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Ns1

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I think it's stupid to debate about weed and work functionality when there's plenty of bankers who snort cocaine.
A fat, lazy and stupid stoner is like a fat, lazy and stupid alcoholic: a special case that doesn't justify bans.

Agreed

I think that saying "let's go for a beer" is different because you don't get drunk.
Saying "let's go smoke after work" is like saying "let's go get hammered" because it has a real effect. And that's something I'd not say.

Not agreed. Lots of people smoke and don't get stoned out of their minds. Just a few puffs to elevate their mood or to make dinner more delicious.

Also, I'm sure we all have our fair share of stories where "let's go get a drink after work" with coworkers ends up with them passed out on the ground in the restroom.

"Let's go get a drink after work" where I work DOES mean let's go get hammered.
 
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sze5003

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I agree it can be harmless. Most of the propaganda has been that its bad. For example we all know that now but say for others such as my parents that didn't grow up here in the US, they are always on my bro and sisters case about not hanging out with those type of kids and what not in school. I stay out of it as my family is hard headed and strict. Just not the type of environment I grew up in where it was thought of as harmless and just like alcohol.

I'm pretty sure if companies that didn't drug test, more people would use it. Almost every company I worked for that's the first thing they require. Personally, it doesn't bother me nor do I care what others do in their free time. Not going to lie, I tried it long time ago and I've never had the urge or necessity to say oh I need it or made it a habit.

I think there's been too many cases where it's been blown out of the water because of those that gave it a bad wrap. I mean people that would otherwise do stupid things without taking anything and those were the ones to be caught and form the attitude that people say it's "bad"
 

Newbian

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How long does it stay in your system that tests can still pick it up?

Other then companies firing you if you test positive I doubt it's a issue and as long as you don't go to work / drive while stoned I don't care.

Also is there some kind of breathalyzer for weed that cops are able to use as I would love to see that happen with some kind of limit if it's possible to test for like alcohol is?
 
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That is the most ignorant thing Ive have read all night. Both alcohol and weed are bad for you. The latter has the added drawback of making you stupid, fat, lazy and unmotivated. Lying also tends to be a problem. It makes you say stupid things like "weed is harmless".


jesus you're an idiot. and you're horrible at trolling.

loser.
 

sze5003

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I don't think they have a breathelizer for it. But Hell as more states may legalize it they probably will have such a device. The only time I've been tested was when first starting at my company. Who knows though, just don't make it an every day habit if you are afraid they will make everyone test randomly one day.

Most places are so large they wouldn't do that unless you were posting for a more secure position.
 

Wyndru

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In Colorado where it is legal, has anything changed there? Are there now pot stores where you can go in and purchase it? Are there people on every street corner selling pot? What has changed in the pot legal areas? Tell the people in the non-legal states what is now different?

I'm wondering the same thing. I thought because it is illegal under fed law that they still have the rights to raid and close shops when they do open, similar to what they were doing to the medical mj shops in cali.

My knowledge is limited to a couple of documentaries I have watched though, so I don't know what the real deal is.

But if this is the case, I can't imagine much will change at all.
 

sze5003

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They don't have shops yet where people would walk in and buy it yet. From articles I read about Washington state , people were smoking in public but there were no stores where they could purchase. Police have been told not to give citations for those smoking in public or if they had up to a certain amount on them. They were on the lookout for stoned drivers and those that could cause harm to others.
 

Ns1

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I'm wondering the same thing. I thought because it is illegal under fed law that they still have the rights to raid and close shops when they do open, similar to what they were doing to the medical mj shops in cali.

My knowledge is limited to a couple of documentaries I have watched though, so I don't know what the real deal is.

But if this is the case, I can't imagine much will change at all.

The real difference is people don't get shafted by local cops for smoking, meaning no BS marks on your record for shit
 

Wyndru

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They don't have shops yet where people would walk in and buy it yet. From articles I read about Washington state , people were smoking in public but there were no stores where they could purchase. Police have been told not to give citations for those smoking in public or if they had up to a certain amount on them. They were on the lookout for stoned drivers and those that could cause harm to others.

The real difference is people don't get shafted by local cops for smoking, meaning no BS marks on your record for shit

So you have to obtain it illegally, but it's legal to smoke in public? It's so strange. I really hope they just legalize it on the fed level. This whole situation is ridiculous.

Unless selling and buying is legal, but I can't imagine it is without taxing it somehow.
 

sze5003

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So you have to obtain it illegally, but it's legal to smoke in public? It's so strange. I really hope they just legalize it on the fed level. This whole situation is ridiculous.

Unless selling and buying is legal, but I can't imagine it is without taxing it somehow.

Yeah its weird. But I think now it's more lax. For example you can have up to an ounce or so and they won't do anything. Most people will say Its personal use either way in those states
 

Wyndru

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Do they have anything in the law about growing it for personal use? Is it still up to 1 ounce?

Sorry for all the questions. I really should read more about this haha. I don't smoke, I'm just curious.
 

xanis

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Do they have anything in the law about growing it for personal use? Is it still up to 1 ounce?

Sorry for all the questions. I really should read more about this haha. I don't smoke, I'm just curious.

IIRC you're allowed to grow a small amount for personal use under the law. I don't remember exactly how much it is, though.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Do they have anything in the law about growing it for personal use? Is it still up to 1 ounce?

Sorry for all the questions. I really should read more about this haha. I don't smoke, I'm just curious.

Norml.org

check it out, they are usually pretty up to date with information.
 

BUTCH1

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Do they have anything in the law about growing it for personal use? Is it still up to 1 ounce?

Sorry for all the questions. I really should read more about this haha. I don't smoke, I'm just curious.

Just allow any person who wants to grow hi/her own a 5 plant limit, make them buy a license once a year at $75 a pop, everybody wins..
 

sze5003

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Well they were saying they will establish guidelines for those to grow. Well technically it's not illegal to buy if it's legal to be walking around with an ounce or a bit more I think I read, in public. Who's to say who sold it to you ? If they can walk around with it in public it won't be hard for others to get it until they establish stores and regulations.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Just allow any person who wants to grow hi/her own a 5 plant limit, make them buy a license once a year at $75 a pop, everybody wins..

Is a license required to brew your own beer, or make your own wine? If not, then I don't agree with the license part.

I know you can only have so much DIY alcohol at once. My brother in laws were really into this for a while, 20 gallons or something?
 

OutHouse

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So now I see in the news Colorado and washington state will legalize pot. What I'm wondering is will companies still hire people for professional positions ? For example I don't think clients would want me coding fixes into their investments if I was a stoner. Just wondering what's going to happen. I'm not against it but it looks like there is a lot to consider.

hahahah do you have any idea how many IT people, developer people in Colorado who blaze up?
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
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Is a license required to brew your own beer, or make your own wine? If not, then I don't agree with the license part.

I know you can only have so much DIY alcohol at once. My brother in laws were really into this for a while, 20 gallons or something?

Well it's a "privilege" tax, not much, just enough to make it fiscally responsible..
 

sze5003

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hahahah do you have any idea how many IT people, developer people in Colorado who blaze up?

Well it wouldn't be permitted at least for the company I work at. Of course there are plenty in every state who do so.
 

OutHouse

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So you have to obtain it illegally, but it's legal to smoke in public?

colorado is full of MMJ shops. im pretty sure when the amendment finally does become law around the begging of Jan those MMJ shops will be open to the public. And No you can not smoke it in public in colorado.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
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Well it wouldn't be permitted at least for the company I work at. Of course there are plenty in every state who do so.

mine either since we have fed contracts BUT the only drug testing done here is when you are hired... i have not been drug tested in 14 years. along those lines my company has been silent on the whole issue. it would be nice to get some kind of official memo on what the companies position is on it.
 
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