Latest Core i7 release date info

[taltamir]

what is the deal with the ram. are you saying that intel says that nehalem can not safely support ram with more then 1.6 volts? and since the DDR3 voltage is 1.5v by default, and many high end ram modules START at +0.3volts above spec, well... yea I am seeing a problem. is there a link to intel's official statement about he issue?

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: taltamir
what is the deal with the ram. are you saying that intel says that nehalem can not safely support ram with more then 1.6 volts? and since the DDR3 voltage is 1.5v by default, and many high end ram modules START at +0.3volts above spec, well... yea I am seeing a problem. is there a link to intel's official statement about he issue?

Why would intel release a public statement about the specific hazaards of overclocking/overvolting something that hasn't officially been released yet?

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: taltamir
what is the deal with the ram. are you saying that intel says that nehalem can not safely support ram with more then 1.6 volts? and since the DDR3 voltage is 1.5v by default, and many high end ram modules START at +0.3volts above spec, well... yea I am seeing a problem. is there a link to intel's official statement about he issue?

Yes, but there is some that runs at 1.5v, its not cheap though....

 

[AuDioFreaK39]

Originally posted by: taltamir
what is the deal with the ram. are you saying that intel says that nehalem can not safely support ram with more then 1.6 volts? and since the DDR3 voltage is 1.5v by default, and many high end ram modules START at +0.3volts above spec, well... yea I am seeing a problem. is there a link to intel's official statement about he issue?

See below:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...3339108&postcount=1504

Originally posted by: AuDioFreaK39
Yeah but Drwho? is an extreme ES tester and he's saying that no one should be running these things over 1.8v.

Posted by: Drwho? (he works for Intel) from the XtremeSystems forums:

Ok, let's clarify this forever ... if you run the voltage of the Dimm higher, you will impact the life span of your processor, it is like every overclocking, it is the non obvious impact. Now, if you choose to reduce the life to few weeks by going crazy on the vDIMM, it is your choice, just do not complain about it Now, I did run up to 2.2Volts, being careful, just be aware that transistors are like light switch, if you take a light switch of 110 Volts, and make it commute thousands of time with 220 volts, the switch will burn out ... that's what you get when you OC ... and now look at the amplitude of regular OC. Most of the people take a CPU that have based Voltage around 1.1 to 1.3 (depending of brand and model) and they overclock it to 1.4, 1.5, the best OC masters do 1.9 to 2.0 Volts... Higher, you got to mod the vReg. now, people see 1.5Volts, and many are talking about 2.0 to 2.2Volts for the vDimm. This is a higher amplitude than what the masters of OC do on the CPU Voltage, so, the recommendation we (Intel) are putting out is simple ... 1.65volts is 10% ... if you go higher, dont get to 70% directly, go there slowly, and if you do , you ll see that with 1.8Volts, you ll get between 2000Mhz to 2200Mhz depending of your luck on your dimms. So, there is not problem of vDimm, we are just warning because it is new, and I don t want a young kid spending all of his saving for his dream CPU to finish into a because the guy did not read the The force is strong with Core i7, , and I want every body to enjoy it as it is , without silly mistake to spoil the party.

Hopefully that clears things up in this thread.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Posted by: Drwho? (he works for Intel) from the XtremeSystems forums:

I don t want a young kid spending all of his saving for his dream CPU to finish...

[/quote]

He was obviously referring to me.

 

[fgsky8526]

I am new flash blood here, I come from China. Maybe I know what you want to know about Intel i7 CPU. Because I am using it now. I don't always come here. If you want to know the details ,you can add my MSN ID.(justinfeng@live.com)

 

[AuDioFreaK39]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

Posted by: Drwho? (he works for Intel) from the XtremeSystems forums:

I don t want a young kid spending all of his saving for his dream CPU to finish...

He was obviously referring to me.





he was referring to me because he looked in my XS profile and saw that I'm 17.

either way, the message applies to all of us young OC'ers out there.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: taltamir
what is the deal with the ram. are you saying that intel says that nehalem can not safely support ram with more then 1.6 volts? and since the DDR3 voltage is 1.5v by default, and many high end ram modules START at +0.3volts above spec, well... yea I am seeing a problem. is there a link to intel's official statement about he issue?

Yes, but there is some that runs at 1.5v, its not cheap though....

Well... you don't really need to buy special ram, the standard with ram has been to post max OC levels on all modules. Typically ram would advertise 0.3 or volts more then the JEDEC standard to achive the speeds it specifies (and have no further OC room at all), but if you are willing to run it a little slower it will do the defualt (1.5 for DDR3, or 1.8 for DDR2). Many even default to running at a predetermined looser timing setting using the default voltage, requiring the customer to increase both the voltage and tighten the timing to the advertised specs.


AuDioFreaK39: thanks for clarifying.

 

[Beavermatic]

WaitingForNehalem.... looks like your username will be good for the next year or so...

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/...ehalem,news-28994.html

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/14510/53/

Nehalem to launch Oct 2009... sorry

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: Beavermatic
WaitingForNehalem.... looks like your username will be good for the next year or so...

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/...ehalem,news-28994.html

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/14510/53/

Nehalem to launch Oct 2009... sorry

First look at the article date: Thursday 21 August 2008. Second, read more closley. What they mean is that the mainstream/value processors will come Q4 2009.

The mass market will not be seeing these new wunderkind processors for at least nine months.

Get with the game.

 

[Beavermatic]

So that means people like you and I wont be spending cash on them anytime soon if the mainstream\value processors wont be coming out the door until q4 2009.

I've also read reports that they do not compete well against current Core 2 Quad's in games, that the current gen still outperforms them a bit (read that on some articles and the wiki)

Would you be investing into this processor for games, or something else?

 

[walk2k]

Uhm, that 2nd article is from September 2007

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: Beavermatic
So that means people like you and I wont be spending cash on them anytime soon if the mainstream\value processors wont be coming out the door until q4 2009.

I've also read reports that they do not compete well against current Core 2 Quad's in games, that the current gen still outperforms them a bit (read that on some articles and the wiki)

Would you be investing into this processor for games, or something else?

No, that means people like you won't be buying until then. He could be buying into the Performance/Extreme which comes out in a few months. I know I will most likely be.

Also, Nehalem isn't focusing on improving gaming benchmarks. It's more about everything else. It will most likely perform on tap with current gen gaming benchmarks maybe 10% faster in some cases. It will however be likely to perform 25%+ faster in things like encoding, 3d modeling, etc.

Your still behind in times...

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: AmberClad
First couple of weeks of November according to Fud.

So I've been meaning to ask you this -- what were you planning on doing after Core i7 eventuallly comes out? You'll be in the same boat as forum members such as "Dothan", "Conroe", and "x2 3600 rules sazakky"...

I should have just stuck with my E6600 and 975X and not upgraded to an E8400 and P35. I bought into the hype of the penryn refresh and yes while it's faster I didn't really notice a significant difference that warranted an upgrade. This cost me $$$ for no reason other than epeen gloating and i regret it now Hopefully i can resist the next latest and greatest thing for a while!!!!! Think I can last 3-4 years without upgrading?!

 

[Martimus]

There is more info on the RAM voltage issue posted on the Anandtech main page. I was surprized to see it there considering the NDA.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: Martimus
There is more info on the RAM voltage issue posted on the Anandtech main page. I was surprized to see it there considering the NDA.

Interesting info. BTW, what kinda asshole leaves a comment like, "who cares?"

THANK YOU GARY FOR THAT INFORMATION.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: AmberClad
First couple of weeks of November according to Fud.

So I've been meaning to ask you this -- what were you planning on doing after Core i7 eventuallly comes out? You'll be in the same boat as forum members such as "Dothan", "Conroe", and "x2 3600 rules sazakky"...

I should have just stuck with my E6600 and 975X and not upgraded to an E8400 and P35. I bought into the hype of the penryn refresh and yes while it's faster I didn't really notice a significant difference that warranted an upgrade. This cost me $$$ for no reason other than epeen gloating and i regret it now Hopefully i can resist the next latest and greatest thing for a while!!!!! Think I can last 3-4 years without upgrading?!

Nope. If you couldn't resist upgrading to a tick, how will you avoid a tock? You really should have stuck with the E6600.

Originally posted by: Beavermatic
So that means people like you and I wont be spending cash on them anytime soon if the mainstream\value processors wont be coming out the door until q4 2009.

I've also read reports that they do not compete well against current Core 2 Quad's in games, that the current gen still outperforms them a bit (read that on some articles and the wiki)

Would you be investing into this processor for games, or something else?

I will definitely be buying Core i7. That's all I've been talking about for a long time. I don't trust the reviews provided by Hardspell at all. Even if they are accurate, they didn't use the final product. Intel said there would be a 52% increase in 3d gaming. Yes, I'm investing in my new gaming pc. Unlike most people here, I don't need benchmarks to tell me my current pc is slow. :laugh:

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
I definitely be buying Core i7. That's all I've been talking about for a long time.

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Yes, I'm investing in my new gaming pc.

 

[Beavermatic]

If these are your specs as you say they are:

P4HT 3.2 GHz Prescott
MSI 661FM-L
ATI Radeon X850XT
2 GB DDR 400 OCZ Platinum XTC
Apevia X-Dreamer II
WD 120GB and 160GB
OCZ StealthXStream 600W PSU


All I can say is you better be on your knees praying that Nehalem isn't delayed
You definetely need a new machine.


I just dropped a few bucks on a q9550 a few days ago, but if I see nehalem is worthwhile when its released in the next couple months as you say it will be, I'll prolly chuck this current cpu on craigslist, and grab a performance-grade i7

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: Beavermatic
If these are your specs as you say they are:

P4HT 3.2 GHz Prescott
MSI 661FM-L
ATI Radeon X850XT
2 GB DDR 400 OCZ Platinum XTC
Apevia X-Dreamer II
WD 120GB and 160GB
OCZ StealthXStream 600W PSU


All I can say is you better be on your knees praying that Nehalem isn't delayed
You definetely need a new machine.


I just dropped a few bucks on a q9550 a few days ago, but if I see nehalem is worthwhile when its released in the next couple months as you say it will be, I'll prolly chuck this current cpu on craigslist, and grab a performance-grade i7

They are. Core i7 is coming out either this month or next. You should have waited.

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: AmberClad
First couple of weeks of November according to Fud.

So I've been meaning to ask you this -- what were you planning on doing after Core i7 eventuallly comes out? You'll be in the same boat as forum members such as "Dothan", "Conroe", and "x2 3600 rules sazakky"...

I should have just stuck with my E6600 and 975X and not upgraded to an E8400 and P35. I bought into the hype of the penryn refresh and yes while it's faster I didn't really notice a significant difference that warranted an upgrade. This cost me $$$ for no reason other than epeen gloating and i regret it now Hopefully i can resist the next latest and greatest thing for a while!!!!! Think I can last 3-4 years without upgrading?!

Nope. If you couldn't resist upgrading to a tick, how will you avoid a tock? You really should have stuck with the E6600.

hahaha thanks for your vote of confidence I am losing interest for the latest and greatest processor and stuff. If my 8800GT and E8400 can't handle starcraft 2 then i might have to consider, but I guess the reason why i'm losing interest in upgrading is that I haven't been playing any new games lately, I think they all suck, hence why i'm still playing warcraft 3 TFT

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

Posted by: Drwho? (he works for Intel) from the XtremeSystems forums:

I don t want a young kid spending all of his saving for his dream CPU to finish...

He was obviously referring to me.

no he's pointing to the idiots who arent pro's that ramp there voltage without knowing what there doing and then poping or losing there overclock and flooding XS pages with HELP.

Something which this forum has been seeing lately because people do not understand what 45nm means compared to 65nm. And they come on the forum posting 1.5-1.6 vcores thinking its cool because XS does it.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: AmberClad
First couple of weeks of November according to Fud.

So I've been meaning to ask you this -- what were you planning on doing after Core i7 eventuallly comes out? You'll be in the same boat as forum members such as "Dothan", "Conroe", and "x2 3600 rules sazakky"...

I should have just stuck with my E6600 and 975X and not upgraded to an E8400 and P35. I bought into the hype of the penryn refresh and yes while it's faster I didn't really notice a significant difference that warranted an upgrade. This cost me $$$ for no reason other than epeen gloating and i regret it now Hopefully i can resist the next latest and greatest thing for a while!!!!! Think I can last 3-4 years without upgrading?!

Ah, sweet sweet sweet buyers remorse. Only cure for that is an upgrade! (and more cow-bell)

 

[aigomorla]

incase it wasnt posted, however im sure it was.

NDA for most X58 boards expire middle of Nov.



Which should means we'll see high end i7 rigs by the closing of this year.

Well, you'll probably see mine after it expire, crossing my fingers.


Amber if your gonna ask me that question:
I will have 2.

The 965 i intend to replace sakura to eva-chan.

And i intend to get a cheap one to push to threshold and see how much pain it can take b4 it goes POP. :X

 

[Beavermatic]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

Originally posted by: Beavermatic


They are. Core i7 is coming out either this month or next. You should have waited.

Ah, Ah, Ah....

If i deem the i7 a worthy upgrade to my q9550 when it is released, you better beleive i'll be the first one in line for one. Its pocket change for the price of a processor nowadays, as long as they are $1000 or less. I want to see benchmarks first, though. I don't run of hypothetical scores, or virtual scores for that matter.

Though I keep hearing these words of a six core i7 due to be released within the first few months of 2009, and that they wont be making an apperance with the first releases on November 17.

Going from a Quad core to another Quad core when 6 cores are right around the corner would be a mistake easily made, especially if the initial quad core i7 release does not oust the qx9770.

You say I need to keep up on my game. May i remind those who commented that the article that claimed the 2009 release is only a month and a half old, and the November 17th release are skeptical leaks from supposed non-disclosure agreement violators at best, or at least it was, until I checked with a buddy who deals with intel reps on a daily basis for a hardware distrubtor company.

So I stand corrected, indeed, you were right, the highend quadcores of I7 series are indefinetely being released in November.

Though I do know they are being released on November 17th myself now, its where I stand as far as going to a slightly faste quad core, or just waiting around for the 6 core.

I know the high end quad cores are definitely releasing on the 17th, but no true dates on the six core yet ***sigh***. Unfortunately, intel hasn't been so kind to slip any info on that set.

But for you, I'm happy to say you'll have a machine thats probably going to rock the pants off anyone around you come November