Originally posted by: lepump
Sometimes this thread feels like a NEC 20WMGX2 commercial
Maybe xtKnight is a plant.
Originally posted by: lepump
Sometimes this thread feels like a NEC 20WMGX2 commercial
Originally posted by: lepump
Sometimes this thread feels like a NEC 20WMGX2 commercial
XL20 released in Japan
http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/22/sams...he-720td-711nd-and-xl20-lcds-in-japan/
but no price.. shamed!
btw.. how does the Dell 2007WFP compare to the NEC 20WMGX2 ??
is the price difference worth it (here 375? and 600?)
On this page it lists 160,000 JPY. That's $1,370.80 USD. Considering it'll probably be cheaper in the US...let's say $1000....not bad really for a 20" with LED backlights, especially with no competition. But more expensive than I was expecting.
Originally posted by: lepump
On this page it lists 160,000 JPY. That's $1,370.80 USD. Considering it'll probably be cheaper in the US...let's say $1000....not bad really for a 20" with LED backlights, especially with no competition. But more expensive than I was expecting.
That's what I thought when I read it. But why does it say "Price: Open price" and Engadget says "Unfortunately, there's no word on price"?
..Maybe they updated the page since they posted the story.
Hmmm.. Wonder how much ?/$ for the 24'' model ? (the one i really want, but probably can't afford/buy a 40'' TV instead)
*edit*
Incase some of you haven't seen the highQ video..
http://cebitvideo.com/?p=15
Originally posted by: talgtapp
Thanx for the replies xtknight and jbbrown!
"Most PVAs are 6-bit. Sorry, I don't know of any IPSs or S-PVAs under $300 either, not even 15" ones."
Pretty much what I expected :-(
I have seen the ViewSonic VX2025wm recommended for graphic work over at prad.de, it has a P-MVA panel. I just might be able to afford that one.
Is it good enough, or should I wait?
Originally posted by: lepump
Sometimes this thread feels like a NEC 20WMGX2 commercial
Maybe xtKnight is a plant.
Originally posted by: johnnyMon
For me, the glossy screen coatings make graphics look phenomenal, but cause too much reflection (of lights, windows, etc.) for easy reading of text.
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: johnnyMon
For me, the glossy screen coatings make graphics look phenomenal, but cause too much reflection (of lights, windows, etc.) for easy reading of text.
I think all monitors should have xbrite/opticlear.
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: talgtapp
Thanx for the replies xtknight and jbbrown!
"Most PVAs are 6-bit. Sorry, I don't know of any IPSs or S-PVAs under $300 either, not even 15" ones."
Pretty much what I expected :-(
I have seen the ViewSonic VX2025wm recommended for graphic work over at prad.de, it has a P-MVA panel. I just might be able to afford that one.
Is it good enough, or should I wait?
That's as good as you're gonna get. There is the NEC LCD1970NX that uses S-IPS and costs ~$360 but I'ven't heard a thing about it. This review doesn't make it look that thrilling: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/nec1970nx/index.html
I don't believe 8-bit super CCFL/LED monitors will be very cheap if that's what you mean by wait. The next cheapest good photo editing monitor I know of is the Dell 2007WFP, which retails for $373.15 off Dell.com. If you could somehow afford that, you'd be much happier. Is price really that important? You just don't want to go cheap if you're talking about photo editing. For gaming, cheap ones are the fastest so it's not an issue, but that's not the case for photo editing.
Originally posted by: xtknight
I don't believe 8-bit super CCFL/LED monitors will be very cheap if that's what you mean by wait. The next cheapest good photo editing monitor I know of is the Dell 2007WFP, which retails for $373.15 off Dell.com. If you could somehow afford that, you'd be much happier. Is price really that important? You just don't want to go cheap if you're talking about photo editing. For gaming, cheap ones are the fastest so it's not an issue, but that's not the case for photo editing.
What exactly is this CCFL/LED technology? I have heard a little talk of a better backlight coming to the market, but I don't really know much about it.Originally posted by: talgtapp
The new CCFL/LED should drive down the prices for S-IPS and S-PVA monitors, don't you think?
Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
I had a look at some LCDs today and the best one of the bunch was the 215TW, and it was ok - no 20WMGX2 though.
The VX2025 looked like garbage.
They had some Hanns-Gs which looked horrible... terrible viewing angles, washed out, bad color, etc. The TNs look flat out bad to me and I can't see being pleased using one on a daily basis.
Then I walked by a Sony Vaio and it looked really crisp and more "CRT-like" only with better colors and contrast than most CRTs. I think the Xbrite coating makes a big difference... I guess the Opticlear would achieve the same effect.
I ended up getting a used 19" Hitachi CRT for $20 while I wait to see what transpires in LCD land - actually it has pretty good geometry and convergence, sharp even at the corners. I think I would only buy an LCD with Opticlear/Xbrite at this point, the ones without just can't compete. Maybe in 2-3 months we'll start seeing the super CCFLs in NEC monitors. For some reason, Samsung refuses to use the glossy coating, which really makes me not too interested in their LCDs.
Originally posted by: talgtapp
Right now my economy is ****** so I really can't afford anything, within a month I should be able to afford a 300$ monitor. But its pointless spending that for something I won?t be happy with. In a couple of months I might have 500$ to spend and in 4 months time I know I will.
The new CCFL/LED should drive down the prices for S-IPS and S-PVA monitors, don't you think?
Originally posted by: jbbrown
What exactly is this CCFL/LED technology? I have heard a little talk of a better backlight coming to the market, but I don't really know much about it.
I think I'm just going to wait a few months to get a good S-IPS or S-PVA monitor for under $300.
Originally posted by: Kung Foo
Hi. I'm a newbie on this forum. Great to see that such a thread is here, and people are actively participating
I'm looking for my first LCD, and thought that it should be a rather pretty nice one straight from the beginning.
Criterias are: 20-21" widescreen, quick enough, and good colors. I do some image editing, but the basic use is surfing, movies and such. I game a bit, but not much. The monitor should be "a good all-rounder". Budget is around 300-400?. I live in North Europe, so the availability of high-end monitors is not that good.
I was wondering about the new LG TN panels. I have the LG L204WT-SF in mind, which is now available here for 329?.
As I understand, the color quality of TN panels are generally not that good as with S-IPS.
There are however a few user comments on the net about the good colors on it, e.g. good blacks.
But how would you rate the LG's new panel?
So is the LG's panel a good all-rounder, or should I still concider an S-IPS panel?
S-IPS panels tend to cost much more here (e.g. Dell 2007WFP 628?, and Samsung SyncMaster 215TW 630?)!
Originally posted by: Kung Foo
The NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2 seems to cost here about 600?, AND the availability is really poor So that's out of the question. Too bad.
It might be possible to get e.g. a Samsung 215TW cheaper (around 550?) from web shops, but I'd not rather do that. I like to have the service close if there's any hw problems (also, the zero dead pixel policy is easy to get locally).
Dell seems to only ship here online selling from it's own web site, so they do not propably want to ship from a different country. They do however have those sales (-25%) here too, but never at least below 450?.
So, the question is, that is the image quality of e.g. Dell 2007WFP, Samsung 215TW or NEC 20WMGX2 or other good panels so much better, that it would be worth spending something like 150-250? more?
Originally posted by: Kung Foo
Thanks xtknight.
I guess I have no real choices (I'm really not willing to put 600? on a screen), so I'll propably give the LG 204 a try
Any further thoughts about the LG?
I've seen two or so user reviews about it, but if you've got more info on it, I'd really appreciate it.
Originally posted by: lepump
I'd just like to know if you diisagree on anything else in these reviews except for image quality..
(are we really supposed to trust a page even if it's called trusted? )
http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=2990
http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=3081