League of Legends is officially a childs game

[cronos]

No idea why you keep using the most extreme case of verbal abuse possible, which isn't even all that bad to be honest. You make it seem like every time you play an online game someone is telling you to kill yourself. Maturity is subjective, and rules will always be broken. In real life I don't follow the rules all the time, and I don't know anyone that does either If you want to live that way by all means go on ahead. I think I am quite mature, and I grew up in a different environment than you. If you don't like name calling in online games then mute or ignore those that do it. For those that don't mind that type of behavior then its open game for them.

It's *how* you're dealing with the in game restrictions that made us doubt your maturity (by creating this thread, ranting about how your ability to verbally abuse your opponents were squashed). As you pointed out, some people like cursing and as someone else also mentioned, this could be a valid strategy in a competitive game, but when the rules change that restrict this practice when you are considered excessively abusive, mature people would dial it down and adjust, or simply just leave the game. They don't go around and rant about it. They especially don't accuse games of being child-like when there's rules that they don't like. At least that's how I see it.

Now, I don't want to be age-ist, but you are a member of the 20-25 year old kids I mentioned above, right? If so, I can understand and I can say that I am really not surprised.

 

[JumBie]

It's *how* you're dealing with the in game restrictions that made us doubt your maturity (by creating this thread, ranting about how your ability to verbally abuse your opponents were squashed). As you pointed out, some people like cursing and as someone else also mentioned, this could be a valid strategy in a competitive game, but when the rules change that restrict this practice when you are considered excessively abusive, mature people would dial it down and adjust, or simply just leave the game. They don't go around and rant about it. They especially don't accuse games of being child-like when there's rules that they don't like. At least that's how I see it.

Now, I don't want to be age-ist, but you are a member of the 20-25 year old kids I mentioned above, right? If so, I can understand and I can say that I am really not surprised.

The idea behind this thread is that the system is flawed. People are getting restricted for comments that are clearly not verbally abusive, more like constructive criticism. The system is automatic, there is no human interaction (apparently only on 14 day bans, still doubt it). So people can report you for not liking how you play, or what you said and the system will dish out punishments.

Also once again, people keep using the word mature, and using their own personal opinion of what a mature person is and should do. I have my own definition as well and it suits my life. You guys can argue over what it means to you if you see fit. As far as I am concerned your definition and mine will never be the same. I could doubt your level of maturity by not being able to handle verbal abuse, but then you would argue that as well right?

 

[JumBie]

It doesn't quite work that way. Video games are played by a very large contingent of children. By and large, those children absolutely don't need to hear the type of language some adults tend to use. It's hardly 'open game' when you've got 10-12 year olds playing. Since these game systems are marketed to kids, and the companies know that kids play them, those companies are going to work very hard to make it acceptable to parents, or they'll lose a big part of the market. So they are motivated to try to keep the more immature folks in line.

That said, swearing is hardly necessary to have a good time, and I shudder at the mindset of people who think otherwise.

The game automatically comes with a language filter. If a kid is playing the game hes not going to see any of the words being used. All chat is also disabled by default, so they will only be able to see team chat. There is no voice chat, so that argument gets thrown out the window as well. Out of the box the game is setup pretty darn child proof.

 

[Jaskalas]

Toxicity in games is something that should be stamped out. Riot is desperately trying not to fall under the weight of both the damage toxicity causes, and the effort of combating it.

No one should be rooting for toxicity or opposing the effort to eliminate it.

 

[Spungo]

Wtf kind of team game has no voice chat...

The good ones. If people want to organize, they should get on vent. I find that putting voice directly in the game makes everyone a lot more annoying. The people who are older than 20 that I would actually want to talk to prefer typing because that's the old school way of doing it. It seems like 90% of the people using voice are 10 year olds.

 

[cronos]

The idea behind this thread is that the system is flawed. People are getting restricted for comments that are clearly not verbally abusive, more like constructive criticism. The system is automatic, there is no human interaction (apparently only on 14 day bans, still doubt it). So people can report you for not liking how you play, or what you said and the system will dish out punishments.

How do you know that the system is flawed? Because you didn't like what it does to you (and presumably people who think like you)? Based on the link to that forum thread (which I think is pretty funny, btw), I think not only the company is convinced that the system is working just fine, it showed that they got the outcome that is exactly what they wanted. That thread is basically like a vindication for them. It looks to me that they *wanted* to get rid of people who complained about bans and chat restrictions from their game, and it's most definitely their prerogative to do so. Whether it is the 'right' thing to do is besides the point. They got what they wanted, therefore the system is working fine.

Also once again, people keep using the word mature, and using their own personal opinion of what a mature person is and should do. I have my own definition as well and it suits my life. You guys can argue over what it means to you if you see fit. As far as I am concerned your definition and mine will never be the same. I could doubt your level of maturity by not being able to handle verbal abuse, but then you would argue that as well right?

People keep bringing up maturity because the premise of this thread is your claim that this game you're playing is now 'a child's game' because of the strict rules that apparently you dislike. Remember, your claim in the OP is that 'They might as well age restrict you to play the game now'. That's why, as the OP, your (JumBie's) interpretation of what is considered 'childish' and what is 'maturity' becomes relevant in this discussion. So don't complain about people keep using the word mature, you basically asked for it.

Having said that, you most definitely are welcome to doubt my level of maturity, based on whatever you want, and I'll try to convince you otherwise, but personally I have no intention to argue the definition of 'mature' with you or anyone else. In fact, in my previous post I specifically stated that those are how I see the situation in this thread, which means it's my personaltake on you and your situation. It's entirely possible that other people see it differently. I also mentioned that I can understand why you're feeling this way. I was once a kid as well, and I'm sure I've reacted immaturely to things I didn't like, plenty of times.

 

[RampantAndroid]

People always want to talk about following rules, but don't think about all the rules that are broken because they don't agree with them. It's all subjective. Those people were breaking rules. Just because you agree with why they were breaking them doesn't mean they weren't.

I know I've never told someone to go kill themselves, but I have been told that many times in the game. I'm still here. I'm guessing it wasn't a 30 year old person telling me that either.

I'm not sure I get the point you're trying to make with the rules comment. I'm not saying following the rules make you mature or immature.

No idea why you keep using the most extreme case of verbal abuse possible, which isn't even all that bad to be honest. You make it seem like every time you play an online game someone is telling you to kill yourself. Maturity is subjective, and rules will always be broken. In real life I don't follow the rules all the time, and I don't know anyone that does either If you want to live that way by all means go on ahead. I think I am quite mature, and I grew up in a different environment than you. If you don't like name calling in online games then mute or ignore those that do it. For those that don't mind that type of behavior then its open game for them.

Because I've seen things like that worst case. I've seen the absolute vitriol some people spew in LoL. It isn't pleasant or pretty. That fact that you: a.) think telling someone to off themselves is ok and b.) want to be able to post this kind of abuse towards other people has made me seriously doubt any maturity you claim to have. Mature people might yell at someone for trolling in LoL...but they'll also have build advice to give. They'll mostly just play the game and ignore the nonsense. Trolls will troll; people who don't play well either need advice or they won't improve. Sitting in chat swearing at them isn't going to get you anywhere at all.

Anandtech doesn't allow swearing and will ban you for it (unless you're in the pit known as P&N.) Are you complaining AT is a place for kids? I have two warnings - one is for swearing in a PC build thread. The other is for an insult in P&N (which I argued wasn't an insult, but whatever.) I've been on AT for 10 years now...and I manage to follow the rules. I don't think it's childish in here. I've long been an advocate of stronger rules in P&N.

It's *how* you're dealing with the in game restrictions that made us doubt your maturity (by creating this thread, ranting about how your ability to verbally abuse your opponents were squashed). As you pointed out, some people like cursing and as someone else also mentioned, this could be a valid strategy in a competitive game, but when the rules change that restrict this practice when you are considered excessively abusive, mature people would dial it down and adjust, or simply just leave the game. They don't go around and rant about it. They especially don't accuse games of being child-like when there's rules that they don't like. At least that's how I see it.

Now, I don't want to be age-ist, but you are a member of the 20-25 year old kids I mentioned above, right? If so, I can understand and I can say that I am really not surprised.

I don't think this ban system would have annoyed me when I was 20 even. I just didn't feel the need to insult people constantly. I don't think I trash talked at all in UT99 (I was in high school when it was in its heyday.)

 

[Cappuccino]

The good ones. If people want to organize, they should get on vent. I find that putting voice directly in the game makes everyone a lot more annoying. The people who are older than 20 that I would actually want to talk to prefer typing because that's the old school way of doing it. It seems like 90% of the people using voice are 10 year olds.

Nope. No 10 year olds. Mostly 13-15 year olds. Fuking kids I hate kids!
Voice chat would be the best feature in LoL. Raging voices... I love it.

 

[tential]

The good ones. If people want to organize, they should get on vent. I find that putting voice directly in the game makes everyone a lot more annoying. The people who are older than 20 that I would actually want to talk to prefer typing because that's the old school way of doing it. It seems like 90% of the people using voice are 10 year olds.

I guess counter strike isn't a good game then....

 

[ImpulsE69]

Voice chat only really works for premade teams in which case 'maturity' shouldn't be an issue. Even then if even 1 person on the team doesn't have it, it is useless because you still have to type and/or the person has no idea what your plan is.

 

[tential]

Voice chat only really works for premade teams in which case 'maturity' shouldn't be an issue. Even then if even 1 person on the team doesn't have it, it is useless because you still have to type and/or the person has no idea what your plan is.

It still helps if it gives you and another person better synergy. Duo queueing in lol voice chat helped.

 

[Spungo]

Voice chat only really works for premade teams in which case 'maturity' shouldn't be an issue. Even then if even 1 person on the team doesn't have it, it is useless because you still have to type and/or the person has no idea what your plan is.

CS hasn't been fun since 1.3

 

[JumBie]

How do you know that the system is flawed? Because you didn't like what it does to you (and presumably people who think like you)? Based on the link to that forum thread (which I think is pretty funny, btw), I think not only the company is convinced that the system is working just fine, it showed that they got the outcome that is exactly what they wanted. That thread is basically like a vindication for them. It looks to me that they *wanted* to get rid of people who complained about bans and chat restrictions from their game, and it's most definitely their prerogative to do so. Whether it is the 'right' thing to do is besides the point. They got what they wanted, therefore the system is working fine.



People keep bringing up maturity because the premise of this thread is your claim that this game you're playing is now 'a child's game' because of the strict rules that apparently you dislike. Remember, your claim in the OP is that 'They might as well age restrict you to play the game now'. That's why, as the OP, your (JumBie's) interpretation of what is considered 'childish' and what is 'maturity' becomes relevant in this discussion. So don't complain about people keep using the word mature, you basically asked for it.

Having said that, you most definitely are welcome to doubt my level of maturity, based on whatever you want, and I'll try to convince you otherwise, but personally I have no intention to argue the definition of 'mature' with you or anyone else. In fact, in my previous post I specifically stated that those are how I see the situation in this thread, which means it's my personaltake on you and your situation. It's entirely possible that other people see it differently. I also mentioned that I can understand why you're feeling this way. I was once a kid as well, and I'm sure I've reacted immaturely to things I didn't like, plenty of times.

Valid points, you got me there.