to help offset the 'problem'.Hmm. So all bans are bad? Seems a weird position to take.
Totally fair assessment, I'm sure the founders didn't see guns as 'toys' because they had more important shit on their plate, like founding a nation. Had they seen time advanced three hundred years, maybe they would have seen fit to include an asterix on that amendment which stated 'if weapons are necessary for survival or livelihood' or something, who knows."I want it because I want it" basically means "no reason" or more accurately "I'm avoiding that question & you can't make me answer".
What it comes down to is the difference between tools & toys. I'm confident that the founders saw firearms as tools. I'm also confident that they had absolutely no conception as to the nature of modern firearms or they might have seen things differently. As a society we have the right to limit the kinds of firearms available to the general public so long as there remains a wide variety of purpose built firearms available over the counter.
I mean, is there some reason people should be unconcerned when every nutbar militia wannabee in America owns an AR & uses them for political intimidation like in Charlottesville? When they rave on about non-existent gubmint tyranny & when the country is nutty enough to have actually elected Trump as President?
I'm concerned with one thing: unstable, violent individuals. I care not for the type, count, or destructive potential of individual arms currently available.
Why can't we stop individuals from becoming violent? Why limit it to 'well, let 'em stab, as long as they aren't shooting at people'.We obviously can't stop unstable violent individuals from acquiring firearms. We can't say when seemingly ordinary people will turn that corner, either. We can, however, limit their firepower & the damage done when it inevitably happens.
Or is having implements extremely well designed for mass murder as toys more important?
Poor oppressed gun owners.
Why can't we stop individuals from becoming violent? Why limit it to 'well, let 'em stab, as long as they aren't shooting at people'.
Yes, a violent individual with a firearm is more dangerous than a violent individual without. I could go on down the list of the crap that a violent individual can use that would be more dangerous than without, but I won't. I can go on down the list of the valuable usages of a firearm that a non-crazy might have. I can go on down the list of ways we might mitigate the damage done by a crazy with a gun, or mitigate the chances of a crazy having a gun, or mitigate the chances of a person going crazy with a gun, but I won't. Because it's all been said before, and generally, ignored.