Latest Core i7 release date info

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Gary Key
There is an NDA on the NDA lift date for i7/X58. Anyway, all I can say is that boards are in production now and retail kits will start arriving late next. Production samples have been around for the last week or so for BIOS tuning purposes.

Exciting times in the benchtest labs I bet

Care to share any similiar perceptions on Deneb?

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: Gary Key
There is an NDA on the NDA lift date for i7/X58. Anyway, all I can say is that boards are in production now and retail kits will start arriving late next. Production samples have been around for the last week or so for BIOS tuning purposes.

They will arrive late next what? Will there be the 3 models: Core i7 965, 940, 920?

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

Originally posted by: Gary Key
There is an NDA on the NDA lift date for i7/X58. Anyway, all I can say is that boards are in production now and retail kits will start arriving late next. Production samples have been around for the last week or so for BIOS tuning purposes.

They will arrive late next what? Will there be the 3 models: Core i7 965, 940, 920?

That was an intentional grammatical error. Any more info and the nda on the nda would have been tested. You gots to fill in the blank with the most probable missing word...late next week, late next month, etc. Either way it needs to be a "you said it, not me" situation for the NDA holder

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

:roll: Intel is being really paranoid. I mean come on, it is less than a month away for Pete's sake. I want to actually plan what I'm buying. I guess I have to wait for everything to be reviewed AFTER it's released. YOU HEAR THAT INTEL, YOU'RE DELAYING MY PURCHASE!

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
YOU HEAR THAT INTEL, YOU'RE DELAYING MY PRUCHASE!

It pleasures Intel to hear this.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

This guy says the NDA will be lifted Novmeber 13. He has many pictures of the Foxconn motherboard.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/F...?p=3328214#post3328214

Here are pictures of the GIGABYTE board.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/...l_geared_up/index.html

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
This guy says the NDA will be lifted Novmeber 13. He has many pictures of the Foxconn motherboard.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/F...?p=3328214#post3328214

Here are pictures of the GIGABYTE board.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/...l_geared_up/index.html

This goes in-line with the suspected ETA 11-14-2008.

http://forums.overclockers.com...d.php?t=705932&page=21

Motherboards already for sale

 

[walk2k]

Have to say, at those prices I'm glad I didn't wait.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: walk2k
Have to say, at those prices I'm glad I didn't wait.

I know a ton of people who felt that way once the hype over skulltrail faded and the prices and practicality finally started to settle in. (myself included)

8 threads at 4GHz with 12GB of DDR3-1600 sound downright sexy and god-like...but the sticker shock followed by the questions of "just how practical is this?" is going to be a real downer in my opinion.

I think many folks are going to be excited to read about nehalem, and will live vicariously thru their forum friends who do buy one, but then they are going to look at the price/performance ratio relative to a DDR2-based Deneb or penryn based system and they are going to buy such a system and spend a little extra on their video card.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: walk2k
Have to say, at those prices I'm glad I didn't wait.

I know a ton of people who felt that way once the hype over skulltrail faded and the prices and practicality finally started to settle in. (myself included)

8 threads at 4GHz with 12GB of DDR3-1600 sound downright sexy and god-like...but the sticker shock followed by the questions of "just how practical is this?" is going to be a real downer in my opinion.

I think many folks are going to be excited to read about nehalem, and will live vicariously thru their forum friends who do buy one, but then they are going to look at the price/performance ratio relative to a DDR2-based Deneb or penryn based system and they are going to buy such a system and spend a little extra on their video card.

First of all, the prices are in Australian and aren't even official. The reason the prices are so high is because they haven't been released yet. I think those websites are hosting a scam. Remember the Xbox 360 prices on Ebay? MSI is making three motherboards, do you really think they are all going to be over $250? Let the products be released first, then we will talk about pricing. Remember, we still have Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and Christams deals coming up.

 

[stipalgl]

Agreed about the price/performance ratio. Unless you're an enthusiast who lives off the latest and greatest, or someone in the business of running numerous applications at once, it makes little sense to spend roughly twice the amount for nearly similar performance in day to day applications that the average user will make use of.

Another thing I want to point out, is that this is a different phase than the P4 to Core 2 shift. Back then, it was well known that Intel was a step behind AMD and they desperately needed a fresh injection of an entirely different architecture to shed their poor image. As a result, they did what was necessary to make that impressive performance leap because they were inclined to. It made sense for many to upgrade in the following few months as there were several notable advantages between the two platforms.

Fast forward to today and Intel is not quite in the same boat. They already have a strong lead/following and therefore don't have that same "back against the wall" mentality. The Core 2's are currently already the top of the line and perform admirably. Not many (if any at all) are complaining about the current offerings. This current state for Intel naturally puts them in a comfortable position where they don't necessarily have to deliver yet another large performance gap as before. Therefore it makes sense that no real noticeable advantages take place between the two architectures in terms of single and double threaded applications.

I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't truly suffer by opting for a Core 2 platform for the time being.

 

[AuDioFreaK39]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
This guy says the NDA will be lifted Novmeber 13. He has many pictures of the Foxconn motherboard.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/F...?p=3328214#post3328214

Here are pictures of the GIGABYTE board.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/...l_geared_up/index.html

This goes in-line with the suspected ETA 11-14-2008.

http://forums.overclockers.com...d.php?t=705932&page=21

Motherboards already for sale

Goes exactly in line with what Fudo told me as well:

http://img509.imageshack.us/im...2/nehalemlaunchem7.png

If the QX9650 launched on a Monday, November 12, 2007, then it looks like we have our release date guys!


Monday, November 17, 2008


I'll be keeping an active eye on the buy/sell section of AnandTech and XS for any early deals.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: jones377

Originally posted by: taltamir
Octa CORE, not octa THREAD... they will have to go 32nm before they could put 8 cores on a one package.

Google Xeon, Beckton...

Interesting...
It is slated for second half of 09... which is pretty close to the 32nm release (4th quarter 09), did intel itself specify it will be 45nm?

 

[AuDioFreaK39]

omg BIOS SCREENSHOTS!

http://www.abload.de/img/079i7.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/0109g.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/08j8s.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/04cqv.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/03dd8.jpg

Source: http://forum.coolaler.com/show...ad.php?t=191367&page=1

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: AuDioFreaK39
http://www.abload.de/img/08j8s.jpg

Finally a performance tab in the BIOS that looks to be all about helping you accomplish precisely that.

 

[jones377]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: jones377

Originally posted by: taltamir
Octa CORE, not octa THREAD... they will have to go 32nm before they could put 8 cores on a one package.

Google Xeon, Beckton...

Interesting...
It is slated for second half of 09... which is pretty close to the 32nm release (4th quarter 09), did intel itself specify it will be 45nm?

Xeon MP parts are about 1 year behind in process tech coming out of Intel. 1 year ago Intel was still selling Tulsa (90nm Netburst based!) before it was replaced by Tigerton (65nm) and now just recently Dunnington 45nm). All info I have seen about it suggests 45nm. Besides, if 32nm is slated for Q409 it wouldn't make sense to say Beckton will come out in H209 would it?

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: jones377

Originally posted by: taltamir
Octa CORE, not octa THREAD... they will have to go 32nm before they could put 8 cores on a one package.

Google Xeon, Beckton...

Interesting...
It is slated for second half of 09... which is pretty close to the 32nm release (4th quarter 09), did intel itself specify it will be 45nm?

Gelsinger was brandishing a Beckton 300mm wafer at IDF this spring. It is a 45nm product, about 500mm^2. No bigger than a GTX280 chip or a Dunnington.

Remember Dunnington, a 45nm product, has 6 cores with 9MB L2$ and 16MB L3$. Beckton has 8 cores but only 2MB L2$ and 16MB L3$.

It won't be too much bigger than the already shipping Dunnington.

 

[taltamir]

thanks for the info idontcare, still it is beastly...
jones, H2 09 = Q3 or Q4.... and a lot of time it ends up being Q4... however that is usually by mistake, it wouldn't make sense to use both terms interchangeably, but it was a possibility i entertained that they had a schedule adjustment that was not accounted for.
But i guess this is going to be a 45nm monolith. (err, monosilicate?)

 

[Idontcare]

Oh its beastly all right. Don't expect anyone in our income bracket to be sporting them as a desktop system. Think $3k-$4k per socket. The poor-man's Beckton (i.e. Nehalem skulltrail) will be far cheaper than even a single Beckton CPU.

 

[Tempered81]

NDA is lifted Nov. 13th.
Found that info in the Foxconn Renaissance X58 Digital Life thread here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=203350


Edit: oops old news.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

http://forum.msi.com.tw/index....topic=120489.msg910124 This thread confirms November 17 although that is the U.K. release. Also one of the replies said November 10.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Okay the processors are available for pre-order on a UK website. According to them the ETA is 10/31/2008.

Prices converted to USD:

920 $390
940 $710
965 $1243

For comparison a Q9550 runs for $355. That just shows you how overpriced processors are in the UK. A Q9550 runs for $280 in the U.S. So it makes a difference of ~ 1.27.

Realistic prices:

920 $307
940 $559
965 $978

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/...701&catid=6&subid=1272

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/...hock%20PC3-15000%20RAM

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/...hock%20PC3-15000%20RAM

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Okay the processors are available for pre-order on a UK website. According to them the ETA is 10/31/2008.

Prices converted to USD:

920 $390
940 $710
965 $1243

Ouch, that's not even including VAT at 17.5% in the UK. (which makes that 920 cost $459 USD)

Hopefully this is just a case of early bird gets to pay the most for the worm.

Personally G0's and E0's have taught me a lot about Intel's initial-release versus subsequent major stepping release. If I were to jump aboard Nehalem I'd be waiting for that next major stepping to come in 3-6 months. Not that the C1's will disappoint, but you know the next stepping is coming.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Wouldn't VAT be sales tax in the US?

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Wouldn't VAT be sales tax in the US?

Well no state has 17.5% sales tax (some try their best to come close though), but I don't know too many people who pay sales tax on their internet purchases.

WA state loves to take 8% from their residents on all internet orders that ship from a warehouse inside the state's borders, but TX and PA do not.

I pay the listed price on Newegg, plus shipping unless I seek out those free shipping deals, and no sales tax. Could be different in 4yrs though, could be very different.

My point is just that no one in the UK is ordering those 920's and paying less than 259GBP (plus shipping) from that specific pre-order store so it is kinda pointless of the webstore to post the price as 219GBP. Just as no one here in the US lists the price of gas as the price you pay before adding state/county/federal/city taxes to it.