Launch date for GTX 480/470 March 26

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Tempered81

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Nvidia will price it where they feel they can make the most profit.

True, and i think that has something to do with quantity on hand. When they had the nice refined G92 on a mature process, they produced boatloads of them and sold them at a great price ~$200.

This thing is taking so much money to develop & manufacture, and from the sound of things, each die coming off the wafer is in short supply, I can't see them offering a low price with such low quantity. Seems the other way around. If demand exists for 10,000 pcs at launch, then it may very well be $500+.
 

Creig

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And the minute Fermi finally hits store shelves, expect to see Nvidia PR working overtime telling us how framerates aren't really that important compared to 'must have' features such as PhysX, CUDA, 3D Vision, etc.

No doubt about it, Nvidia PR is going to be HEAVILY involved in this launch, much moreso than we've seen in the past given the issues Fermi has experienced.
 
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Genx87

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And the minute Fermi finally hits store shelves, expect to see Nvidia PR working overtime telling us how framerates aren't really that important compared to 'must have' features such as PhysX, CUDA, 3D Vision, etc.

No doubt about it, Nvidia PR is going to be HEAVILY involved in this launch, much moreso than we've seen in the past given the issues Fermi has experienced.

Which launch hasnt Nvidia PR been heavily involved? Isnt that the point of a PR dept?
 

Attic

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Yea, but we can still call shenanigans on nVidia's PR. PR is a part of it, but nVidia's PR department is a so noteably full of lousy gents full up and high on spreading misinformation and half truths that it can't be so easily dismissed.

Look at nVidia's focus group program, these guys are the absolute worst at spreading misinformation and half truths and their intention to mislead consumers is a clear goal that seems to have no bounds.
 

tviceman

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Nothing about that looks accurate. The bus width of both cards does not match the memory configurations and every tech site covering fermi has confirmed the gtx 470 will be 448 shaders. Unless everyone is somehow completely off on what Fermi's exact specs are for each SKU, then it's likely sabre is wrong with just about everything.

What is going on is Sabre is putting up preorders now to get early sales and will likely refund the difference for what the price of the cards actually launch at.
 

dguy6789

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Nothing about that looks accurate. The bus width of both cards does not match the memory configurations and every tech site covering fermi has confirmed the gtx 470 will be 448 shaders. Unless everyone is somehow completely off on what Fermi's exact specs are for each SKU, then it's likely sabre is wrong with just about everything.

What is going on is Sabre is putting up preorders now to get early sales and will likely refund the difference for what the price of the cards actually launch at.

That makes a lot of sense.
 

Genx87

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Yea, but we can still call shenanigans on nVidia's PR. PR is a part of it, but nVidia's PR department is a so noteably full of lousy gents full up and high on spreading misinformation and half truths that it can't be so easily dismissed.

Look at nVidia's focus group program, these guys are the absolute worst at spreading misinformation and half truths and their intention to mislead consumers is a clear goal that seems to have no bounds.

Nvidia's focus group is nothing compared to the trolls on most msgboards.
 

KingstonU

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Nvidia's focus group is nothing compared to the trolls on most msgboards.

Many trolls have been found to actually be paid Nvidia focus members with the sole intention of hyping products and spreading misinformation and bashing the competition. This sort of tactics are so sad as they are turning a good thing ( these kinds of forums forums) that most of us use for information and sabotaging them to prevent us from making an informed and educated decision. (Typed from my phone, sorry for typos)
 

WelshBloke

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Many trolls have been found to actually be paid Nvidia focus members with the sole intention of hyping products and spreading misinformation and bashing the competition. This sort of tactics are so sad as they are turning a good thing ( these kinds of forums forums) that most of us use for information and sabotaging them to prevent us from making an informed and educated decision. (Typed from my phone, sorry for typos)

Well if for many you mean one then OK
 

nitromullet

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Nothing about that looks accurate. The bus width of both cards does not match the memory configurations and every tech site covering fermi has confirmed the gtx 470 will be 448 shaders. Unless everyone is somehow completely off on what Fermi's exact specs are for each SKU, then it's likely sabre is wrong with just about everything.

What is going on is Sabre is putting up preorders now to get early sales and will likely refund the difference for what the price of the cards actually launch at.

Agreed. IIRC, the RAM was going to be something weird like the 8800GTX/GTS, and the GTX 480 was going to have 1.5ish GB of DDR5 RAM.

That being said, if the availability is low at launch they will still sell for $499 and $679. I have no doubts about that. I bought an X1800XT back in 2005 for $650. Granted, a 7800 GTX 512 was going for ~$800 at the time (if you could find one). That's how availability affects pricing though...
 

Genx87

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Many trolls have been found to actually be paid Nvidia focus members with the sole intention of hyping products and spreading misinformation and bashing the competition. This sort of tactics are so sad as they are turning a good thing ( these kinds of forums forums) that most of us use for information and sabotaging them to prevent us from making an informed and educated decision. (Typed from my phone, sorry for typos)

Not on this msgboard.
 

tviceman

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That makes a lot of sense.

Agreed. IIRC, the RAM was going to be something weird like the 8800GTX/GTS, and the GTX 480 was going to have 1.5ish GB of DDR5 RAM.

That being said, if the availability is low at launch they will still sell for $499 and $679. I have no doubts about that. I bought an X1800XT back in 2005 for $650. Granted, a 7800 GTX 512 was going for ~$800 at the time (if you could find one). That's how availability affects pricing though...

That website, sabre, is suspect in the first place. It's product organization is terrible and extremely limited. Many of their store links on the front page do not even work. Clicking on browse does nothing. Clicking notebooks brings you to an empty category.
 

waffleironhead

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Rollo was one poster. Kingston said "many". Which implies more than one.

Gotcha. I read it as many across the web, not many on one particular board. So you denying we had any viral marketers. I guess they could have been even more effective if they had multiple posters playing off each other.
 

Wag

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True, and i think that has something to do with quantity on hand. When they had the nice refined G92 on a mature process, they produced boatloads of them and sold them at a great price ~$200.

This thing is taking so much money to develop & manufacture, and from the sound of things, each die coming off the wafer is in short supply, I can't see them offering a low price with such low quantity. Seems the other way around. If demand exists for 10,000 pcs at launch, then it may very well be $500+.
It still has to compete with the competition too (meaning ATI), so if it's close
enough in performance to the competitor's product they won't be able to price it much higher (maybe $50) or no one will want to buy it.
 

shaynoa

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well i am buying a new mobo Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 MB with Intel CORE i7 930/2.8GHz/4.8GT QPT/8MB CACHE/LGA1366 with Corsair CMG6GX3M3A2000C8 6GB (3x 2GB) (2000MHz) DDR3 For X58 MB/i7 Core and i am hoping for 2 of the new fermi gtx480, i hope these new nvidia cards fly , but i will keep using my 2 gtx9800+ until i get the new ones.
now looking forward to the end of march to see what goes down with these videocards
 

tviceman

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well i am buying a new mobo Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 MB with Intel CORE i7 930/2.8GHz/4.8GT QPT/8MB CACHE/LGA1366 with Corsair CMG6GX3M3A2000C8 6GB (3x 2GB) (2000MHz) DDR3 For X58 MB/i7 Core and i am hoping for 2 of the new fermi gtx480, i hope these new nvidia cards fly , but i will keep using my 2 gtx9800+ until i get the new ones.
now looking forward to the end of march to see what goes down with these videocards

I hope you have an amazing PSU and some serious muluah to spend!
 

Mr. Pedantic

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lolwut?

It still has to compete with the competition too (meaning ATI), so if it's close
enough in performance to the competitor's product they won't be able to price it much higher (maybe $50) or no one will want to buy it.
Folders and fanboys will still buy it.
 

fliguy84

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I hope that Nvidia will price it right this time, unlike last time with GTX260 dropping MSRP after just a few weeks of launching.
 
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