Dude. You're way past the koolaid. You can't even debate that because it's beyond absurd. Are you currently doing acid? That's it isn't it? Because you man you are way out there.
........... Our right to bear arms is not "given" to us by the Constitution, it is an inalienable right, given by nature/God, that the government is specifically barred from taking away.
M60 or 240B?
I think this is somewhat debateable. There are very few philosophers I can think of who write extensively about the right to self-defense. The right to self-defense involves all sort of other rights (particularly ownership rights to space, property, person and body) which in and of themselves are pretty tough to establish as being intrinsic human rights. I'm not saying I'm against self-defense, but rather that the argument it's somehow an intrinsic portion of being a human being is something I think is unfounded other than being in our constitution. There are other freer and more ethically just societies that don't really think that specific right is a big issue. In example, the point of a government is to establish and define who has a monopoly on socially justified force. People don't have a right of self-defense against say the police if the police are justified in being in a certain place and doing a certain job. Nor does a prisoner have the right to final self-defense as he is being executed despite this being some sort of intrinsic dignified human right.I'm not a "right-winger" but a compelling argument for me is this. Every person has a right to defend their lives... To me the right to self-defense is natural and inherent.
I completely disagree. Don't forget people thought the right to own slaves was God given as well. Is weapon ownership a God given right? Some people would argue there is never justification to take another life, even if you yourself are being murdered. I don't agree with that but I think that argument probably has better philosophical (and religious) grounds than your argument that weapon ownership is a God given right.Our right to bear arms is not "given" to us by the Constitution, it is an inalienable right, given by nature/God, that the government is specifically barred from taking away.
He may be onto something...Dude. You're way past the koolaid. You can't even debate that because it's beyond absurd. Are you currently doing acid? That's it isn't it? Because you man you are way out there.
Doesn't work though.
Dude. You're way past the koolaid. You can't even debate that because it's beyond absurd. Are you currently doing acid? That's it isn't it? Because you man you are way out there.
About times someone got some balls and did something that would make a difference.
New gun laws.
Ban all guns except registered pistols and real hunting rifles. No large clips for pistols or rifles. One type of gun per person. Limit amount of ammunition you can purchase per month. Buy back programs for them, after 2 years it would be a felony to own unless you have a special permit (rare.) No open carry at all period! No concealed carry unless you have a damn good reason. No immediate gun purchases, Complete background check, 10 day waiting list. If you purchase a gun you first have to take a firearm safety class.
Fuck you if you don't like them.
About times someone got some balls and did something that would make a difference.
New gun laws.
Ban all guns except registered pistols and real hunting rifles. No large clips for pistols or rifles. One type of gun per person. Limit amount of ammunition you can purchase per month. Buy back programs for them, after 2 years it would be a felony to own unless you have a special permit (rare.) No open carry at all period! No concealed carry unless you have a damn good reason. No immediate gun purchases, Complete background check, 10 day waiting list. If you purchase a gun you first have to take a firearm safety class.
Fuck you if you don't like them.
I think that Sandy Hook already underlined that this is a tithe that the nation is willing to pay.
100% this.
After the WTC bombing we chose to allow fertilizer to continue to be on the shelf too.
Doesn't work though.
Like I said, 100% that. We're willing to sacrifice people in tithe. It's pretty simple really. Just live (or die for the unlucky few) the best that you can.
After the WTC bombing we chose to allow fertilizer to continue to be on the shelf too.
Fertilizer is not designed to kill people. Guns are.
Isn't that just about what every freedom is though?
Because no one ever went on mass killings with anything other than guns...
Also, with what you want, when the states become a police state you are going to be hard pressed to start a revolution.
Also, short sighted, because if a person wants a gun bad enough, it will be just like drugs...easy to get. That whole "marijuana is illegal" thing has worked out so well.
You're the real victim here.The "illness" manifests itself once again.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...athy-for-vegas-vics-probably-republicans.html
Just some freedoms (rights) are more important than other freedoms (rights). We're willing to sacrifice the freedoms (and TOP right) of people (59 today and rising)....so be it.
Show me which revolution didn't obtain guns illegally. American Revolution certainly did.
How many revolutions would have been started by the oppressed, or maybe even not needed if the populace had guns though?
I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but today 112 innocent people will die from 2nd hand smoke. Tomorrow it'll be the same, and the day after. And no one cares on near the level they care about limiting the 2A.
I deal in facts, you deal in hypotheticals. Most of the arab spring movement did not involve guns from the people.