Latest Core i7 release date info

[WaitingForNehalem]

Most websites seem to say October is the release month. When will Intel announce a date?

 

[GundamF91]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
When it comes out, I'll buy it. Since this computer will last me another 4 years, it needs to be as top of line and future proof as possible. Tons of people tell me to go Penryn but as I said before, I don't go with old tech no matter how cheap it is. I can't imagine myself spending my hard earned cash on something that will be replaced in 1-2 months. I was upset when I bought a PS1 in 1999 and the PS2 came out in 2000. I want the new socket, the new ram, the new chipset, and the new architecture. I've been waiting a long time and I'm ready for NEHALEM (THUNDER)!

Hey buddy, think about your logic from a price/performance point of view. Sure new tech is great, but you also pay more for new tech. So if you only upgrade once every 4 years, and it costs you $2000 to get the latest top of line tech, and lasting from 2009-2013.

On the other hand, if you are willing to go with something not quite top of line, but still perfectly capable, such as E8400 or even Q9450. Then you can get yourself a setup for $1000 or so. Suppose you run it for 2 years, it lasts 2009-2010. Then suppose you upgrade again in late 2010, spend another $1000 for a capable system not quite top of line, ie. a mid-high level Nehalem by that time, and you can enjoy it for another 2 or more years. So in 4 years time, you end up with 2 capable systems instead of one, or you can sell the 1st one and get some money to offset the cost of 2nd one. Also chances are you'll get a better Nehalem-iterative than the Nehalem you'll get this Nov.

Of course, it does mean you are stuck with a Penryn class system when Nehalem starts to take over the world in a storm, but ask yourself if you truly need the additional performance that Nehalem gives you, especially since you will only lag behind from 2009-2010.

I've said this many times over, the fact is that most of systems today are overpowered compared to what users do. Do you really need 4Ghz quad core processors and 8GB memory to surf Anandtech forums? If you do professional video editing or processing, then you do need the processor power, but otherwise, most of time your CPU sits idling. On the other hand, if you game, then you'll get better results by buying better GPU.

 

[Cookie Monster]

So when they say "triple channel" memory, how does this exactly work?

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: GundamF91

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
When it comes out, I'll buy it. Since this computer will last me another 4 years, it needs to be as top of line and future proof as possible. Tons of people tell me to go Penryn but as I said before, I don't go with old tech no matter how cheap it is. I can't imagine myself spending my hard earned cash on something that will be replaced in 1-2 months. I was upset when I bought a PS1 in 1999 and the PS2 came out in 2000. I want the new socket, the new ram, the new chipset, and the new architecture. I've been waiting a long time and I'm ready for NEHALEM (THUNDER)!

Hey buddy, think about your logic from a price/performance point of view. Sure new tech is great, but you also pay more for new tech. So if you only upgrade once every 4 years, and it costs you $2000 to get the latest top of line tech, and lasting from 2009-2013.

On the other hand, if you are willing to go with something not quite top of line, but still perfectly capable, such as E8400 or even Q9450. Then you can get yourself a setup for $1000 or so. Suppose you run it for 2 years, it lasts 2009-2010. Then suppose you upgrade again in late 2010, spend another $1000 for a capable system not quite top of line, ie. a mid-high level Nehalem by that time, and you can enjoy it for another 2 or more years. So in 4 years time, you end up with 2 capable systems instead of one, or you can sell the 1st one and get some money to offset the cost of 2nd one. Also chances are you'll get a better Nehalem-iterative than the Nehalem you'll get this Nov.

Of course, it does mean you are stuck with a Penryn class system when Nehalem starts to take over the world in a storm, but ask yourself if you truly need the additional performance that Nehalem gives you, especially since you will only lag behind from 2009-2010.

I've said this many times over, the fact is that most of systems today are overpowered compared to what users do. Do you really need 4Ghz quad core processors and 8GB memory to surf Anandtech forums? If you do professional video editing or processing, then you do need the processor power, but otherwise, most of time your CPU sits idling. On the other hand, if you game, then you'll get better results by buying better GPU.

+1

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: Dadofamunky

Originally posted by: GundamF91

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
When it comes out, I'll buy it. Since this computer will last me another 4 years, it needs to be as top of line and future proof as possible. Tons of people tell me to go Penryn but as I said before, I don't go with old tech no matter how cheap it is. I can't imagine myself spending my hard earned cash on something that will be replaced in 1-2 months. I was upset when I bought a PS1 in 1999 and the PS2 came out in 2000. I want the new socket, the new ram, the new chipset, and the new architecture. I've been waiting a long time and I'm ready for NEHALEM (THUNDER)!

Hey buddy, think about your logic from a price/performance point of view. Sure new tech is great, but you also pay more for new tech. So if you only upgrade once every 4 years, and it costs you $2000 to get the latest top of line tech, and lasting from 2009-2013.

On the other hand, if you are willing to go with something not quite top of line, but still perfectly capable, such as E8400 or even Q9450. Then you can get yourself a setup for $1000 or so. Suppose you run it for 2 years, it lasts 2009-2010. Then suppose you upgrade again in late 2010, spend another $1000 for a capable system not quite top of line, ie. a mid-high level Nehalem by that time, and you can enjoy it for another 2 or more years. So in 4 years time, you end up with 2 capable systems instead of one, or you can sell the 1st one and get some money to offset the cost of 2nd one. Also chances are you'll get a better Nehalem-iterative than the Nehalem you'll get this Nov.

Of course, it does mean you are stuck with a Penryn class system when Nehalem starts to take over the world in a storm, but ask yourself if you truly need the additional performance that Nehalem gives you, especially since you will only lag behind from 2009-2010.

I've said this many times over, the fact is that most of systems today are overpowered compared to what users do. Do you really need 4Ghz quad core processors and 8GB memory to surf Anandtech forums? If you do professional video editing or processing, then you do need the processor power, but otherwise, most of time your CPU sits idling. On the other hand, if you game, then you'll get better results by buying better GPU.

+1

Okay so I priced up the a Penryn and a Core i7 build and they come out to be around the same. I went with the 9550 because it was only $5 more. And I know you guys are saying you need to go with a P45 but I don't want future cards choking for bandwith. Now I have no idea how much the motherboard will be but that is an estimate. I went with DDR3 because the MSI supports either DD2 800 or DDR3 1600. 800 seems too slow for me. Besides, I like maxing out my motherboard with the best I can put in it.

9550 $325
MSI X48C Platinum LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $190
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) $180

Core i7 2.66GHz $300
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) $180
Motherboard $200

 

[GundamF91]

I have no doubt Core i7 will sweep away all the performance standards that Core2 have set, but that's really the fact of life in technology. This happened to the Pentiums, Athlons, and now the Core2's. Just talk to anyone who bought the early QX processors when Core2 came into being. And two years later, Intel's tick-tock will bring in Sandybridge, which will again sweep over Nehalem.

So there's really no real future proof, because the future is forever moving forward, and you get caught up in it. In reality, the only thing that matters is that the user being realistic about what they want the PC to do. Otherwise two years from now you'll be "waitingforsandybridge" and yet still using it to surf the internet and run theoretical benchmarks.

It's no doubt that faster processors are great, but we're really down to milliseconds now. We're now using this "snappyness" to measure our computing experience, because we could no longer concretely identify how slow a computer is. Other than synthetic benchmarks, we really don't feel how much better these computers are when doing mundane things such as surfing the web or using MS Office.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

I'm a gamer. I play a lot of games. The main reason I'm updating is to game. If all I did was use MS Office and search the web then there would be little reason for me to upgrade. Anyway, my choice is set on Core i7 and the whole purpose of this thread was to get news about it, not speculate how inferior it will be price/performance wise.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
I'm a gamer. I play a lot of games. The main reason I'm updating is to game.

Can't wait to see an i7 Vs. a 4.5G Wolfdale in games. No doubt the 4ghz EE i7's will be blowing away the Core2's, but it will be interesting to see how the non-extreme parts fare.

 

[GundamF91]

If you're a true gamer, you should be upgrading every 2 years or so, and focus on multi-GPU. I don't know what games you play now, but you're a few generations late with that x850xt. You wont' be happy with a 4 year upgrade cycle.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
If you're a true gamer, you should be upgrading every 2 years or so, and focus on multi-GPU. I don't know what games you play now, but you're a few generations late with that x850xt. You wont' be happy with a 4 year upgrade cycle.

Being 16 it's hard to afford a new rig every 2 years. I had to work 40+ hours per week this summer just to get enough cash for my new rig.

 

[GundamF91]

Ah, you're 16....I have to say that when I was 16, I'd be super happy if I had a 486dx...I guess that dates myself.

Anyhow, considering $ is hard to get at your age, I think you'll be better served with a nice E8400 right now which you can get for $150. And then a P35 for under $120, then 4GB of DDR2 for about $70 after rebate, and then finally get a ATI 4850 for $150 after rebate. You can reuse your WD HDD, or get a new one for under $100. You can definitely reuse your 600W PS, or buy another for $50 or so. Finally you can get a nice Antec 900 gamer case for another $70 or so.

All together, that's about less than $700-800 for all new components, not including a monitor which you can pick up a 22" for about $200 or so. This way you'll have a perfectly capable gaming rig for all the current games. This should be good for at lease couple of years, especially if you pick up another 4850 down the road for Crossfire, or upgrade to something faster down the road. Look at my spec, and I play all the current games at very smooth framerate @ 1680x1050 on my 22".

I'm just suggesting how you can get more bang for buck, especially since you dont' have lots of dough to spend on this. Of course, it's no doubt that Core i7 will be even faster, but the other components, especially GPU, are really what'll determine your gaming experience at the high end.

 

[Tempered81]

you could even pick up crossfire 4850's and be sitting pretty fat with a decent mobo, 4ghz OC, and an OC on the gpus DDR5's

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
Ah, you're 16....I have to say that when I was 16, I'd be super happy if I had a 486dx...I guess that dates myself.

Anyhow, considering $ is hard to get at your age, I think you'll be better served with a nice E8400 right now which you can get for $150. And then a P35 for under $120, then 4GB of DDR2 for about $70 after rebate, and then finally get a ATI 4850 for $150 after rebate. You can reuse your WD HDD, or get a new one for under $100. You can definitely reuse your 600W PS, or buy another for $50 or so. Finally you can get a nice Antec 900 gamer case for another $70 or so.

All together, that's about less than $700-800 for all new components, not including a monitor which you can pick up a 22" for about $200 or so. This way you'll have a perfectly capable gaming rig for all the current games. This should be good for at lease couple of years, especially if you pick up another 4850 down the road for Crossfire, or upgrade to something faster down the road. Look at my spec, and I play all the current games at very smooth framerate @ 1680x1050 on my 22".

I'm just suggesting how you can get more bang for buck, especially since you dont' have lots of dough to spend on this. Of course, it's no doubt that Core i7 will be even faster, but the other components, especially GPU, are really what'll determine your gaming experience at the high end.

Well, I already bought a Raidmax Smilodon Extreme $68 AR shipped, a Samsung 245BW 24 inch $325 AR with tax, and a Logitech MX518 $21 AR.

P.S. I could have gotten a Q6600/mobo for $150 if I really wanted.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
Ah, you're 16....I have to say that when I was 16, I'd be super happy if I had a 486dx...I guess that dates myself.

Hell, when I was sixteen paper tape upgrades were a big deal. Hah! Got you beat.

 

[neosapien]

november.

instead of blowing all your hard-earned cash on one system with the highest-performance, most overpriced enthusiast components, get a system with the best bang for the buck components, and then upgrade to new parts whenever another part comes along that's good performance for a good price. then, ebay the part that it replaced. your gaming machine will last you far, far longer this way.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear see my post on the 2nd page of this thread.

If your hard-earned dough truly is burning a hole in your pocket and you can't wait till november and every morning you wake up hoping that the release date has been changed, then get the core 2 quad 9650. same performance as the nehalem bloomfield 2.66ghz at stock, faster when they're both overclocked.

 

[Byte]

Nehalim looks really awesome, i'm wondering if it will help the adobe suite much. I'm really itching for a Q9xxx, i'm thinking it should be close enough to a nehalim for everything i do, mostly adobe suite but i'm running a lot of VMware on my main recently. It's being predicted to not help in games much, and i've found myself to really not be playing games anymore. It's quite sad. However i'm really looking forward to starcraft ii and diablo iii. Pretty much everything thats come out in the last 2 years i play it a day maybe two and thats it. My best friend is chugging along with a dell p4 2.0ghz, i'm not sure how he does it, but he's willing to wait for nehalim next year.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: neosapien
november.

instead of blowing all your hard-earned cash on one system with the highest-performance, most overpriced enthusiast components, get a system with the best bang for the buck components, and then upgrade to new parts whenever another part comes along that's good performance for a good price. then, ebay the part that it replaced. your gaming machine will last you far, far longer this way.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear see my post on the 2nd page of this thread.

If your hard-earned dough truly is burning a hole in your pocket and you can't wait till november and every morning you wake up hoping that the release date has been changed, then get the core 2 quad 9650. same performance as the nehalem bloomfield 2.66ghz at stock, faster when they're both overclocked.

With a ~$700 cost just for the mb/2.66ghz cpu/memory, you're talking about a bare minimum ~$1100 system.

Luckily I have $1100. Anyway I went to Fry's today and they had a Q8200/mobo combo for $200. The guy showed me it had 12mb L2 cahce but I remembered it was a lot lower. So he checked the system and it said 4mb L2. Finally I told him to check Newegg and sure enough it was 4mb. Basically I would have bought it if it did have 12mb of cache. So I'm not totally against a high end quad Penryn, but I still want to see what Nehalem brings to the table and how much it will really cost. But yeah, I will never buy a dual core EVER.

 

[TidusZ]

Originally posted by: GundamF91

Anyhow, considering $ is hard to get at your age, I think you'll be better served with a nice E8400 right now which you can get for $150. And then a P35 for under $120, then 4GB of DDR2 for about $70 after rebate, and then finally get a ATI 4850 for $150 after rebate. You can reuse your WD HDD, or get a new one for under $100. You can definitely reuse your 600W PS, or buy another for $50 or so. Finally you can get a nice Antec 900 gamer case for another $70 or so.

All together, that's about less than $700-800 for all new components, not including a monitor which you can pick up a 22" for about $200 or so.

I mostly agree, except I'd go for the new e5200, save 60+ dollars and it will overclock nearly as high. For gaming the 2mb of cache wont kill ya. Could use the extra dough to save toward a 4870 as well. 600W is more than enough as long as its working properly keep it, and try to sell the old parts locally, if your in a city you can use kijiji and get pretty decent money for your old ram and such.

Edit: I see your not interested in dual core. If you have your mind set on quad I'm not gonna talk you out of it, but I don't really see it being the best choice at this point, your call.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

According to Fudzilla Core i7 will come out early November.

Link 1

Link 2

 

[AuDioFreaK39]

In a recent sighting of more Gigabyte X58-DS4 pictures, Hardspell posted a CPU-Z screenshot of the board running the 2.93GHz "Bloomfield" chip, which the program identifies as "Intel Core i7 940." Could this in fact be true? I'm still confused with the heirarchy and "identifiers" of the upcoming Nehalem lineup..

http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=4008

http://img.inpai.com.cn/articl...-a609-ede9f353f7f3.jpg

On a second note, Wiki says otherwise - that the 2.93GHz "Bloomfield" will be dubbed "Core i7 900"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_i7


original Wiki source (translated):

Hardware-Infos.com - Intel Core i7 Processors from mid-October (August 11, 2008)

 

[walk2k]

Well I broke down and ordered the following last week:

E8400 ($170)
P5Q Pro ($110) - $20 off coupon
2GB OCZ DDR2 1066 ($41 ... lol)
Total = $321

Should hold me over until i7 is more affordable.
When I saw the prices of the 2.93Ghz unit would be $500++ and motherboards $250-300 I knew I wouldn't be jumping on that ship right away.

In a year/year+half with 3Ghz+ parts are $189 and mobos are in the reasonable $100-150 range (DDR3 will drop too) I'll bite.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: walk2k
Should hold me over until i7 is more affordable.
When I saw the prices of the 2.93Ghz unit would be $500++ and motherboards $250-300 I knew I wouldn't be jumping on that ship right away.

In a year/year+half with 3Ghz+ parts are $189 and mobos are in the reasonable $100-150 range (DDR3 will drop too) I'll bite.

Prices, and more relevantly availability, for the lower priced SKU's aren't likely to do what we want them to do until Deneb is out and/or Westmere comes.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: walk2k
Well I broke down and ordered the following last week:

E8400 ($170)
P5Q Pro ($110) - $20 off coupon
2GB OCZ DDR2 1066 ($41 ... lol)
Total = $321

Should hold me over until i7 is more affordable.
When I saw the prices of the 2.93Ghz unit would be $500++ and motherboards $250-300 I knew I wouldn't be jumping on that ship right away.

In a year/year+half with 3Ghz+ parts are $189 and mobos are in the reasonable $100-150 range (DDR3 will drop too) I'll bite.

I'm dissappointed in you. :frown: :thumbsdown:

 

[v8envy]

When you're our age you'll have built the no-holds barred PCs only to have your e-peen lopped off a month later. Never mind seeing boxes at Best Buy in six months equaling the performance of your dream machine, and surpassing it a year later.

At this point IMO the best kind of computer enthusiasm is optimizing bang for buck. Get the cheap hardware and tweak it to perform like the top shelf stuff. Anyone can fork over for a Ferrari, but it takes an enthusiast to get a Ford to go faster.

I'm in the same boat. My 3.2 ghz E2180 and 3 ghz X3210 should last me until Nehalem is both mainstream and available. Then it's upgrade time!

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

YES! I found information on the release date, prices, and which processors are going to replace the current ones. CHECK THIS OUT!

LINK!