Originally posted by: xtknight
It's not really shocking that it ghosts, but I am surprised the red streaking is so prevalent. Most of the Samsung monitors (with the exception of the 60BF series) have gotten very good ratings with regards to overdrive (response time acceleration). It could be that your store has a bad batch of them. I have never seen this effect mentioned in any review of the 971P. Or, maybe you just gave it the right combination of media for the red ringing to stick out like a sore thumb and the rest of the web has not given the LCD a proper review (I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter).
Originally posted by: xtknight
I agree with this. It is sad there are no other monitors in the same realm as the 971P's image quality and price. It makes it frustrating to adjust, especially on different operating systems that MagicTune does not support. I have had trouble getting MagicTune to work with my graphics card. What troubles did you have with it?
Originally posted by: xtknight
Umm, well I hope so. I'm sorry to say it, but personally I wasn't impressed with my VP930b. It was another LCD that had problems with overdrive (I got purple around moving objects in Battlefield 2). The backlight was also among the worst. It happened to get an A rating for that category on Tom's Hardware which was shocking.
Originally posted by: xtknight
I don't know what's going on here but finding properly done reviews of LCDs is getting increasingly hard. Many of the aspects are just not tested or are quickly glossed over. I'm glad you are not settling for these problems but meanwhile, finding a better LCD is the hard part.
Originally posted by: xtknight
It is possible that the VP930b now uses a newer panel. AU Optronics has had a 1300:1 out for ages. As much as it's nice to update the products with the same model number, as a previous owner you really feel screwed over.
Please let me know how the VP930b suits you. I hope that the newer panel takes care of these effects.
Originally posted by: CP5670
Interesting, the 971P has the glossy coating? That would be one of the very few non-NEC models with it.
Originally posted by: Chiapensis
Hi rx,
As I am about to buy the LP2065, I wonder if you've installed your new video card and how you would compare the analog/digital performance.
By the way since I'll need to change my video card for one with a digital output I wonder which card you chose. I won't be doing any gaming but will need the digital out.
Thanks
Originally posted by: KnickNut3
Hey. I've currently got a 20.1" 2001FP and a 19" CRT and am looking to replace the CRT. I was going to get another normal 4:3 screen but might consider the widescreen for movies in my dorm room. Right now I do a little gaming, mostly poker/internet and watching TV.
If I got a 22" widescreen, would it be approx the same height as my current 20.1"? I know the resolution won't be exactly the same (1200 lines vs. 1050), but I'd prefer the heights to match exactly and know you sacrifice height since monitors are measured diagonally.
Anyone have this kind of setup? Thanks.
Originally posted by: CheesePoofs
I ordered the LGL204WT and got it in today. It didn't come with a DVI cable, so I'm using VGA right now until I can grab a DVI cable from a friend.
The image seems really nice to me, no dead pixels and only a little bleeding at the top and bottom. But I have a few questions:
First, in the flatron F engine thing, when I set it to "user," it allows you to adjust brightness, ACE, and RCM. I don't know what the the latter two are, though I'm guessing they're just monitor special features that make it look prettier but will really degrade image quality.
Any ideas? But also, apparently I can only adjust contrast while in normal mode; if I adjust it, it automatically switches back to normal. And I need to adjust it, the user mode has contrast way too high. Do you think this mode has any annoying special features that really aren't so special?
I seem to see a little bit of banding, but I'm not sure. Basically, I can see vertical lines towards the darker side of the scale across all the colors, but can't really make out colors clumped together. That and I think it could be due to me running off of a vga cable right now.
But anyways, the display seems quite nice, though I haven't actually done anything with it besides basic internet surfing so far. But I'm happy Thanks so much for recommending it to me, xtknight!
Originally posted by: xtknight
LCD Buyer's Guide
As of Thursday, Dec 28, 2006
LCDs with bad Overdrive side effects
(avoid these whenever possible)
Samsung SyncMaster 930BF (X-Bit Labs)
Originally posted by: riversend3
Just wanted to ask a question. I used this forum a couple of months ago to aid in my LCD buying decision, and purchased a Samsung 215TW. Extremely happy with the monitor, no quality issues although it took several tries to get the DVI cable input to accept the signal from the video card. So thanks xtknight and all the folks that discussed the purchase with me......
Anyway, I was going to pick one up for a family member but discovered that it is out of stock almost everywhere. Best Buy no longer lists it in inventory, having given way to hat looks to be a lower quality 225BW. Compusa - none. Newegg - out of stock but still listed as a product. Is this just a post-Christmas stock issue, or has Samsung discontinued the model?
I am not all that concerned about getting this exact monitor, just wondering why it is disappearing? Thanks, and if it is disappearing this is just giving folks a heads up.
Originally posted by: mset
Hi xt
Thanks as always for the work you do here.
I bought a Dell E228 WFP 22" LCD (TN panel) through a Boxing Day sale, and sent it back today. It was my first LCD, but I was unimpressed by the color reproduction, and by the inconsistency of the images. I tried hard to tweak it, using Riva Tuner (after checking out your site www.lcdresource.com) but I couldn't get all the problems to go away at once. Strangest was the look of my browser window at the top, where, in the top left corner, it looked like someone had 'spilled a liquid' which washed off the corner of the page.
I decided to do a bunch of searching at X-Bit, Tom's, prad, then get a bunch of candidates for a decent unit, then come here and scroll backwards through the pages of this thread to see what current buyers are saying.
My priorities are
1. Size (20"+ )
2. Price
3. Color reproduction/Image Clarity
I do not need
1. Gaming response
2. Movie viewing
3. Photo Editing or viewing
So... I came up with this list
Samsung 213T
Samsung 215TW
Samsung 205BW
HP LP2065
My question is this - the 215TW has had so many positive reviews and is an editors choice on many sites, but I noticed that a few days ago, you mentioned to someone here that you wouldn't be able to deal with the 'input lag'. Now, I did a wikipedia search for input lag and I understand it in theory, but I am a little confused about input lag vs. response time. You said that you would use the 215TW for watching movies but that's about it. But wouldn't those moving images lag? I guess not...
Anyhow, any comment by anyone here re: the best 20"+ LCD monitor for $325-$450 (and I do not mind buying a used unit, esp. from a high heatware guy in my town) for a non gamer who wants only a sharp image and reliability, would be appreciated.
[Asus A8N-E with onboard video, DVI and VGA outputs, would rather not be required to get a PCI-e video card]
Thanks
Originally posted by: Aviator10
Have a question that has been bugging me for a while. I have been reading all the posts in this thread avidly and am in the same position as everybody else. Every time I come close to a model, there is another new issue. Phewwww!
So here is what is bugging me: xknight what is the deal with the "medical grade" LCD monitors that we have in the Radiology PACS systems. I have heard that they are rather "expensive". They are Fabulous.
What panels are these and what are their "home grade" counterparts? Sorry if this is basic.
Originally posted by: nubreed000
Originally posted by: xtknight
LCD Buyer's Guide
As of Thursday, Dec 28, 2006
LCDs with bad Overdrive side effects
(avoid these whenever possible)
Samsung SyncMaster 930BF (X-Bit Labs)
Does anyone know if this monitor, and the SyncMaster 931BF are the same models? I'm thinking about getting the 931BF as it seems like a great deal (2000:1 ratio and 2ms response), but I wanna know if they suffer from the same problems.
Originally posted by: xtknight
HP LP2065 or 213T as mentioned above, but if you want a lower price screen, then I would say there's nothing lower in price that will provide you with image quality that could be considered professional.
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: nubreed000
Originally posted by: xtknight
LCD Buyer's Guide
As of Thursday, Dec 28, 2006
LCDs with bad Overdrive side effects
(avoid these whenever possible)
Samsung SyncMaster 930BF (X-Bit Labs)
Does anyone know if this monitor, and the SyncMaster 931BF are the same models? I'm thinking about getting the 931BF as it seems like a great deal (2000:1 ratio and 2ms response), but I wanna know if they suffer from the same problems.
I'm not sure about that. My guess would be that it's solved. The 2000:1 is way overblown and really not that amazing (just dynamic contrast) so don't feel as if you passed up some great offer.
Originally posted by: rxblitzrx
Dell 2405FPW or HP LP2065. Which one has better picture quality???
Originally posted by: Engel
Originally posted by: rxblitzrx
Dell 2405FPW or HP LP2065. Which one has better picture quality???
Well, this really comes down to PVA vs S-IPS, since it is my understanding that the 2405FPW is using Samsung's PVA panel, and the LP2065 uses a Phillips S-IPS panel.
Given the above, I would say go with HP LP2065. Having used both PVA and IPS panels (those Apple Cinema Displays are gorgeous), I can tell you that, without a doubt, the IPS panel is superior. And even beyond this, I can also tell you that Samsung's PVA panels need work. The technology may produce decent still images, but displaying movement is critically flawed. Moreover, the IPS panel is a true 8-bit, while Samsung's PVA panels seem to be using 6-bit and use FRC/dithering. The PVA panels tend to have deeper blacks, but is that really worth it? I'd say no.
Anyway, good luck!
Originally posted by: nubreed000
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: nubreed000
Originally posted by: xtknight
LCD Buyer's Guide
As of Thursday, Dec 28, 2006
LCDs with bad Overdrive side effects
(avoid these whenever possible)
Samsung SyncMaster 930BF (X-Bit Labs)
Does anyone know if this monitor, and the SyncMaster 931BF are the same models? I'm thinking about getting the 931BF as it seems like a great deal (2000:1 ratio and 2ms response), but I wanna know if they suffer from the same problems.
I'm not sure about that. My guess would be that it's solved. The 2000:1 is way overblown and really not that amazing (just dynamic contrast) so don't feel as if you passed up some great offer.
Ah, I see. I guess I'll just go with a 20" panel instead then, since they cost around the same amount. I'm thinking of either the Samsung 205BW, Acer's AL2016W and Dell's 20" screens.
Which one would you pick out of those 3? I noticed that spec-wise (from what I know), the Dell features the best specs, but how trustworthy are Dell's?