Latest CNN Trump approval ratings sink to 35%, the lowest yet

[Sheik Yerbouti]

how can a third of americans think highly of that shaved chimp in a shatner wig?

chimps do not deserve this insult.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Which poll called Trumps win back in November? As I recall there was only one that got it right, but I don't remember who. That's the outfit you want to pay attention to.

We really gonna do this again? Polls predict vote, not EC breakdown. The polls were right. Hillary won the vote by the margins predicted.

 

[fskimospy]

Which poll called Trumps win back in November? As I recall there was only one that got it right, but I don't remember who. That's the outfit you want to pay attention to.

If a national opinion poll called Trump winning that would have been pretty wrong considering he lost by about 2%. I think you’re referring to the LA Times poll, but that one was extremely inaccurate.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Which poll called Trumps win back in November? As I recall there was only one that got it right, but I don't remember who. That's the outfit you want to pay attention to.

Nate Silver................. errr wait. Nevermind.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

We really gonna do this again? Polls predict vote, not EC breakdown. The polls were right. Hillary won the vote by the margins predicted.

Except the polls were on which candidate was going to win the electoral college, not on which candidate would get the most useless popular vote.

 

[fskimospy]

Except the polls were on which candidate was going to win the electoral college, not on which candidate would get the most useless popular vote.

No, they weren’t.

 

[woolfe9998]

Except the polls were on which candidate was going to win the electoral college, not on which candidate would get the most useless popular vote.

Uh, there's actually no way to "poll" the electoral college. You can only poll voters. I would think that was obvious.

Some people who analyzed polls tried to project the electoral college outcome, but it wasn't the pollsters who did that. The pollsters were actually quite accurate on the popular vote.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Uh, there's actually no way to "poll" the electoral college. You can only poll voters. I would think that was obvious.

Some people who analyzed polls tried to project the electoral college outcome, but it wasn't the pollsters who did that. The pollsters were actually quite accurate on the popular vote.

Uh, yes, you poll by state. What kind of dumbshit wouldn't take the States into account.

 

[UberNeuman]

chimps do not deserve this insult.

nor does Shatner's wig.

 

[mikeymikec]

Good ol' Rasmussen.

Like comedy, but in poll form.

The Telegraph makes for hilarious reading these days: George Soros donated to an anti-Brexit campaign, was alleged by the Telegraph to be "backing a secret plot to overturn Brexit", and they spend their time sucking Trump's dick until he comes out with yet another load of racist bile (then they denounce him), then they go back to sucking his dick within a few days.

 

[Meghan54]

Except the polls were on which candidate was going to win the electoral college, not on which candidate would get the most useless popular vote.

Damn, you REALLY ARE that stupid, aren't you? And I thought it was an act.

 

[cytg111]

The Telegraph makes for hilarious reading these days: George Soros donated to an anti-Brexit campaign, was alleged by the Telegraph to be "backing a secret plot to overturn Brexit", and they spend their time sucking Trump's dick until he comes out with yet another load of racist bile (then they denounce him), then they go back to sucking his dick within a few days.

People are waking up to a new level of targetted propaganda and a united right wing front across the globe.. we werent ready for it with the US elections and Brexit ... but I suspect we are now! If there is any possible way to give the englishmen a chance at the votingbooths again...

 

[mikeymikec]

People are waking up to a new level of targetted propaganda and a united right wing front across the globe.. we werent ready for it with the US elections and Brexit ... but I suspect we are now! If there is any possible way to give the englishmen a chance at the votingbooths again...

I doubt the English are ready yet. IMO there are too many political problems in recent decades that have been swept under the carpet (it needs someone in a position of political prominence to speak the truth regarding say Iraq II or Brexit). Brexit has yet to play out. Maybe once it has, and the people have sampled the taste of that shit sandwich (and/or the conservative party has imploded due to infighting), then maybe some shit can be put to rest. While I agree that it's a politically bad idea to dwell on mistakes too much (a campaign must be driven by positivity), I think there's a shyness to do it at all which makes politicans in general look equally complicit and not learning from their mistakes. To avoid mentioning those mistakes means we'll go on with Brexit, and even a soft Brexit will damage the UK's trust in its politicians. A hard Brexit could result in the far right getting into power.

I have no idea what America's problem is. Perhaps for most people it's as simple as needing someone with sufficient charisma and idealism as well as 'an honest face' in order to defeat Trump. I wonder whether America's problem is similar to the UK's in that the disillusioned and disadvantaged are easily led. Maybe that's the problem the world over.

 

[WelshBloke]

I thought the consensus was that the Republican Party was destroyed in the 2016 elections when Hillary was elected President and the Democrats took control of the Senate?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/07/how-trump-destroyed-the-gops-best-laid-plans.html

That probably would have been a much better result for the Republicans than the one they got tbh.

 

[woolfe9998]

Uh, yes, you poll by state. What kind of dumbshit wouldn't take the States into account.

If you followed the state by state polling, you know that it was quite accurate. Even in the "surprise" rust belt states they only had Clinton up by 3, while Trump won those by less than a point. Also, the state by state polling is done by a different set of pollsters. The "big media" polls only do popular vote.

It's a myth that the polling was far off in 2016. It was arguably worse in 2012.

 

[Puffnstuff]

nor does Shatner's wig.

What a wig it is.

 

[soundforbjt]

People are waking up to a new level of targetted propaganda and a united right wing front across the globe.. we werent ready for it with the US elections and Brexit ... but I suspect we are now! If there is any possible way to give the englishmen a chance at the votingbooths again...

I like the Pope’s take on fake news:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...fake-news-to-people-who-are-excited-by-feces/

 

[Glaring_Mistake]

Which poll called Trumps win back in November? As I recall there was only one that got it right, but I don't remember who. That's the outfit you want to pay attention to.

Ok, this was the last poll from Rasmussen before the election 2016: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...lections/election_2016/white_house_watch_nov7

That poll puts Clinton at 2 points above Trump (which also was the difference) so that is accurate.
So it looks like they would have favored Clinton over Trump as the winner (after that poll at least).

Because it's not like it would have been easy to predict that Trump would win by small margins in a few states.


Edited because I mistook Sabato's prediction for Rasmussen's.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Ok, this was the last poll from Rasmussen before the election 2016: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...lections/election_2016/white_house_watch_nov7

That poll puts Clinton at 2 points above Trump (which also was the difference) so that is accurate.
So it looks like they would have favored Clinton over Trump as the winner (after that poll at least).

Because it's not like it would have been easy to predict that Trump would win by small margins in a few states.


Edited because I mistook Sabato's prediction for Rasmussen's.

So Rasmussen was basically spot on, but now differs from some other polls by 15 points! ...........15 points! of course Rasmussen is now way off and biased according to our dearly beloved resident lefties.

 

[umbrella39]

LOL if anyone thinks Trump approval rating is near 50% you are both a fucktard and a TrumpTard... not a good combination...

 

[fskimospy]

So Rasmussen was basically spot on, but now differs from some other polls by 15 points! ...........15 points! of course Rasmussen is now way off and biased according to our dearly beloved resident lefties.

538's rankings take all of Rasmussen's polling into account and find them to be of middling accuracy with a significant Republican bias. They've been like this for a long time. If you simply care about what's factually true then you should be perfectly willing to admit this. It's just math, after all. I did like how you seamlessly shifted from 'you can't trust the other polls as they thought Clinton would win' to 'look how good Rasmussen was!' when it matched results from the same pollsters you were just trying to discredit. hahaha.

Rasmussen is (and has always been) also applying a likely voter screen, which is something that is generally considered inadvisable so far away from an election as it's very hard to know what the electorate will look like and it's not public or transparent. It also makes their numbers not directly comparable with other polls, which ask either all adults or all registered voters. ie: it's an outlier for a reason. If that makes you feel good emotionally then by all means enjoy yourself. If you actually care what the best representation of Trump's approval is though, it's somewhere around 39%.

 

[Bitek]

Uh, yes, you poll by state. What kind of dumbshit wouldn't take the States into account.

You start with that, then you need to consider 10-20 states worth of voter turnout and poll uncertainty and run simulations on the permutations.

If you actually read 538, you would see he created probability distribution graphs of EC results where Clinton victory was the most probable outcome, but was not guaranteed.

 

[PS85]

The poll which shows Trump at 50% approval is the Rasmussen Poll.
In 2000, the day before the election, the Rasmussen Poll showed Bush 10 points ahead of Gore in the popular vote. No, I'm not kidding.

So much for the Rasmussen Poll.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

You start with that, then you need to consider 10-20 states worth of voter turnout and poll uncertainty and run simulations on the permutations.

If you actually read 538, you would see he created probability distribution graphs of EC results where Clinton victory was the most probable outcome, but was not guaranteed.

He should have stuck to baseball.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

The poll which shows Trump at 50% approval is the Rasmussen Poll.
In 2000, the day before the election, the Rasmussen Poll showed Bush 10 points ahead of Gore in the popular vote. No, I'm not kidding.

So much for the Rasmussen Poll.

Cute and as accurate as most Democrats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasmussen_Reports
Rasmussen Reports is an American polling company, founded in 2003.