Leader of the Free World

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No context or explanation for what that actually means.

Influence, power and control... over Europe? For what purpose, to what end? Are there examples of our power over them being put to good use?

Do you know nothing of modern world history?
 

agent00f

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I felt this deserves its own topic.

In Trump's first foreign adventure our Allies got to meet our President and hear how he differs.... In return their press appears eager to cast shadows over the whole affair. From Merkel speaking up a stronger, more determined, Europe to Macron describing how petty Trump's quirky handshake is. There's a culture of personality lashing out, and whether the leaders participate or not the media is driving a narrative of shaky alliances. They want you to believe America's position in the world is at stake. Is it?

So beyond arguing over Trump's transgressions, which I am sure we can do... what does it mean to be the Leader of the Free World, and how is that put at risk? Does it mean we compensate Europe's minor defense spending by "protecting" them with our own? Does it mean we keep and maintain military bases across the world to enable our "global reach"? Does it mean we take up a leadership position and drag other nations around by the nose? That we determine interventions in other nation's affairs?

What does it all mean, how does it ultimately benefit or harm us? Is it our power play at world domination?
How much of this should we actually be doing?

Asking for your thoughts on recent events and what it means for America to be "Leader of the Free World".


Markel: Europe can't rely on US
German leader says Europeans must take their fate into their own hands

Macron says Donald Trump is like Presidents of Russia and Turkey
He told French newspaper Le Journal du Dimanche: “Donald Trump, the Turkish president or the Russian president see relationships in terms of a balance of power.

People love Angela Merkel's face after she said Germany could no longer count on America as an ally

The standing Trump/Murica loses by acting a lackey for Putin is similar to the standing you lose by these apologetics for Trump. These europeans in question are simply smart enough to get on the right side of that.
 

alien42

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No context or explanation for what that actually means.

Influence, power and control... over Europe? For what purpose, to what end? Are there examples of our power over them being put to good use?

it's complicated enough that there are volumes of books written about it and i'm not going to be the one to attempt to teach you history.

an isolationist America loses influence, power and control, is it really that hard for you to understand that?
 

Roflmouth

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I'm glad Merkel found time out of her busy schedule of importing rapists to comment on the President's fitness.
 

shortylickens

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1909 all over again! Cm'on read some American history. We can learn and not let a corrupt President sit in office for four years.

The kind of people who voted for Trump either cut class every day, or went to a school that still refers to the Civil War as the "War of Northern Aggression"

Do you really think they know history from 1909?
 
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Pens1566

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Yeah, lots of people happy about this turn of international events probably couldn't buy their way to a passing grade in a class on history post 1900. Isolationist US with feuding factions in Europe and a militaristic dictator in Asia. What could go wrong?
 
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