Originally posted by: adamsleath
if you have 2 panels with the same spec. s on paper, one of which is a samsung panel, the other of which is an lg-philips panel, which one would be "better"?
Are LG-Philips panels made in Europe?...oo Europe AND Asia.
I believe LG Philips panels are made in only South Korea but I could be wrong.
Generally LG Philips makes panels that have better display characteristics than the Samsungs.
Edit:
As of December 31, 2006 we operate seven fabrication facilities located in Gumi and Paju, Korea and five module facilities located in Gumi & Paju of Korea, Nanjing (3 factories) of China. We plan to start mass production at module facility in Wroclaw, Poland in the first quarter of 2007.
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http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/adminConta...%20Yearly%20Report_(070330)_final1.pdf )
Originally posted by: FireChicken
Any Idea when the higher refresh rate monitors (75hz+) are coming out. Thanks
I don't believe they will be. Although so-called "120 Hz" LCDs will be forthcoming, these just input a 60 Hz and interpolate to smooth the motion. In other words, their DSP can't receive anything higher than a 60 Hz refresh rate like most LCDs.
There are a couple LCDs that can input 75 Hz although they may use frame discarding to 'convert' it to 60 Hz, which may cause jittering in the picture. My ViewSonic VP930b seemed to support it without problems and I used it regularly. Some of LG's monitors like the L2000C may support 72 Hz without trouble, and it's been rumored than some Dell ones do 75 Hz fine when forced. Some monitors, the Samsung 970P is the only one I know of, have problems using 75 Hz that result in a lower response time (the overdrive look-up table for that mode is not populated).
Originally posted by: ElFenix
any 23" S-IPS other than apple's? can't imagine that no one else is buying those from the manufacturer.
seems like the NEC is the only 24" S-IPS.
Search for "LM230" here (though I don't believe availability is anything to write home about when it comes to big-screen S-IPS panels):
http://www.flatpanels.dk/panels.php
Originally posted by: arcarsenal
Originally posted by: xtknight
I would easily try the 206BW. Regardless of what your needs may be, I'm willing to bet it's quite a bit better than the 205BW, actually. I haven't listed it yet as I'm not 100% positive. I'm the type of person to take a gamble and not mind the possible restocking fee, so if you're like me give the 206BW a test run. The 226BW is miles ahead of the 225BW.
I finally came to the decision, to bite the bullet and buy a 206bw. However, because of the A and S panel lottery, I've been trying to find a shop who is willing to open one before I buy it. I've had no luck, no one is willing to do this and samsung won't help either.
I'm thinking of going for the LG 204WT ($330AU) compared to $400-$450AU for the 206bw. But LG's dead pixel policy requires 6 dead pixels to warrant a replacement, compared to the 1 dead pixel of samsung.
In your opinion, is the LG a better multi-use monitor than the 205bw? It can be had for less cash at least. But LG's policy frightens me.
Thanks again for your time.
I wasn't aware the 206BW was part of a panel lottery (only the 226BW). And like has been said below, I'm not sure if you'll be any safer with the L204WT since it's also part of a lottery but what monitor isn't these days? I haven't heard of any bad L204WTs yet so maybe both panels are competent. I'm not sure which is the better of the two (the Chunghwa or the LG Philips) but if I had to hazard the guess it would be the LG Philips. You're actually lucky to have a 1 dead pixel policy, and 6 isn't bad compared to the typical 8 or 10 in the US. They just can't offer us any better policies because we buy too many monitors!
And yes, I do believe that the L204WT is superior to anything Samsung has to offer but that is just based off reading stuff on the web more than anything else.
Originally posted by: Duke79
Thanks for your assistance! I had no idea it was going to be so difficult to obtain information about the varients of the LG L226WT* models. I appreciate the work that adamsleath and xtknight have provided.
I am surprised that the "WTX" model costs more at NE than the plain "WT" model at BB. Usually it is the other way around.
Hopefully more information will surface about these variants that will more clearly detail the differences.
I'm attempting to get info on how to access the service menu for LG L22* monitors (just needed a Polish phrase translated):
"Zeby przekonac sie jaka Ty masz wersje sprobuj wejsc w menu serwisowe LG (wylacz monitor, wlacz ponownie trzymajac wczesniej wcisniety klawisz/klawisze, zazwyczaj jest to key MENU)" (
http://forum.purepc.pl/index.php?s=f446...205766&st=1470&p=2515588&#entry2515588 )
From an online translation it seems like it says "this may void warranty; turn off monitor, press power button to ON and hold, then press MENU and a screen should appear".
I've checked the FCC's grantee database and no more IDs have been added for the 226 monitor under LG's manufacturer code ("BEJ") than I had previously posted.
Originally posted by: errto
I was looking at the 23" and 24" LCDs (I would actually prefer 23 but it seems there are a lot more options with 24) and two that caught my attention were the BenQ FP241W and HP LP2465. Height adjustment is important to me, more on the lower end than the higer: in particular I'm ruling out the Samsung 244T because its minimum height seems to high for me (my desk has a built-in monitor stand I can't easily remove, but this may change at some point). However, I do *not* care about Component/S-Video/HDMI inputs or PiP as I will be only using this as a monitor, not a TV. I also would prefer a non-black enclosure. Given that I'm tempted to go with the HP, but I am wondering: does the BenQ (or perhaps some other model) offer compelling advantages other than the ones I just mentioned?
The BenQ offers HDMI input and it uses a P-MVA panel. The HP LP2465 uses a Samsung panel, probably the same one in the Dell or other Samsung-based LCDs. Many sources say the P-MVA offers better color reproduction and backlight uniformity, so I would take that into account. On the pure monitor side of things I can't think of anything else the BenQ would be better at. It may have more scaling options (1:1, etc) but if I read your post correctly you don't care about these. It may also sport a faster response time than the HP but may have more input lag. Both companies offer three year warranties for their 24" LCDs.
BenQ's warranty PDF
HP LP2465 warranty (though it seems you can get 4 years): Limited 3 years parts, labour and on-site service, including backlight. Availability varies by region. Certain restrictions and exclusions apply. For details, contact HP Customer Support or Service
You may also consider the LG L246WP although the BenQ seems to offer everything you want already so if I were you I'd just avoid the confusion and stick with the BenQ (of which I'm more confident recommending than the LG that uses the same panel).