Lebron James joining the Warriors after the playoff!!

tynopik

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sorry, my cousin's barber's friend's uncle assures me he's going with Chris Paul to San Antonio
 

tynopik

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some people have speculated about him going to the Lakers, but seriously, doesn't he just seem like a Spurs player?
 

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19587949/nba-playoffs-cavs-need-changes-title-contenders

The Cavaliers' near-perfect postseason -- a precision-like 12-1 romp through three Eastern Conference would-be contenders highlighted by an offensive efficiency through the opening rounds more explosive than even the best the Showtime Lakers ever mustered -- came to a crashing halt against the "juggernaut" known as the Golden State Warriors this week.

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the pressing question becomes: Where do the Cavs go from here?

ESPN.com polled more than 30 executives, coaches, scouts, agents and players from around the NBA to find options to answer that query.

"Pretty darn good team they have already," one Eastern Conference executive said.

"I don't really think they should do anything," a Western Conference exec said.

Then there is the other viewpoint out there that sees the Cavs as lagging so far behind the Warriors that anything less than a dramatic makeover this offseason would already be conceding the championship next year.

The thing is, the dramatic route almost seems like such a pipe dream that some can't even take it seriously. "Hire Tonya Harding's ex-husband," one West exec joked.

"Sign Kevin Durant," said a prominent agent, poking fun at the root of the problem in the first place. Another agent simply replied with a set of praying emoji hands when asked about the Cavs' plight.

While it's easy to see why the Cavs' pursuit of the Warriors triggers this sort of gallows humor -- they are chasing a 73-win team that added Kevin freaking Durant after all -- they do have some assets to play with.

"I would start with seeing what options there are for [Kevin] Love," an Eastern Conference coach said.

What would be the ideal option?

"I'd be targeting Paul George," said a 10-plus year NBA vet. "I don't know the match but I'd give up anything but LBJ and Kyrie to get him. Melo [Carmelo Anthony] and D-Wade [Dwyane Wade] do not solve the problems that they have with GSW." And who wouldn't want the 27-year-old George, who came back from a horrific leg injury to average 23.7 points, 6.6 rebounds and 3.3 assists last season for the Indiana Pacers?

The problem with Plan A is George isn't currently available, sources tell ESPN. Indiana and Cleveland could work out an extend and trade, but George would need assurances from James that the four-time MVP would be staying in Cleveland beyond 2017-18 -- which is the only remaining guaranteed year on his contract. This is a quagmire.

But he would be valuable because as much as Love brings the Cavs -- and he is having a fine Finals with 17 points, 13.7 rebounds, 2.7 steals and 1.0 blocks per game -- George is better suited to the pace of play that a Warriors series requires and the fast-twitch transition from defense to offense and back again.

Outside of the shoot-for-the-moon scenario with George, a consensus opinion shared often by many of the sources ESPN contacted was the need for more two-way players on the Cavs roster.

"Need to upgrade their 3-and-D role guys a bit," one source said. "I feel like they are on the verge of getting really old really fast."
 
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I don't watch NBA anymore because the "sport" is such a joke of acting and a lack of actual physical contact... but.... I do keep track of things and pray to the gods of basketball simply in hopes of LeBron losing. Bonus points if he loses all his wealth too.
 
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I hope he does. GSW will win every game by at least 30 points and show what a farce the NBA is.
 

Carson Dyle

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some people have speculated about him going to the Lakers, but seriously, doesn't he just seem like a Spurs player?

Anything but.

The Spurs, though, are in a bit of transition period after Duncan. I'm not sure they know who they want. Aldridge is a disaster, IMO. I thought he'd be perfect there, but I was wrong. It takes a certain kind of player to work in Pop's system. Much better if the Spurs can grow him from a seed, but they've had some good foreign players who fit.
 

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Anything but.

The Spurs, though, are in a bit of transition period after Duncan. I'm not sure they know who they want. Aldridge is a disaster, IMO. I thought he'd be perfect there, but I was wrong. It takes a certain kind of player to work in Pop's system. Much better if the Spurs can grow him from a seed, but they've had some good foreign players who fit.

Honestly should have kept Splitter or Boban. They delivered just about as much as Aldrige for way less $$. Keep the cheaper bigs, grow the younger/foreign talent.

That said, some of the fresh faces the Spurs have brought in look SUPER promising, if their final round of playoffs was any indication of their capabilities.
 

Red Storm

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Of course if you're the Cavs you try to match the super team, but I hope that fails. As a fan of the game I want to see more of the top level talent distributed across more teams. Super teams make for a boring playoffs, whereas many good teams within reach of each other means you get multiple fun matchups.
 

Carson Dyle

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The NBA needs address the situation of the so-called "super team". Players have become far too mobile. Something needs to give. I'm really surprised that all of the team owners who are perpetually getting drubbed allow it to continue. Of course, they just signed a new CBA that will last seven years, so it won't be happening any time soon.
 

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The NBA needs address the situation of the so-called "super team". Players have become far too mobile. Something needs to give. I'm really surprised that all of the team owners who are perpetually getting drubbed allow it to continue. Of course, they just signed a new CBA that will last seven years, so it won't be happening any time soon.

Super teams have been around forever. The '80s Celtics & Lakers, the '90s Pistons and Bulls, the 2000s Lakers and Spurs, early 2010s it was the Heat, and now it's Cleveland and Golden State.

You can still enjoy watching regular season games, there are lots of exciting up and coming stars like Embiid in Philly and Davis in NOLA. I think because guys like James, Durant, Curry, and Irving are so insanely good, it's easy to forget that other guys outside those two teams like DeRozan, Harden, Leonard, Westbrook, Thomas, and George, are near generational talents that are damn fun to watch, even if they won't compete for a championship.

And then when you get to the playoffs, it's boring until you get to the finals, which are so amazing it makes up for the rest of it.

I don't think we'll ever see two teams like Golden State and Cleveland battling in the Finals again. It's fun as hell and people should enjoy it.
 

Carson Dyle

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Super teams have been around forever. The '80s Celtics & Lakers, the '90s Pistons and Bulls, the 2000s Lakers and Spurs, early 2010s it was the Heat, and now it's Cleveland and Golden State.

Prior to the Heat, those teams were all built through the draft and trades, some free agency. Not because players themselves decided that it would be cool to form a team that could trounce 90% of those in the league.
 
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KMFJD

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Yeah the 88-90 Pistons where mostly home grown with 1 or 2 traded pieces...dunno where you're getting your info from...

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JEDIYoda

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Now the cav`s will sweep 4 straight from the warriors..lol
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Lebron for the WIN!!!!!
 

Blackjack200

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Prior to the Heat, those teams were all built through the draft and trades, some free agency. Not because players themselves decided that it would be cool to form a team that could trounce 90% of those in the league.

First off, that's not quite right. Players have long gone to teams that they wanted to, either through free agency or leverage. Look how Kobe and Shaq ended up in LA.

Second, why does that bother you? If LeBron thinks that playing with Wade and Bosch will make him more likely to succeed, why shouldn't he go somewhere with them? You think he should have just stayed in Cleveland carrying them to the occasional Finals with no real hope of ever winning?
 
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