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zinfamous

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LeBron is a simple case of tremendous talent and little discipline. It's too bad that at 26 James still hasn't realized that no matter how good he is, there are still many, many people around him he could listen to and be better for it.

I doubt we'll ever see anyone as great as Jordan again - ballers with roughly comparable talent (like James, or Kobe) will continue to go straight to the NBA after being Gods walking amongst mere mortals in high school, and never learn the discipline you get in the NCAA. Remove Dean Smith from Jordan's life and you're likely left with another great player, not the greatest to ever play the game.

yeah, that's exactly it. People seem to think I've been defending him, but it is absolutely a case of a guy that should be the absolute best, most dominate person in the league, could potentially, maybe, be better than Jordan--but he's simply an immature prick unwilling to put in the actual work.

He may still be the best, even with his attitude, but he could be so much more. It's sad, in a way. Not that I have any sympathy for the large child.


I watched the 30 on 30 show about Jordan's time with baseball last night. Holy Crap! All I remember is how dreadful he was in the regular season, but didn't know how by the final month, then in the AA fall league, he had increased his BA by 50 points up to .252. His number, in the end, weren't that bad. It only took him 5 months to learn how to hit the curve, lay off bad pitches, take advantage or hanging changeups and such.

The guy was simply amazing. The strike is what essentially sent him back to to the NBA (thank God), but most of those around him, including the White Sox scouts that had earlier dismissed him, saw Jordan at that point as becoming a truly successful player in MLB. craziness.

I'm pretty sure there will never be anyone like Jordan.
 

Blackjack200

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I watched the 30 on 30 show about Jordan's time with baseball last night. Holy Crap! All I remember is how dreadful he was in the regular season, but didn't know how by the final month, then in the AA fall league, he had increased his BA by 50 points up to .252. His number, in the end, weren't that bad. It only took him 5 months to learn how to hit the curve, lay off bad pitches, take advantage or hanging changeups and such.

The guy was simply amazing. The strike is what essentially sent him back to to the NBA (thank God), but most of those around him, including the White Sox scouts that had earlier dismissed him, saw Jordan at that point as becoming a truly successful player in MLB. craziness.

I'm pretty sure there will never be anyone like Jordan.

I saw that too (btw, was that a rerun, or was that the first time they showed that?)

I was a pretty young when that happened, and I also only remembered articles about him not being able to hit curveballs. After I watched the show I was really impressed. The guy was obviously just an unreal athlete.

BTW, I did not know that Terry Francona was his manager, how wild is that? Even as a Yankee fan I like Francona, just seems like a real good guy.
 

zinfamous

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I saw that too (btw, was that a rerun, or was that the first time they showed that?)

I was a pretty young when that happened, and I also only remembered articles about him not being able to hit curveballs. After I watched the show I was really impressed. The guy was obviously just an unreal athlete.

BTW, I did not know that Terry Francona was his manager, how wild is that? Even as a Yankee fan I like Francona, just seems like a real good guy.

yeah, I seem to remember when he first went to the BoSox, and they eventually won, people started mentioning how he was MJ's manager in Birmingham. heh, weird. That show reminded me of that.

I have no idea if i was a re run or not. I've stopped watching sports programming for the most part (the "journalism") because some 98% of it is just worthless fluff. That was a good show, though. Some of those are supposed to be pretty good, but my tolerance of ESPN is way low--I haven't been able to watch sportscenter in more than 5 years, haha. I still like Baseball tonight, though.
 

a123456

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LeBron is a simple case of tremendous talent and little discipline. It's too bad that at 26 James still hasn't realized that no matter how good he is, there are still many, many people around him he could listen to and be better for it.

I doubt we'll ever see anyone as great as Jordan again - ballers with roughly comparable talent (like James, or Kobe) will continue to go straight to the NBA after being Gods walking amongst mere mortals in high school, and never learn the discipline you get in the NCAA. Remove Dean Smith from Jordan's life and you're likely left with another great player, not the greatest to ever play the game.

I completely agree. James is one of the most athletic guys in the league. He has tons of talent but it seems like he's not living up to his full potential for whatever reasons, whether it's off the court stuff or not working hard on his weaknesses or mental problems or whatever it is.

James has been compared to Shaq, not in a good way. Shaq had a chance to be top 5 all time, but he didn't like to work hard. He did rap videos, movies, his sheriff stuff, etc. He showed up at the start of the season completely out of shape. There was one time he waited to get surgery until camp started next season instead right after the Finals because he wanted to get the surgery done "on company time" instead when he should have been relaxing. That meant missing unnecessary time during the season. Even with that, Shaq still managed to be top ~10 or so but he could have been so much more.

James feels like the same way. His upside potential is so high with his athleticism so we feel bad if he doesn't transcend to greatness. Right now, he's at a crossroads. He could just coast on his talents and end up maybe top 20 or even top 10. If he works hard, keeps his head down, keeps improving his game (low post moves, FT shooting, mental toughness, new inner circle, etc.), he could be so much better.
 

TheNinja

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ATOT discussing the something that is extremely hated and the thread blowing up?

CALL ME SHOCKED!!!

QueBert actually hit it on the head ... LBJ is screwed regardless. even if he wins people will hate on him so hard because "he couldnt do it on his own" when in reality, the way the NBA is now a days, NO team can win with only 1 star on the team, and he had absolutely no help in cleveland.

i didn't give a shit who won the finals because I had no stake in either team, but I was hoping Miami would win because I wanted to see what all of the haters would have come up with to hate on Lebron if he won. I mean him getting hated on now that they lost, that was painfully obvious what would be said. but i was extremely curious to see the reactions of the haters if he had won a ring...

It's not entirely true. I think people would love LeBron again if he showed some class and humility. James went from one of the most loved to the most hated stars in 1 summer. He should have come out and said, "sorry Cleveland, I tried my best but didn't get it done for you guys. I am a free agent now and decided that Miami is a place I need to go right now."

Then during the finals instead of mocking Dirk and basically saying all us "normal" people suck b/c we have to go back to our pathetic lives while he gets millions of dollars to play ball and get endoresements....he should have said "we just didn't pull through this year, we will get better and come back stronger next year and hope to win a title soon...congrats to Dallas"

He just surrounded himself with high school buddies and yes men so never really has a strong male role model to help him out. Everyone just told him how awesome and special he was for his entire life.

That being said, if he wins 3-4 rings and performs OK in those finals, people will forget all about this and claim how awesome he is.

For the record, I don't like the guy. I think he's an arrogant prick.
 

BrownShoes

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DUBAI -- Terror group al Qaeda appointed Lebron James as its new leader, Al Arabiya reported Thursday, and vowed to continue waging its war against the West.

 

Blackjack200

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What do the Sedin twins and Lebron James have in common?

Seriously, I can't think of anything... white twins from Scandanavia, black non-twin from Cleveland, hockey, basketball...

damn... there must be something???
 

Arik5405

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What do the Sedin twins and Lebron James have in common?

Seriously, I can't think of anything... white twins from Scandanavia, black non-twin from Cleveland, hockey, basketball...

damn... there must be something???

They're rich, famous, and probably live a life most people could only dream about? They do this simply by playing a game. Not sure, but this might cause some people to be jealous of them.
 

Blackjack200

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They're rich, famous, and probably live a life most people could only dream about? They do this simply by playing a game. Not sure, but this might cause some people to be jealous of them.

Yup, that must be it. Nothing else. :biggrin:
 
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