Low Radiation
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Originally posted by: Low Radiation
Can someone with experience compare response times of 2080uxi and 2070nx?
Thanx guys...
Originally posted by: Talcite
What's a good way to calibrate the LCD for contrast and brightness setttings? I don't see myself buying an electronic eye, but I'd like to have some setting that's relatively accurate if possible.
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: samduhman
Is something really wrong with Viewsonics VX2025 20" lcd or are people just dumb like me?
Here's what happened. I recieved my lcd back from their repair center (they repaired the OSD buttons) but they forgot to send back my digital cable. So I used the analog cable with a dvi adapter for a few days. A friend of mine had a spare digital cable so he gave it to me. I hooked it up and nothing, blank screen. I went through a number of troubleshooting attempts for about 5 minutes without any luck. Finally I dug down in the OSD options and there is a setting for digital or analog. I simply changed it to digital and waa laaa! I seriously thought the dvi was now bad on my lcd but it was a simple setting.
I don't know. I assume they know about the input controls. Why do I only hear it about this monitor? Perhaps it just has a different default?
Originally posted by: Low Radiation
1. NEC 20wgx2 - high brightness frightens me (please tell me it's calm to the eyes and that you can look at it all day)
Originally posted by: Worthington
My 20wmgx2 shows your square at 3,3,3. Now that i know what to look for I keep telling myself I see it at 2,2,2 but I'm pretty sure thats my imagination
Well it arrived today, and I'm not seeing anything I'd call ghosting(though I don't own another LCD, either). I'm also not seeing any mouse lag, so I really don't have any complaints so far.Originally posted by: xtknight
The LCD2070NX is slightly slower than a regular TN (~22ms) for gaming, but not too bad. It's tops in every other category. I'm not sure about anyone else but I'd gladly game on it. Just to be on the safe side I haven't put it under gaming yet, but several reviews have reported minimal ghosting. That doesn't mean what apr is saying is false but almost all LCDs (all the overdrive ones) have input lag to my knowledge. He didn't mention ghosting as a problem though.
As for apr you'd probably be happy with the NEC 20WMGX2 unless widescreen isn't your thing.
Originally posted by: xtknight
Set contrast and brightness to 100 with DV mode off and you still can't see lower than 6,6,6, even if it's blindingly bright at that point? I guess your only choice then is to raise gamma. That really shouldn't be happening though.
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Well it arrived today, and I'm not seeing anything I'd call ghosting(though I don't own another LCD, either). I'm also not seeing any mouse lag, so I really don't have any complaints so far.
What can you tell me about these DV modes though, xtknight? I'm not seeing anything in the manual.
Originally posted by: guimasun
I'm searching for a 19" LCD that works great mainly for text reading, because I'm using the computer 80% for programming !
After some web searching and articles, Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP and Sony X-Brite seems good options.
Any tip on the easiest LCD on the eyes for text reading ?
Thanks for any tip !
Originally posted by: apr
I've tried it, and nothing below 9 will show up at that point. In fact I photographed the screen att brightness/contrast 100/100 and RGB 6/6/6 won't even show up at severe overexposure on the camera's part (Nikon D50). It's like it doesn't exist.
I tried using the ATI Catalyst colour settings to flip the gamma around until something showed up, and at setting 1.20 (1.0 is default) I can make out RGB 5,5,5. The downside is that it introduces severe banding in gradients. I can also increase brightness 20 points, which will allow darker grays to show up, but I stop seeing the difference between RGB 250,250,250 and 255,255,255 (bad).
The panel's simply incapable of showing the spectrum from black to white properly. Above RGB 10,10,10 everything looks splendid (very minor banding depending on brightness/contrast settings, with the best results at brightness ~33 and contrast ~50), but it's quite useless for editing photos.
It's possible that it will perform differently in daylight, however, so I will report back tomorrow when the sun's up. I haven't noticed any input lag on this screen, btw.
Originally posted by: apr
Argh, here I am with a NEC 20WGX2, and while the image is colorful and pretty, the black levels are absolutely TERRIBLE. I've been trying all the DV modes, all possible brighness/contrast combinations, and fiddling with QuickGamma to try to bring them up. Unfortunately, no matter how hard I try, I can't see any darks below RGB 10,10,10, which is utter garbage. My broken old CRT will start showing it around RGB 3,3,3! If I remember correctly, the NEC LCD2070NX actually showed up around 5, which was acceptable, but editing black and white photos on this screen is impossible, when the lower half of the spectrum shows up as a big black blob. The special DV modes have insane banding, and advance DV will actually adjust brighness and contrast depending on what your screen is showing, so moving a photo around will make the same pixels look brighter and darker depending on where they are on the screen, which is, again, utter garbage.
I haven't tried gaming or movie watching or anything such yet, but so far the glossy coating seems more pleasant than the matte alternative of the 2070NX, but with the crappy blacks I am miserable with this screen.
I'm hoping other 20WGX2 owners will assist me and check where they start seeing the gray square on the following page:
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/Calibration/monitor_black.htm
Please report back if you can see it below 10 without bringing dithering about, and at what settings.
No, I mean 250 and 255, since raising the brightness will simply bump up all levels by x steps, meaning 250 in effect becomes the same as 255. This is from looking at a gray level test chart, not the website linked earlier.Originally posted by: xtknight
You mean RGB (0,0,0) and (5,5,5) right? Or is the bright side of the scale getting clipped too? Did you say you saw dithering in the dark tones? On my VP930b the first tone that appears (to my eyes) is (2,2,2) and it is quite dithered. Did you also try setting user color to 100% on all r,g,b components at brightness 100/contrast 100? Try changing sharpness? (no clue but it's worth a try) This is with DVI?
Maybe you're misunderstanding me. The gradients look fine in DV standard, but are horrible in the "special" DV modes. I can also see the difference between the upper levels (250-255) fine in DV standard. The trouble occurs when I try to fiddle with gamma to see RGB 5,5,5 since this will mess up gradients a whole lot, along with clipping a bit of the top whites. Thus the choice is either seeing 10-255 with good gradients, or 5-250 with bad gradients.Originally posted by: xtknight
I'm thinking there's a bad batch going around. Several (knowledgeable users that I trust) have reported absolutely no gradient problems. I'll have to check it out when I get it. I totally understand your frustration though. 16/255 ({0-9},{250-255}) is a lot of tones to sacrifice.