Legal blurays

[shortylickens]

Amazon is so nice. Anything thats not free is dirt cheap and you own it forever.

 

[darkewaffle]

I've never had any trouble watching a blu-ray at least, but I only have a few. I have had some issues when trying to rip some DVDs however.

 

[Harrod]

I was given a blue ray for christmas and then found out it wouldn't allow me to play it on my pc, I think it gave some kind of error about not being able to playback though a dvi connection and that I had to use hdmi or some crap like that.

I pretty much came to the same conclusion that I guess they expect people to jump through their hoops with the expectation that people will.

 

[shortylickens]

I was given a blue ray for christmas and then found out it wouldn't allow me to play it on my pc, I think it gave some kind of error about not being able to playback though a dvi connection and that I had to use hdmi or some crap like that.

I pretty much came to the same conclusion that I guess they expect people to jump through their hoops with the expectation that people will.

For pre-built: yes.

for those of use who make our own?
Oh fuck no!

 

[KeithTalent]

Weird, I own around 500 Blus and have never encountered this. :hmm:

KT

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Weird, I own around 500 Blus and have never encountered this. :hmm:

KT

Weird, I own around 0 Blus and have never encountered this. :hmm:

 

[wirednuts]

If you didn't jump through hoops, Buena Vista studios would go out of business, and their employees would be forced to move to a homeless camp by train yard. Do you really want that? You're probably a terrorist. Only a fuckin' jihadist would complain about a red-blooded, selfless American company, that provides jobs for so many of our neighbors, while asking for nothing but a few paltry cents in return.

totally agreed. those trailers put food in childrens mouths... and if they didnt show you anti-piracy warnings for 15 seconds they wouldnt be able to prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law. you think were playing around here? this is real life. people will die if these movies get shown as originally intended.

 

[lxskllr]

Weird, I own around 0 Blus and have never encountered this. :hmm:

Me neither. I'm not much into video, so it isn't an endorsement one way or the other. If music came with the same restrictions movies had I wouldn't buy a single thing. I'd download it all, and look into getting money to the artist some other way. Restricted formats with the feature of not working isn't in my best interest.

 

[Exterous]

Weird, I own around 500 Blus and have never encountered this. :hmm:

KT

The menus or problems with playback?

The menu thing is far more common among rented movies along with the blocking of special features in an attempt to get people to buy the movie

 

[wirednuts]

Me neither. I'm not much into video, so it isn't an endorsement one way or the other. If music came with the same restrictions movies had I wouldn't buy a single thing. I'd download it all, and look into getting money to the artist some other way. Restricted formats with the feature of not working isn't in my best interest.

i buy tickets to shows in advance, and if i dont go i dont really mind eating the money because the band gets more from that then they do if i buy their cd

 

[Aikouka]

The worst thing for me is unskippable trailers. Most companies don't really screw you over, and they allow you to either skip through them individually or by hitting a menu button.

i had no problem playing that movie in my ps3, along with many other 3d blu rays. and i have an old fat launch ps3.

sounds like user error all around.

Yeah. I'm guessing that he failed to setup his PS3 to play 3D content. It actually requires you to go through the Display setup again, and it isn't terribly obvious that you're doing it. The only way that you know it works is that it asks you for your screen size.

 

[KeithTalent]

The menus or problems with playback?

The menu thing is far more common among rented movies along with the blocking of special features in an attempt to get people to buy the movie

Neither. I watched a rented version of The Amazing Spider-man on the weekend and did not have any issues getting to the movie, but it also included all of the special features. Maybe the place I rent from does not buy those crippled copies.

KT

 

[CZroe]

I still prefer AnyDVD HD and a real BD on an HTPC to most anything pirated. This combination gives me full quality everything and removes prohibited user operations (can skip/fast-forward or jump to menu whenever I want). I can also make portable rips using any old free tool like Handbrake.

As part of the AVC HD specs, Blu-ray players are technically not even supposed to support full-bandwidth h264/VC9 from storage that isn't manufactured/pressed (they can check the disc type). Even though most do anyway, I want the other audio tracks and such that the scene usually throws out.

I was given a blue ray for christmas and then found out it wouldn't allow me to play it on my pc, I think it gave some kind of error about not being able to playback though a dvi connection and that I had to use hdmi or some crap like that.

I pretty much came to the same conclusion that I guess they expect people to jump through their hoops with the expectation that people will.

HDCP. Any monitor and video card since 2007 should support it. It isn't just a Blu-Ray thing (not the lack for letter e?). You need Vista or above with a fully HDCP-compliant pipeline from beginning to end for all kinds of copy-protected stuff, like Digital Cable in Media Center.

Hell, I remember when I couldn't watch a DVD with a desktop resolution over 800x600 when using DVI even though my TV was HDCP-compliant. Basically, Microsoft was deliberately blocking me from upscaling DVD on digital outputs because Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 didn't support HDCP (nothing newer at the time). I had to use analog Component cables to connect my HTPC if I wanted to watch standard definition DVDs.

 

[sactoking]

I have the same issue with DVDs. When we go to my wife's aunt's house my boy likes to watch Puss In Boots on DVD (even though we have it at home). At home I've ripped the main title to my media server and it starts up immediately; at the aunt's house it's on physical DVD media and we have to sit through 10 minutes of unskippable ads for Madagascar 3, How To Train Your Dragon Arena Show, and other assorted garbage.

 

[jman19]

Obligatory pic:

That's nice if you are using it to justify not buying movies.

It certainly isn't a justification for stealing them though.

 

[CZroe]

I have the same issue with DVDs. When we go to my wife's aunt's house my boy likes to watch Puss In Boots on DVD (even though we have it at home). At home I've ripped the main title to my media server and it starts up immediately; at the aunt's house it's on physical DVD media and we have to sit through 10 minutes of unskippable ads for Madagascar 3, How To Train Your Dragon Arena Show, and other assorted garbage.

Why haven't you burned a copy from your media server on a $0.10 disc?

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

I was given a blue ray for christmas and then found out it wouldn't allow me to play it on my pc, I think it gave some kind of error about not being able to playback though a dvi connection and that I had to use hdmi or some crap like that.

I pretty much came to the same conclusion that I guess they expect people to jump through their hoops with the expectation that people will.

You mean VGA, right? DVI has HDCP I'm pretty sure.

It makes for an interesting situation on my PC. I have a VGA monitor and a DVI monitor, and if I try to open the disk while PowerDVD is open on the VGA monitor it won't work, but it will work if it's open on the DVI monitor.

 

[CZroe]

Obligatory pic:

As I recall, the studio intros are integrated with an audio/visual transition into that movie, so it would probably have been in the pirate version too (hackish, poorly-cut, and awkwardly abrupt start to the movie otherwise).

Because it was likely to be included on the pirate copy just the same, the author was clearly stretching by even mentioning it. Oh, but then: trying to make those few more seconds appear to have made the difference between a flat soda and an empty popcorn tub? Beyond stretching it.

 

[CZroe]

You mean VGA, right? DVI has HDCP I'm pretty sure.

It makes for an interesting situation on my PC. I have a VGA monitor and a DVI monitor, and if I try to open the disk while PowerDVD is open on the VGA monitor it won't work, but it will work if it's open on the DVI monitor.

Not all DVI displays are HDCP-compliant. For example, my Dell Ultrasharp 2005FPW doesn't support HDCP but my Dell Ultrasharp 2007WFP does.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Not all DVI displays are HDCP-compliant. For example, my Dell Ultrasharp 2005FPW doesn't support HDCP but my Dell Ultrasharp 2007WFP does.

Wow, that sucks.

 

[CZroe]

Wow, that sucks.

Yep. It's funny though HDCP protections gives you the opposite problem with your VGA monitor than I had with DVI vs. component on Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005.

DVDs weren't allowed to display at over 800x600 on a digital output but it was, of course, allowed on VGA or component. "Analog hole," as they called it. In the HD world, we've made a complete 1080-degree turn-around and now the analog hole is blocked while the more-desirable digital interface has had the protection blown wide open.

As I recall, without HDCP, they were simply supposed to look for and obey the ICT (Image Constraint Token) flag and, if found enabled, output only 1/4th of the full resolution. This would happen on any analog output. Thanks to HD-DVD competition, some deal was struck at the last second so that the first several years of BD releases would have ICT turned off.

I guess Windows and PowerDVD don't want to bother down-rezzing or even checking ICT and would rather just block it entirely if it isn't HDCP through-and-through.

 

[sactoking]

Why haven't you burned a copy from your media server on a $0.10 disc?

The aunt's Panasonic won't play burned discs.

 

[CZroe]

The aunt's Panasonic won't play burned discs.

Use -R or set the +R book type to simulate a pressed disc. Big Lots has Verbatim -R AZO dye for $0.50 a disc right now.

I bet it would play Panasonic's preferred DVD-RAM format. I had hoped it was as simple as I implied.

 

[Ichinisan]

Use -R and set the book type to simulate a pressed disc. Big Lots has Verbatim -R AZO dye for $0.50 a disc right now.

I bet it would play Panasonic's preferred DVD-RAM format. I had hoped it was as simple as I implied.

I'm pretty sure the book type can only be set on + media.

 

[Markbnj]

Liberty or freedom. Pick one

Eh?