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AnkleBreaka

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Hi,
I am having trouble with the sound not matching up with the video after about 45 min. in when recording a show. I mean, its at least 4 seconds off. How should I go about fixing this problem??
 

vroom1810

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I have to say these leadtek cards are really great. I got the "expert" about a month or so and really like it.....however, I couldn't do too much on the computer at all while recording, especially....because of the overload on the computer. I just recently got a Hauppauge pvr250 and think this will solve the problem. I just installed it last night so can't comment too much, but it does the encoding (or whatever it is) with the card instead of Leadtek's products that use the software and much more cpu usage (from what i've heard). I'll put the leadtek card on my pc in my bedroom that i mainly use to watch tv on the monitor. I'll use the Hauppauge for my main recording in the other room on my better pc that i also upgraded mememor to two 512mb sticks instead of one 512 and one 256. The increased cpu useage with the leadtek cards may be why voice and video don't sinc...especially a little after the recording starts. I guess the only way to avoid this is to max out your pc memory capabilities and don't do anything else on the computer! I've had computers for several years now and don't know a whole lot about them....just general things, but i have to say these pvr cards are just about the best accessories i've ever gotten for my pcs and wish i'd done it sooner!
 

AnkleBreaka

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Feb 12, 2004
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I also wanted to add that I am using SuperVCD, and I am not converting it or editing it at all, but about 30-45 min. through, the sound starts to become way off??

Originally posted by: AnkleBreaka
Hi,
I am having trouble with the sound not matching up with the video after about 45 min. in when recording a show. I mean, its at least 4 seconds off. How should I go about fixing this problem??

 

Phamine

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I've been using it over a week for directtv and the radio. i have a leadtek expert btw. I havent tried any captures with the card so far. I have directtv connected with an s-video cable that came with my radeon. Picture quality is better than I expected. I haven't found a use for the remote since I'm using the satelite remote.

Radio reception with the antenna is okay, not too great.

Question: Has anyone replaced the antenna that came with the car to something better and shorter? The cable is about 6 ft long.
 

mindless1

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Aug 11, 2001
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I've noticed something very odd...

When capturing to Divx 5, there seems to be some extra data or "padding" or something, a LOT of it.

For example, if I capture a clip with filesize 45.3 MB, then load it in Virtualdub, not editing or changing it in any way, just "direct stream copying", which leaves it compressed, not recompressed, the resulting re(saved) filesize is only 42.9MB. 2.4MB of unused or wasted space? I'm sure the file isn't being recompressed.

Doing this same procedure on any other Divx file (files not captured or previously loaded into Virtualdub) doesn't result in much if any filesize difference, just clips captured with the TV2000XP have this excess "space" in them. Wassup with that?
 

SpideyCU

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The problem with the thread getting this long is that it's too long for newcomers to read through all of it, and I recognize a lot of questions getting asked now that we've covered earlier.

For example, AnkleBreaka: take your file into VirtualDub (assuming it's an AVI) and set the frame rate and audio rates to match, and run a direct stream copy. Smaller file, synced sound.

mindless1, yes, running a direct stream copy will reduce the size some. I'm assuming it has something to do with the fact that it's encoding on the fly as it's being capturing. As such, there are a few "clumps" of data that end up being reserved, but not being needed, and are kind of ironed out when you restream the file, even without reencoding. At least, that's what I suspect
 

AnkleBreaka

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Feb 12, 2004
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What if it isn't AVI? I am using MPEG2. With AVI, for a 30 min clip, it takes up about 28GB.

Originally posted by: SpideyCU
The problem with the thread getting this long is that it's too long for newcomers to read through all of it, and I recognize a lot of questions getting asked now that we've covered earlier.

For example, AnkleBreaka: take your file into VirtualDub (assuming it's an AVI) and set the frame rate and audio rates to match, and run a direct stream copy. Smaller file, synced sound.

mindless1, yes, running a direct stream copy will reduce the size some. I'm assuming it has something to do with the fact that it's encoding on the fly as it's being capturing. As such, there are a few "clumps" of data that end up being reserved, but not being needed, and are kind of ironed out when you restream the file, even without reencoding. At least, that's what I suspect

 

AnkleBreaka

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Feb 12, 2004
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What if it isnt AVI? I am using MPEG2, cause avi takes up bout 28 GB just for a 30 min. clip.


Originally posted by: SpideyCU
The problem with the thread getting this long is that it's too long for newcomers to read through all of it, and I recognize a lot of questions getting asked now that we've covered earlier.

For example, AnkleBreaka: take your file into VirtualDub (assuming it's an AVI) and set the frame rate and audio rates to match, and run a direct stream copy. Smaller file, synced sound.

mindless1, yes, running a direct stream copy will reduce the size some. I'm assuming it has something to do with the fact that it's encoding on the fly as it's being capturing. As such, there are a few "clumps" of data that end up being reserved, but not being needed, and are kind of ironed out when you restream the file, even without reencoding. At least, that's what I suspect

 

mindless1

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AnkleBreaka, I don't claim to be an expert on codecs but even so I can't begin to provide all I know in the space of a few thread posts... an audio-video newsgroup or web forum, website, is a good place to learn more about codecs. There are many different codecs, many of which allow setting bitrate. That bitrate determines the resulting filesize per given amount of time.

You are not forced to use only the codecs that install with the application, you can go out on the 'net and choose one of many different codecs, download and install them, then in the Winfast PVR application settings window you choose to use that codec. You can save it as a profile if you like, then on the settings page, "Capture Profile Setting" button, if you click that you'll see the parameters for that profile, and further clicking the "Configuration" button on that page will take you to any additional settings specific to that codec, IF it supports any further parameter setting in this manner.

Also on the 'net you can find bitrate calculators, helpful initially to determine what the bitrate needs be to make it fit on the chosen media (typically DVD or CDR), or a bitrate compatible with (lower than) the realized throughput of a network, perhaps 802.11b or g is a constraint.
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: AnkleBreaka
I also wanted to add that I am using SuperVCD, and I am not converting it or editing it at all, but about 30-45 min. through, the sound starts to become way off??

Originally posted by: AnkleBreaka
Hi,
I am having trouble with the sound not matching up with the video after about 45 min. in when recording a show. I mean, its at least 4 seconds off. How should I go about fixing this problem??

It is to my understanding that the to become offset becuase your PC isnt powerful enough to do the capturing AND the encoding to SVCD on the fly (so one fall behind).

If you catpure to raw .avi then convert that file down to SVCD afterwards you should be fine.
Or you can try adjusting your capturing quality settings and see if that can let your PC keep up.
 

AnkleBreaka

Junior Member
Feb 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: AnkleBreaka
I also wanted to add that I am using SuperVCD, and I am not converting it or editing it at all, but about 30-45 min. through, the sound starts to become way off??

Originally posted by: AnkleBreaka
Hi,
I am having trouble with the sound not matching up with the video after about 45 min. in when recording a show. I mean, its at least 4 seconds off. How should I go about fixing this problem??

It is to my understanding that the to become offset becuase your PC isnt powerful enough to do the capturing AND the encoding to SVCD on the fly (so one fall behind).

If you catpure to raw .avi then convert that file down to SVCD afterwards you should be fine.
Or you can try adjusting your capturing quality settings and see if that can let your PC keep up.

Thanks a lot for the help, I think it is my computer thats messing up the sound. But is there any way to fix the sound on all the video I have already downloaded that is not avi? Because you can only use virtualdub if its in avi format.

 

corinthos

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Anyone who's been waiting for a lower price on this, Newegg now has the "Expert" for $51.00 shipped... lowest price I've seen yet... if you want to hold out until the price reaches the lows the "Deluxe" version reached (about $42), it might be a while...
 

mindless1

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It seems like every few days, Newegg has had refurb'd TV2000XP Deluxe cards for ~$30. I have two refurb'd Deluxes now, both work fine and included all the accessorites (though of course YMMV). Anyway you can check their refurbs section on the website or here's at least one while it lasts., though that link should bring up refurb'd cards of same model number in the future if/when any become available again... you'd just have to catch 'em while they have 'em.
 

mdcrab

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Can't check on the new retail ones because there is a limit of 10.

Think I may pick up one, before they're gone.

mdcrab.
 

psloan

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new drivers in the zip file, windows said could not find anything newer then I already had.
 

mindless1

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Aug 11, 2001
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Taiwan's not working too well at the moment either... Started one download with a download manager, came back and it was at the 29MB mark for an 18MB file. Started it up again with IE and it timed out partway thorough. It's a shame that the alt. server psloan didn't mention, isn't working.

 
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