Leaving pc on

[IamTHEsnake]

P3 733Mhz
20Gb ata66 harddrive

Almost a constant 24/7 for 5 years... still running.

 

[JasonandBecky]

I turn mine off when I install new upgrades. Even then it pains me to have it off

 

[ribbon13]

Waiting for the day you can power down a single slot on the bus so you can have Hotswap PCIe/PCI-X???
That would kick ass

 

[montag451]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
Yes the MTBF of a raptor is 1.2 million hours.


...and they have proven this to be true using what method? Marketing hype sometimes sounds mysteriously like fact.


You fools - don't you know that they have been testing the very first Raptors since 1880. And those Beta models are still running well dammit

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
Waiting for the day you can power down a single slot on the bus so you can have Hotswap PCIe/PCI-X??? That would kick ass

What are you talking about? My friend's quad-Xeon (Slot-2) system has three hot-swappable 64-bit PCI slots. They already do exist. The board has a seperate memory-expansion board, it holds up to 16GB of registered DDR memory.

 

[Rami7007]

why is this discussion occuring?? I turn mine off EVERY time i leave it... well when i go to bed, not when i go downstairs for 4 hours.... but anyway i turn it off..... Some poeple leave it on always which is a waste of electricity even if its not too much money... some people do it one way and others do it another

The fact is that YES it will wear it down the more you turn it off so people who leave it on all the time think, "My pc is in such good health.... this is the way to do it..."
... Well what people dont realize is that your pc will last 10 - 15 years and so if you turn it off regurly and SAVE MONEY, it will only last 9 - 14 years... AWWWW what a shame, i lost one year of my PC's life.... PEOPLE DONT REALIZE that who in there right mind nowadays keeps a PC for 10 years and still uses it a lot!?!?!?!?!?

Also, say a PC will live for 8 years... I turn mine off when i go to sleep and when i am gone.... so mine is not on for the full 8 years.... after 8 years it has truly been on for about 5 years... So in the end although you wear it more from turning it on, by leaving it on it wears it and it balances out


DONT WORRY... IT DOESNT MATTER WHICH WAY YOU DO IT... YOUR PC WILL NOT JUST "DIE" ALL OF THE SUDDEN... It will be in the basement by the time its ready to die

 

[dds14u]

Originally posted by: Rami7007
Also, say a PC will live for 8 years... I turn mine off when i go to sleep and when i am gone.... so mine is not on for the full 8 years.... after 8 years it has truly been on for about 5 years... So in the end although you wear it more from turning it on, by leaving it on it wears it and it balances out
DONT WORRY... IT DOESNT MATTER WHICH WAY YOU DO IT... YOUR PC WILL NOT JUST "DIE" ALL OF THE SUDDEN... It will be in the basement by the time its ready to die

Good point good point. :beer: End usage will all be the same. But turning it off in this case has the pro of saving some electricity money. I personally think its safer when its turned off because then ur not actively connected to the net...ie opening urself to more opportunities for third parties to get into ur computer. Just a thought

 

[Terumo]

Considering my board or memory may have been damaged with 24/7 operation (run a non OC system), for now on I'm going to shut it down before going to bed. The P3s that's been handled that way, as still operational without incident.

YMMV, but looking at a second RMA is worse than a 30 second boot. :disgust:

 

[Amaroque]

Just out of curiosity, do you use a UPS?

Before this question is taken out of context, I'm not suggesting everyone go out and buy one either... :roll:

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Leaving pc on.... 24/7 to run DC projects that help scientific research and try to find everything from aliens to cures for cancers

Fixed that for ya

 

[Mem]

This topic comes up all the time,however I always turn mine off every night.I`ve been doing it this way for over 10 years now,never done any harm so really no point to leaving your PC on unless its doing something useful .

I`ve heard all the wear and tear arguments,and it works both ways,bottom line most users upgrade their parts within 2-3 years,so IMHO there`s no right or wrong,besides the on/off switch is there for a purpose.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Terumo
Considering my board or memory may have been damaged with 24/7 operation (run a non OC system), for now on I'm going to shut it down before going to bed. The P3s that's been handled that way, as still operational without incident. YMMV, but looking at a second RMA is worse than a 30 second boot. :disgust:

You have defective components. Properly functioning (and properly cooled!) ones are not damaged by continous operation.

Btw, what good is "always-on" internet, if you don't have an "always-on" computer at the ready to make use of it? Having to boot the computer every time, is just as bad as having to dial-up all of the time. That's my take on it anyways. But I'm building a second rig right now as a "download/file-server/remote-desktop" machine, that will stay always-on, and contain most of the HDs, and then I can leave my client machine off when I sleep. I guess the few times that it was turned off, I finally realized how loud my 4 case fans are in this cheap case of mine. So that one will get turned off, and lugged to LANs, with the main "home base" server staying on 24/7 instead, in another room. So I guess I see why people might turn their machines off at night, if they have to sleep in the same room with them. I guess I've mostly gotten used to the droning noise of the fans, sometimes I feel like without them, it's too quiet to sleep. This will be an experiment to see if I can adapt to the silence.

 

[Wolfshanze]

Your computer draws more power booting up than it does just running.

So if the bootup takes 30 seconds or a minute... and you use it for an hour then shutdown, how much power does that take compared to leaving it on for 24/7?

I am still in the firm belief a 30 second bootup uses less power then being on for 24 hours without a boot.

I normally have mine on all day and shutdown every night. I upgrade computers long before I see them blowup.

 

[Terumo]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
You have defective components. Properly functioning (and properly cooled!) ones are not damaged by continous operation.

Perhaps. But this is the first computer I have left on 24/7, and it's the first computer that's having motherboard problems. I've had 5 other computers for 8 years (and except for the Timex Sinclair and 486DX I don't have anymore), still work today. They have longevity because they weren't on 24/7.

And this non OC system is properly cooled with 7 80mm fans and an Alpha heatsink. I hate heat on components. If my RDRAM is hot after I turn it off, I find a way to keep it cool.

Btw, what good is "always-on" internet, if you don't have an "always-on" computer at the ready to make use of it? Having to boot the computer every time, is just as bad as having to dial-up all of the time.

No, it's get up turn on computer, goto the bathroom, clean up and it's on. Waiting 30 seconds isn't the end of the Earth, and it's only once a day. It's also how I'll notice if there's a hardware problem -- like a HDD failure (how I found out about the 160gig HDD dying).

That's my take on it anyways. But I'm building a second rig right now as a "download/file-server/remote-desktop" machine, that will stay always-on, and contain most of the HDs, and then I can leave my client machine off when I sleep. I guess the few times that it was turned off, I finally realized how loud my 4 case fans are in this cheap case of mine. So that one will get turned off, and lugged to LANs, with the main "home base" server staying on 24/7 instead, in another room. So I guess I see why people might turn their machines off at night, if they have to sleep in the same room with them. I guess I've mostly gotten used to the droning noise of the fans, sometimes I feel like without them, it's too quiet to sleep. This will be an experiment to see if I can adapt to the silence.

7 80mm fans and PSU is pretty loud even across the house. It's not as bad as it was with the Sanyos, but it still can be heard 15ft away. One gets used to it (I have), but family doesn't!

 

[Mem]

I am still in the firm belief a 30 second bootup uses less power then being on for 24 hours without a boot.

I normally have mine on all day and shutdown every night. I upgrade computers long before I see them blowup.

I agree,no way a PC that is on 24/7 can use less power then one that gets switched off every night.

How much power do you think a PC uses to bootup?...Wait let me plug mine into my spare nuclear pack .