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xtknight

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Originally posted by: databird
Originally posted by: xtknight
22" LCDs tend to have more backlight bleeding (could be something to do with the size).
All 22", regardless of brand? Wow. Though I can't see how size has anything to do with it.

Most are made by Chi Mei. All of those have lots of backlight bleeding. Then there's the LG 22" which is known to have quite a bit. The Samsung 22" (only one model uses it right now to my knowledge, 226BW) is the only one that seems to have less.

Originally posted by: tuan209
xtknight,

Would you recommend the benq 24in lcd for photo editing? Would it be comparable to the NEC?

Yes, it would be comparable, certainly after calibration. Before calibration it isn't too bad either. The BenQ provides the most accurate colors in its class (the 24" LCDs).
 

werdna130

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: werdna130
Hey xtknight,

What do you think of this display, http://www.benq.com/products/LCD/?product=997

I would be using it for 360, PC/PC Gaming, DVD Movies, and possibly HD Cable TV

-Thanks

I would have to wait for reviews of it. Chances are, it's a great LCD. You won't see me recommending it until I'm sure. What I do know is that it contains an 8-bit P-MVA panel.

What does that mean exactly? Is that good or bad?
 

b1x

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Originally posted by: xtknight

An A-TW-IPS is just a modified S-IPS. It fits under the IPS class of LCD panels. TW (True White) uses a new color filter to reproduce a more natural white. They are suited for photo editing better than LCDs with conventional color filters (even other IPS ones).

I don't know about H-IPS. Mitsubishi IPS variant, I think. I suppose I could add it to the list of variants, yeah.

Thx. Any info you can dig up would be helpful.

NEC Euro press release (http://www.nec-display-solutions.com/co...__Details,spec=x__hq__en,docId=220234) reports the H-IPS A-TW Pol as "Horizontal IPS with Advanced True Wide Polarizer". I can find very little else on it but I'm very curious to see how it compares to the other IPS panel types.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: werdna130
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: werdna130
Hey xtknight,

What do you think of this display, http://www.benq.com/products/LCD/?product=997

I would be using it for 360, PC/PC Gaming, DVD Movies, and possibly HD Cable TV

-Thanks

I would have to wait for reviews of it. Chances are, it's a great LCD. You won't see me recommending it until I'm sure. What I do know is that it contains an 8-bit P-MVA panel.

What does that mean exactly? Is that good or bad?

Same with any LCD new to the market and lacking in reviews. It means I don't know 100% and I won't be putting it on the list until I know 100%. 90% chance it's a great LCD and other people are welcome to try it and report their experiences. Seems like a pretty good chance to me. I don't have the funds to do it myself. Soon as lots of people over at HardForum say it's good and there's at least one favorable pro review I'll be 100%.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: b1x
Originally posted by: xtknight

An A-TW-IPS is just a modified S-IPS. It fits under the IPS class of LCD panels. TW (True White) uses a new color filter to reproduce a more natural white. They are suited for photo editing better than LCDs with conventional color filters (even other IPS ones).

I don't know about H-IPS. Mitsubishi IPS variant, I think. I suppose I could add it to the list of variants, yeah.

Thx. Any info you can dig up would be helpful.

NEC Euro press release (http://www.nec-display-solutions.com/co...__Details,spec=x__hq__en,docId=220234) reports the H-IPS A-TW Pol as "Horizontal IPS with Advanced True Wide Polarizer". I can find very little else on it but I'm very curious to see how it compares to the other IPS panel types.

Probably just S-IPS with high QC and a new color filter with marketing sprinkled in. (Sort of like A-TW-IPS, SA-SFT, etc.) If I find any more info on it I'll be posting it in this thread.
 

CP5670

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You may want to update the average price on the 90GX2. It's widely available for just over $200 now ($210 on Newegg, $170 AR on Directron). I guess these huge price cuts have to do with the Pro version's impending release, but the original one is still a great monitor.
 

b1x

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Originally posted by: xtknight

Probably just S-IPS with high QC and a new color filter with marketing sprinkled in. (Sort of like A-TW-IPS, SA-SFT, etc.) If I find any more info on it I'll be posting it in this thread.

Thx.

There was one other thing. Is the A-TW-IPS panel and the H-IPS A-TW Pol one and the same? I did see a report allocating the A-TW-IPS to the NEC LCD2690WUXi once, which was wrong. So is the report of an A-TW-IPS panel a mistake or is there an actual monitor with that panel type in it, because I can't find any on TFTCentral?

Edit: Oops, there it is - the LaCie 320 has an A-TW-IPS. Confusing stuff.
 

StonieJ

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I started this question in a new thread, but I think perhaps this would be a good place to continue it.

I am interested in buying a large, widescreen LCD to use as an external monitor for a widescreen tablet PC, so I need the ability to rotate the monitor freely and quickly between landscape and portrait orientation to match whatever I'm doing on the tablet. I was originally interested in the 22" Samsung 226BW, but I was told in my original thread that TN panels were unsuitable for portrait mode due to poor image quality in that orientation. I don't plan on doing much using the monitor/tablet besides school work and occasional gaming/movies/Photoshop (just as hobbies...not a professional here by any means). I looked at some of the top-ranked monitors in the original post, and I'm wondering what your thoughts on the following are:

20.1"w: Acer AL2051W, 1680x1050 (16:10)
It's cheap, but a bit smaller than I would like (21" at the least). Does P-MVA have good portrait mode quality?

20.1"w: NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2, 1680x1050 (16:10)
Again, a bit small, but has an AS-IPS panel.

21.0"w: Samsung SyncMaster 215TW, 1680x1050 (16:10)
More the size I'm looking for, but I'm curious about the comment "However, this model reportedly has lots of input lag (like the 2407WFP). If you know you'd be sensitive to this, your best choice would be to avoid it." I'm guessing that just means that you'll notice a significant lag time between your actions and what appears on the screen. Any comments or first hand experience?

22"w: LG Flatron L226WT, 1680x1050 (16:10)
This is a TN panel, but listed as the "best 22" LCD." Even though this is a TN, will this "best" version have good portrait mode quality?

And lastly, what are your thoughts on that Samsung 226BW I was originally interested in?


At the moment, I'd say I'm definitely leaning most heavily towards the SyncMaster 215TW (big size, non-TN), but I will go to Best Buy and check them out firsthand before making any commitment.

Thanks for the help!
 

Fallen Kell

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What happened to the sticky?

Anyway, you can't rotate the 20WMGX2 90 degrees. That said, it is the best panel out of the crop you posted. But you don't need to rotate the screen for use with your tablet I don't think. The video card will detect it as a second screen, which means it will have its own complete set of settings, horizontal/landscape, resolution, color depth, etc., etc., etc... which is unaffected by what the tablet has on its screen.

I think that it really depends on what you want out of the monitor as to which one you get. For color correctness, and multi-media, you will not beat the NEC. For office work, the Samsung may be a slightly better choice, but that depends on your room lighting. Personally I prefer correct color representation over extreme contrast and brightness. The NEC no dead pixel garranty is hard to beat...
 

werdna130

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: werdna130
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: werdna130
Hey xtknight,

What do you think of this display, http://www.benq.com/products/LCD/?product=997

I would be using it for 360, PC/PC Gaming, DVD Movies, and possibly HD Cable TV

-Thanks

I would have to wait for reviews of it. Chances are, it's a great LCD. You won't see me recommending it until I'm sure. What I do know is that it contains an 8-bit P-MVA panel.

What does that mean exactly? Is that good or bad?

Same with any LCD new to the market and lacking in reviews. It means I don't know 100% and I won't be putting it on the list until I know 100%. 90% chance it's a great LCD and other people are welcome to try it and report their experiences. Seems like a pretty good chance to me. I don't have the funds to do it myself. Soon as lots of people over at HardForum say it's good and there's at least one favorable pro review I'll be 100%.

Oh, sorry, I meant what is the 8-bit P-MVA panel, i read the first post that has some info on that type of screen, but im not sure exactly about what it all means
 

amd7674

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xtknight and others,

I just bought 20WMGX2 and I'm very happy with it. I still have like a week to decide if I want to keep it or not. What troubles me is Tom's hardware review, it says that this montor is not that good for photo editing. IMHO after playing with the settings I like picture much better (opticlear?) than my previous HP LP2065 (S-IPS) and Dell 2007FPW (S-IPS). I saw suggestion I should turn off ADVM and I should adjust my contrast manualy.

Is this monitor as good as HP LP2065 or better for photo editing (I know there is 4:3 vs. 16:10 and glossy vs. matte)?

Since I don't have a hw calibration tool, can someone share his/her settings? I work in the dark room, so I'm trying to avoid anything with over 25 brightness.

I just want to make sure the extra money I'm paying for NEC is worth it.

TIA
 

amd7674

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Thanks,

It seems I have to use follwoing settings:
Brithness around 20 and contrast around 30 with ADVM off. I could probably use higher contrast, but I like lower settings so my eyes won't get any eye strain.
 

mike3uz

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My 20WMGX2 has lines when watching winamp or WMP video in the screen. It has a couple dark blotches on the screen which is noticeable in on lighter background. It didn't do that the last time it was repaired. I should just call NEC again and get it replaced. They keep replacing the panel and sometimes it got worse.
 

xtknight

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Dad just got an LG L226WT and I had a few hours to spend with it.

Upon opening it up ($310 from Circuit City), I didn't expect a DVI cable at that kind of price, and sure enough it was missing. That's alright though as I used a DVI cable from another monitor to test it.

First I hooked it up in dual-DVI mode from my 7800GT. Immediately I noticed that the LG had amazing contrast, besting that of even my 20WMGX2. Another thing I immediately noticed was the typical viewing angle problems with TNs: you move your head and the whole picture changes. I can tell you right now that's the most annoying part of this whole LCD.

Loading a gradient on both LCDs, both showed more than acceptable performance in gradlin. The LG's colors weren't quite as 'intense' if you will and looked slightly faded in the middle, partly due to its matte coating (vs. the NEC's glossy). There was some banding (really gradation) in the dark areas like on my NEC. They basically weren't much different.

The 20WMGX2's only obvious advantages over the L226WT are: uniformity, screen/viewing angle stability, and midtone vibrancy. The L226WT showed very acceptable text performance, although my dad's opinion was that it was too bright. I'm used to using a 20WMGX2 at 200 nits all day, so the L226WT at 200 nits and being higher contrast reproduced better text than the NEC from what I could see with my eyes. The text was darker and easier to see, and not overly sharp. It could be a byproduct of the screen size but it was definitely higher contrast than the NEC.

The LG had trouble reproducing the whole range of colors as well as the NEC at the same time, even if it reproduced a small range of colors better than the NEC could. In lots of images, detail was "swallowed" and blended in on the LG, not distinct like on the 20WMGX2. Only at certain settings could you see the whole color range, and at those settings the picture wasn't very dazzling. I found a happy medium and decided to attempt calibration. More on that later.

The NEC undoubtedly had better response time control, and usually better response time period. The LG had noticeable artifacts during movement while the NEC's motion was mostly flawless. During gaming (UT2004, BF2, tuxracer) in dual-LCD clone mode I felt myself looking over to the NEC more. It was easier to see enemies, easier to see dark areas, and easier to focus on shooting things overall. It felt more responsive, too. The snow in tuxracer (penguin racing game) was a lot more detailed on the NEC.

The kinks in the LG's armor (such as the inability to show distinct tones) didn't manifest themselves as much as you'd think. By and large the image reproduced by the LG rivaled the NEC, besting it in some cases because of higher contrast. This was very surprising coming out of a TN LCD. Still, the viewing angle issues and lack of color/hue distinction as mentioned above put it below the NEC overall, especially for photo editing. Despite the LG having higher contrast it was unable to show the midtone range that the NEC was. It's as if the contrast was rather unbalanced. Midtones looked faded and washed out in comparison to the NEC's almost overly intense, vibrant tones. Though for general use it's great, and for videos/gaming it's not bad. In videos the 20WMGX2 was able to capture the overall aura and tone better than the LG (sort of like a CRT), which seemed more erratic. In a few cases the NEC appeared a lot more natural, but the LG "appeared" slightly more natural in most cases due to higher contrast.

Now for the calibration results.

Target: 200 cd/m2, 6500K, L* curve

NEC 20WMGX2 (DVI): dA=0.0, dB=0.0. 0.20 dE94 avg, 0.70 max, 0.21 std. dev; contrast: 528:1 (200 white/0.38 black). Screenshot; ICM (brightness: 36.7, contrast: 48.0, standard DV, ADVM off, R: 93.7, G: 89.8, B: 91.7, sharpness: 16.6)

LG L226WT (DVI): dA=0.1, dB=0.2. 0.48 dE94 avg, 1.39 max, 0.31 std. dev; contrast: 899:1 (196 white/0.22 black). Screenshot; ICM (f-Engine: Normal, brightness: 72, contrast: 65, gamma: 0, color: sRGB, sharpness: 5)

The sRGB setting in the LG was almost exactly 6500.0 K. That was another thing I liked about this LCD: it seemed more accurate than the NEC by default.

The NEC returned more accurate colors but the LG had a much higher contrast (about 900:1!) Quite amazing for a TN. After calibration, the NEC was able to reproduce the black level test much better, though it was acceptable on the LG. Testing with calibration was done one monitor at a time, i.e. I applied the NEC profile and looked at the NEC, and then applied the LG profile and looked at the LG. There are no mechanisms to send a gamma profile to each monitor that I know of.

There were no technical problems with it. DDC worked flawlessly, the name of the monitor and native resolution was recognized, and hook-up was a snap. The LG seems to only support single-link DVI as opposed to the NEC's higher-bandwidth dual-link port. That shouldn't be an issue at 1680x1050 anyway, but it is worth mentioning.

Black and solid colors were reproduced better on the NEC. They were very clear and bright, and black was uniform and pitch black due to the coating. Even though the colorimeter posted a black level almost twice as high on the NEC, it could be because of the coating that black seems darker to me on the NEC.

Overall, the LG is the most impressive TN I've ever used. Whether it matches the 20WMGX2 might even be a matter of opinion. I feel that for gaming and video-related activities it falls short due to the viewing angle and aforementioned color rendition issues. For general usage, the higher contrast, slightly more natural white (the NEC had a reddish hue) and bigger image is more pleasing to the eyes.
 

MichaelD

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I received my Dell 2407WFP. Rev. A04, made in Mexico. At the top of the service menu, it says

V1B29 HN20826

I have no idea what those two codes mean; hopefully someone can tell me.

No dead pixels that I can see, (I did have one stuck pixel (on black, I think) but just rubbing the screen for a second made it go away.) Believe me; I gave the screen a THOROUGH inspection! I had my eye so close to the screen for so long that I gave myself a headache.

I used this site to test: http://www.gdargaud.net/Hack/DeadPixels.html

Running at default res of 1920x1200 on a 7900GTO (93.71 drivers, stock speeds). Loaded the .inf profile off the CD. NO issues at all, monitor recognized as a Dell 2407WFP by Windows in Device Mangler.

I have gamed for a few hours at default res and watched a few minutes of a DVD; no banding issues, no visual issues of any kind.

The monitor arrived completely unscathed in the stock packaging. So far, I'm VERY happy!

This thread was an awesome resource when considering what large format widescreen LCD to purchase. Thanks to the OP and everyone that has contributed. :thumbsup:

Just FYI; my usage will be roughly 60% gaming/surfing, 40% video editing.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: CP5670
You may want to update the average price on the 90GX2. It's widely available for just over $200 now ($210 on Newegg, $170 AR on Directron). I guess these huge price cuts have to do with the Pro version's impending release, but the original one is still a great monitor.

Fix committed.

Originally posted by: StonieJ
I started this question in a new thread, but I think perhaps this would be a good place to continue it.

I am interested in buying a large, widescreen LCD to use as an external monitor for a widescreen tablet PC, so I need the ability to rotate the monitor freely and quickly between landscape and portrait orientation to match whatever I'm doing on the tablet. I was originally interested in the 22" Samsung 226BW, but I was told in my original thread that TN panels were unsuitable for portrait mode due to poor image quality in that orientation. I don't plan on doing much using the monitor/tablet besides school work and occasional gaming/movies/Photoshop (just as hobbies...not a professional here by any means). I looked at some of the top-ranked monitors in the original post, and I'm wondering what your thoughts on the following are:

20.1"w: Acer AL2051W, 1680x1050 (16:10)
It's cheap, but a bit smaller than I would like (21" at the least). Does P-MVA have good portrait mode quality?

20.1"w: NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2, 1680x1050 (16:10)
Again, a bit small, but has an AS-IPS panel.

21.0"w: Samsung SyncMaster 215TW, 1680x1050 (16:10)
More the size I'm looking for, but I'm curious about the comment "However, this model reportedly has lots of input lag (like the 2407WFP). If you know you'd be sensitive to this, your best choice would be to avoid it." I'm guessing that just means that you'll notice a significant lag time between your actions and what appears on the screen. Any comments or first hand experience?

22"w: LG Flatron L226WT, 1680x1050 (16:10)
This is a TN panel, but listed as the "best 22" LCD." Even though this is a TN, will this "best" version have good portrait mode quality?

And lastly, what are your thoughts on that Samsung 226BW I was originally interested in?


At the moment, I'd say I'm definitely leaning most heavily towards the SyncMaster 215TW (big size, non-TN), but I will go to Best Buy and check them out firsthand before making any commitment.

Thanks for the help!

I would agree that the 215TW best suits your needs. TNs aren't all that great in portrait mode. I doubt most people notice the input lag. In fact, I bet the claims are just based on the fact that this LCD is so popular and that people have CRT-like expectations for it. No LCD is as fast as a CRT, period. The 215TW is nevertheless a great LCD.

Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
What happened to the sticky?

Anyway, you can't rotate the 20WMGX2 90 degrees. That said, it is the best panel out of the crop you posted. But you don't need to rotate the screen for use with your tablet I don't think. The video card will detect it as a second screen, which means it will have its own complete set of settings, horizontal/landscape, resolution, color depth, etc., etc., etc... which is unaffected by what the tablet has on its screen.

I think that it really depends on what you want out of the monitor as to which one you get. For color correctness, and multi-media, you will not beat the NEC. For office work, the Samsung may be a slightly better choice, but that depends on your room lighting. Personally I prefer correct color representation over extreme contrast and brightness. The NEC no dead pixel garranty is hard to beat...

They have a no dead pixel guarantee? I certainly wasn't aware of that, although their support team is generally very nice and forgiving.

Originally posted by: madh83
How does this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001095 compare with the Acer AL2051W, 1680x1050 (16:10)

Haven't seen either first hand, but the AL2051W incorporates a P-MVA panel which is generally rated higher than TNs like the 206BW. You can't go wrong with the 206BW though, it's one of the best TNs out there. The AL2051W does have a glossy panel and as such I'd prefer the Acer myself for that alone.

Originally posted by: werdna130
Oh, sorry, I meant what is the 8-bit P-MVA panel, i read the first post that has some info on that type of screen, but im not sure exactly about what it all means

Then maybe this article will help: http://www.lcdresource.com/lcdtech/

Originally posted by: amd7674
xtknight and others,

I just bought 20WMGX2 and I'm very happy with it. I still have like a week to decide if I want to keep it or not. What troubles me is Tom's hardware review, it says that this montor is not that good for photo editing. IMHO after playing with the settings I like picture much better (opticlear?) than my previous HP LP2065 (S-IPS) and Dell 2007FPW (S-IPS). I saw suggestion I should turn off ADVM and I should adjust my contrast manualy.

Blah...Tom's. They've made more than a couple of mistakes before and I've suffered due to them. I don't worry about what other people say about it. It's a great LCD and it's perfectly fine for photo editing. It's better than 95% of the LCDs out there for this purpose just due to the fact it's S-IPS. The fact it's glossy doesn't take away from its photo editing capabilities despite baseless claims. It produces balanced, natural tones and comes out dead accurate on the colorimeter.

Is this monitor as good as HP LP2065 or better for photo editing (I know there is 4:3 vs. 16:10 and glossy vs. matte)?

Probably better.

Since I don't have a hw calibration tool, can someone share his/her settings? I work in the dark room, so I'm trying to avoid anything with over 25 brightness.

I just want to make sure the extra money I'm paying for NEC is worth it.

TIA

As mentioned I post all my settings in my profiles thread.
 

Mogget

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xtknight, my budget has increased enough for me to consider a better monitor...

I quite like the idea of widescreen, so I'm looking at 20"+ monitors. I get the impression this is your territory . Reviews seem quite positive about the Samsung 206BW: http://www.samsung.com/au/products/monitors/tft/tvmonitor/206bw.asp ? plus it's readily available here. Do you (or anyone else here) have experience with this monitor?

Price: NZ$556.95

Other options:

Hewlett Packard L2045w Price: NZ$543.69
LG Electronics L204WT-SF Price: NZ$582.12
ViewSonic VX2235wm Price: NZ$560.89 <-- 22"
ViewSonic VX2025wm Price: NZ$545.58
And Dell monitors

? I notice the ViewSonic monitors have some potential problems (listed in the guide).
? Both the LG and Samsung are listed together in the recommended Multimedia section. That's a good thing I guess

I know NEC monitors are meant to be good, but unfortunately I can't get them here.

I would really appreciate advice, as on the surface there seems little separating these monitors.

Thanks!
 

xxTurbonium

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xtknight (or anyone else for that matter): Samsung recently announced that they will be releasing LCDs with LED backlights (that's how I understood it).

Seeing as Samsung is good at announcing things far before they are released (6 months+), when do you think Samsung LCDs with LED-based backlights will be available as widescreen PC monitors?
 

MichaelD

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I received my Dell 2407WFP. Rev. A04, made in Mexico. At the top of the service menu, it says

V1B29 HN20826

I have no idea what those two codes mean, but would like to know.
 

imported_nautilus

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Hey guys!
Beteween these two monitors, what do you thing it's the best for playing games:

Samsung 932B - http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitor.../LS19PEBSFVXAA.asp?page=Specifications

Panel Viewable area 19"
Pixel Pitch(mm) 0.294
Brightness(cd/§³)(typ.) 300 cd/§³
Contrast Ratio(typ.) 700:1 (DC 2000:1)
Viewing Angle(H/V) 160¢ª/160¢ª (CR>5)
Response Time(ms)(typ.) 5
Frequency Horizontal Frequency(kHz) 30~81
Vertical Frequency(Hz) 56-75
Maximum Resolution 1280x1024
Color Supported 16.2 Mil.
Signal Input Input Video Signal Analog RGB, DVI
Sync. Type Separate H/V, Composite, SOG
Input Connectors 15pin D-sub, DVI-D

AOC 193P - http://www.aoc.com.br/site_v1/php/index.php?req=produto&ctg_tipo=1&prd_id=119

Panel Viewable area 19"
Pixel Pitch(mm) 0.294
Brightness(cd/§³)(typ.) 270 cd/§³
Contrast Ratio(typ.) 500:1
Viewing Angle(H/V) 160¢ª/160¢ª
Response Time(ms)(typ.) 4
Frequency Horizontal Frequency(kHz) 30~83
Vertical Frequency(Hz) 55-75
Maximum Resolution 1280x1024
Color Supported 16.7 Mil.
Signal Input Input Video Signal Analog RGB, DVI
Sync. Type Separate H/V, Composite, SOG
Input Connectors 15pin D-sub, DVI-D
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
I received my Dell 2407WFP. Rev. A04, made in Mexico. At the top of the service menu, it says

V1B29 HN20826

I have no idea what those two codes mean, but would like to know.

The left one, I'm not really sure. I'm pretty sure the right one is the REAL OEM Model number. I'm guessing it's the model number of the Samsung panel it's really made from. Sometimes people compare that if they have problems, see if the new batch is causing the problem. If you want more info, go to hardforums. They regularly bring that number up.

And Congratulations on a fine panel. Lucky bastard, I rubbed my stuck pixel and it didn't go anywhere. Oh well, noticing it less by the day since it's pretty far from my viewing plane (monitor center). That and my 21 day return period is up in a few days, so I can no longer worry about returning it. If you do run into a colored ghosting problem, just turn those down a bit and it'll be virtually unnoticable.
 
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