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ImpulsE69

Lifer
Jan 8, 2010
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I'm too lazy to rip these days when people have done it for me. I buy the movie, then I download the already packaged torrent ;p Since apparently it doesn't matter if you actually downloaded them or not, I figure if they want to go to war, I can send them a copy of my receipt postage due.
 

desura

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Mar 22, 2013
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I buy blu-rays.

They're really cheap now. Like, under $10.

Also, you get the *best* picture quality available and probably will be available for the rest of all time.

I like the reliability of having physical media.

Streaming services sometimes will garble due to the connection. It happens more often on HD content due to bandwidth.

My only issue with them is that like when I put a movie into the PS3, they force me to sit through 5-10 minutes of previews.

Yeah, I'm the RIAA/MPAA guy who's not employed by them, but genuinely believes their logic.
 

yinan

Golden Member
Jan 12, 2007
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I buy blu-rays.

They're really cheap now. Like, under $10.

Also, you get the *best* picture quality available and probably will be available for the rest of all time.

I like the reliability of having physical media.

Streaming services sometimes will garble due to the connection. It happens more often on HD content due to bandwidth.

My only issue with them is that like when I put a movie into the PS3, they force me to sit through 5-10 minutes of previews.

Yeah, I'm the RIAA/MPAA guy who's not employed by them, but genuinely believes their logic.

They have no logic. They want you to pay for every copy you want to watch. Already own the movie, but want to take it with you, sorry that will be another fee. Damaged/lost disc, sorry pay us again. Watch all their stupid crap at the beginning, sorry no choice.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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I remember getting a dvd player back in 2000 and being dismayed at how all the previews were completely unskippable and fast forward-able in any capacity any time I booted up the disc. It was then I realized the transition to digital from analog (VHS in this case) was not necessarily going to be pure gravy. Not even in modern times would I dare purchase a Disney DVD under any circumstances, and for that very reason. (besides the fact that you buy one version and a better one is out the next)
 
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I buy blu-rays.

They're really cheap now. Like, under $10.

Also, you get the *best* picture quality available and probably will be available for the rest of all time.

I like the reliability of having physical media.

Streaming services sometimes will garble due to the connection. It happens more often on HD content due to bandwidth.

My only issue with them is that like when I put a movie into the PS3, they force me to sit through 5-10 minutes of previews.

Yeah, I'm the RIAA/MPAA guy who's not employed by them, but genuinely believes their logic.
for now. you gonna repurchase them all in 4K, then 8K? Then whatever comes after that? This is why I don't buy (just rent or stream).
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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not sure what blu-rays you all are watching, but i've never seen 1 disc where you can't skip the previews. you may have to skip individual ones with the NEXT button for each one, instead of skipping the entire section, but you aren't forced to watch them like some of the on-demand shows like what Fox does.

this includes blurays i own and have rented from redbox.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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I remember getting a dvd player back in 2000 and being dismayed at how all the previews were completely unskippable and fast forward-able in any capacity any time I booted up the disc. It was then I realized the transition to digital from analog (VHS in this case) was not necessarily going to be pure gravy. Not even in modern times would I dare purchase a Disney DVD under any circumstances, and for that very reason. (besides the fact that you buy one version and a better one is out the next)

Disney DVDs have "FastPlay." You probably tried skip, FF, menu, etc...but you never tried pressing the Play button.

...and that's part of the problem. There's no standardization. Blu-Ray should have fixed this with mandates from the BD consortium. If it's supposed to be the format for real movie enthusiasts, the BD consortium needs to penalize BD producers for user-hostile practices.

[edit]
I'm actually not sure whether I described Disney FastPlay accurately.
 
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CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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I remember getting a dvd player back in 2000 and being dismayed at how all the previews were completely unskippable and fast forward-able in any capacity any time I booted up the disc. It was then I realized the transition to digital from analog (VHS in this case) was not necessarily going to be pure gravy. Not even in modern times would I dare purchase a Disney DVD under any circumstances, and for that very reason. (besides the fact that you buy one version and a better one is out the next)

LOL! You avoided titles from the one major studio that specifically promotes the feature you want for all of their discs!
 

Dedpuhl

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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The only things I've encountered that typically can't be skipped are the FBI and Interpol warnings. Other than that, all of my movies have allowed me to at least fast forward through previews. It goes by quickly on the PS3 @ x120.
 

leper84

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Dec 29, 2011
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Rent on Amazon. Watch on Netflix. F*ck everything else, I'm too old to screw with makemkv or skipping commercials when I already paid money to watch the damn thing in the first place.
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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I can see why people pirate. Tonight I tried to watch a legal copy of wreck it ralph 3d bluray and powerdvd wouldn't work without an update, so okay 10 minutes later update installed. Now it says it requires me to set a region for my bluray drive but I can't, it's grayed out and it says I have 0 changes left even though it's a new drive I bought off newegg.

So I try the PS3 with 4.x firmware which should support 3d blurays, the damn disc says the PS3 can't play it. So wtf? We end up watching a 3d version in mkv sbs format.. sigh.

Yep.... welcome to the dark side.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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The only things I've encountered that typically can't be skipped are the FBI and Interpol warnings. Other than that, all of my movies have allowed me to at least fast forward through previews. It goes by quickly on the PS3 @ x120.

I do not believe you. User prohibited operations are absolutely infuriating. Sometimes you can only skip with the Skip button, sometimes only with Top Menu, sometimes only with Play, sometimes only with FF...you never know until you try them all.

Here's the kicker. Sometimes I want to go BACKWARD to see something I missed in a preview, but THAT'S ALSO A PROHIBITED OPERATION! I've even seen Pause as a prohibited operation! Heads need to roll (figuratively) at these DVD/BD production companies.

Now this is even more infuriating...I've encountered some movies that have absolutely no way to skip the previews. I believe one example was a rental version of The Blind Side on Blu-Ray. On top of that, the previews were lower-than-standard-def and non-anamorphic (black borders on all sides). For some reason, I was forced to restart the disc over and over. Since experiencing that, now I'll want to kill myself if I ever see another trailer for a movie with Steve Irwin's kid in it. On top of that, the amount of forced trailers was far beyond reasonable. Then there was no option for subtitles. There were other examples of movies with absolutely no way to skip previews, but I don't remember which movies they were.

Every format is fucked.
 

Vic Vega

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Sep 24, 2010
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for now. you gonna repurchase them all in 4K, then 8K? Then whatever comes after that? This is why I don't buy (just rent or stream).

Honestly I don't want to see a lot of existing content in 4K - lots of stuff looks terrible in 1080p with the motion blur gone.
 

desura

Diamond Member
Mar 22, 2013
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I do not believe you. User prohibited operations are absolutely infuriating. Sometimes you can only skip with the Skip button, sometimes only with Top Menu, sometimes only with Play, sometimes only with FF...you never know until you try them all.

Here's the kicker. Sometimes I want to go BACKWARD to see something I missed in a preview, but THAT'S ALSO A PROHIBITED OPERATION! I've even seen Pause as a prohibited operation! Heads need to roll (figuratively) at these DVD/BD production companies.

Now this is even more infuriating...I've encountered some movies that have absolutely no way to skip the previews. I believe one example was a rental version of The Blind Side on Blu-Ray. On top of that, the previews were lower-than-standard-def and non-anamorphic (black borders on all sides). For some reason, I was forced to restart the disc over and over. Since experiencing that, now I'll want to kill myself if I ever see another trailer for a movie with Steve Irwin's kid in it. On top of that, the amount of forced trailers was far beyond reasonable. Then there was no option for subtitles. There were other examples of movies with absolutely no way to skip previews, but I don't remember which movies they were.

Every format is fucked.

Yeah, that makes no sense.

OTOH, when viewing blu-ray through VLC (you have to do some kinda complicated and annoying cracking of system files) you can skip right to the movie.

Is that only on the PS3 though? It is possible another player might allow you to skip.

I guess one more thing that annoys me about blu-ray is that the resolution tends to be 1920x800. Which isn't really that much better than 720p (which itself isn't full 720p but ends up being like 540). Like, I've found that I'd rather have the entire 16/9 space filled up than watch on some sidescreen because that's how classic movie tradition is done. Just optimize it for 16x9, or at least give me the option of full resolution 1920x1080

If you watch the Dark Knight blu-ray, the IMAX scenes are striking because they use the full HD resolution of 1920x1080, while the rest of the film goes to 1920x800 (and in Dark Knight Rises it goes to IMAX for scenes that don't matter and then is back to std for scenes that do matter...like vistas and chases).

Blu ray is probably the last disc format, and I don't see cable or fiber lines ever being good enough in my lifetime to stream/download a 4k movie. So for the forseeable future, it is the best video you can get.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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This is why I love Netflix...



Rent on Amazon. Watch on Netflix. F*ck everything else, I'm too old to screw with makemkv or skipping commercials when I already paid money to watch the damn thing in the first place.

I have both and enjoy both but selection is still small for recent movies. Plus movies come and go. Netflix is losing around 1800 movies tomorrow because of licensing expiring. It all basically sucks.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Rent on Amazon. Watch on Netflix. F*ck everything else, I'm too old to screw with makemkv or skipping commercials when I already paid money to watch the damn thing in the first place.

well if you don't like watching 1080p resolution with hd sound, then go for it.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Yeah, that makes no sense.

OTOH, when viewing blu-ray through VLC (you have to do some kinda complicated and annoying cracking of system files) you can skip right to the movie.

Is that only on the PS3 though? It is possible another player might allow you to skip.

I guess one more thing that annoys me about blu-ray is that the resolution tends to be 1920x800. Which isn't really that much better than 720p (which itself isn't full 720p but ends up being like 540). Like, I've found that I'd rather have the entire 16/9 space filled up than watch on some sidescreen because that's how classic movie tradition is done. Just optimize it for 16x9, or at least give me the option of full resolution 1920x1080

If you watch the Dark Knight blu-ray, the IMAX scenes are striking because they use the full HD resolution of 1920x1080, while the rest of the film goes to 1920x800 (and in Dark Knight Rises it goes to IMAX for scenes that don't matter and then is back to std for scenes that do matter...like vistas and chases).

Blu ray is probably the last disc format, and I don't see cable or fiber lines ever being good enough in my lifetime to stream/download a 4k movie. So for the forseeable future, it is the best video you can get.

it's still 1080p, just that a part of the image is taken up by black pixels. not really sure what you want them to do though. i'd much prefer the cinemascope image than a cropped 16:9 image.
 

desura

Diamond Member
Mar 22, 2013
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it's still 1080p, just that a part of the image is taken up by black pixels. not really sure what you want them to do though. i'd much prefer the cinemascope image than a cropped 16:9 image.

Not me.

Anyways, rarely does anything important happen in those regions. They don't really help at all with immersion in the film.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Yeah, that makes no sense.

OTOH, when viewing blu-ray through VLC (you have to do some kinda complicated and annoying cracking of system files) you can skip right to the movie.

Is that only on the PS3 though? It is possible another player might allow you to skip.
A standards-compliant player cannot ignore Prohibited User Operations. One reason is probably so that you can't claim that you never saw the FBI warnings and such before circumventing the protections. The other big one is, of course, to keep content producers happy to encourage their adoption of the format (they want the ads). Another is for animated menus and the like (it'd be a little weird to fast-forward a looping menu).

That said, AnyDVD HD removes Prohibited User Operations in real time for PC playback. If you rip and burn using their other utilities, you can remove them just as easily (automatic).
 
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Red Squirrel

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Reading about all of these issues makes me glad I don't buy DVDs/Blurays. I miss the good ol days of VHS, seems things were so much simpler then. The only complaint was when the last person did not rewind it, when renting. LOL
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Reading about all of these issues makes me glad I don't buy DVDs/Blurays. I miss the good ol days of VHS, seems things were so much simpler then. The only complaint was when the last person did not rewind it, when renting. LOL

Yup, degrading picture quality was awesome, as was the crappy sound.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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And that's why I use Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre.

1. Insert Blu-ray
2. Click icon next to play button
3. Click "Go to root menu"
4. Play movie.

Hell back in the VHS days you had to fast forward through everything, which could take minutes. It's actually much better now, but whiners gonna whine/pirate.
 
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